Re: Tomcat Education

2003-07-29 Thread billfly3
Checkout these:
Mastering Tomcat Development - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/0471237647/qid=1059406030/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-1696458-0825767?
v=glances=books


 Hello all,
   I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
 good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
 and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
 Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with Tomcat.
 I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
 pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.
 
 Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!
 
 
 Ben Johnson
 Senior Software Developer
  
 Collect America, LTD.
 1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
 Denver, CO 80202
 [p]: 303.296.3345 x124
 
 
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RE: Tomcat Education

2003-07-29 Thread billfly3
Stick with XML.  Check Sun's web-site for JAX-B. Also, use Google to search for 
Castor and Zeus, both Java data binding products.
  There are several (about a half dozen) books available 
  for Struts right now.
 
 To be more specific, we're using Tomcat purely as a data marshalling layer
 to push database information to the client as either CSV or XML data.  I
 haven't worked with Struts before so I'm not sure if I still have a need for
 it as I'm only working with the Model and not the View.
 
 Also, we're working entirely with servlets so anything biased toward
 servlets would be preferred.
 
 
 Thanks!
 
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RE: Tomcat Education

2003-07-29 Thread Bill Fly
Pretty basic book with Tomcat installation process and examples.
Murach's Java Servlets and JSP
by Andrea Steelman, Joel Murach
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1890774189/ref%3Djranch-20/104-591952
7-8497538#product-details

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 There are several (about a half dozen) books available
 for Struts right now.

To be more specific, we're using Tomcat purely as a data marshalling layer
to push database information to the client as either CSV or XML data.  I
haven't worked with Struts before so I'm not sure if I still have a need for
it as I'm only working with the Model and not the View.

Also, we're working entirely with servlets so anything biased toward
servlets would be preferred.


Thanks!

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Tomcat Education Examples

2003-07-29 Thread Donald Duquaine
I understand that this list can be helpful to have our questions answered.
And, that
books seem not to be the most up todate means to acquire the most current
practices
and Tomcat (catalina) techniques.  I learn best by examples and I have been
a Tomcat
user for several years.  In all my google searching, I have not found a
robust template
example that has assisted me in creating my app.  I am having to code from
scratch.
I have started over several times because my design was flawed for one
reason or another,
but I am making headway.  My app is now in production. What I want most is
to be
part of a group that is focused on developing the end application.  Tomcat
is an important
part of this development and this 'app-group' would need to recognize
Tomcat's capabilities.
How many others need an 'app-group'? or examples?

Best Regards,

Donald Duquaine
Millennium Laboratories Inc.
(813) 925-3871 voice (813) 925-3872 fax
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Re: Tomcat Education Examples

2003-07-29 Thread Andrew Geery
I think what you're looking for is an application framework. There are 
a number of them at Apache:

Struts: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/index.html
Turbine: http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/index.html
Tapestry: http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/index.html
Cocoon: http://cocoon.apache.org/
Jetspeed: http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/index.html
All of the above projects have nice example templates.

Donald Duquaine wrote:

I understand that this list can be helpful to have our questions answered.
And, that
books seem not to be the most up todate means to acquire the most current
practices
and Tomcat (catalina) techniques.  I learn best by examples and I have been
a Tomcat
user for several years.  In all my google searching, I have not found a
robust template
example that has assisted me in creating my app.  I am having to code from
scratch.
I have started over several times because my design was flawed for one
reason or another,
but I am making headway.  My app is now in production. What I want most is
to be
part of a group that is focused on developing the end application.  Tomcat
is an important
part of this development and this 'app-group' would need to recognize
Tomcat's capabilities.
How many others need an 'app-group'? or examples?
Best Regards,

Donald Duquaine
Millennium Laboratories Inc.
(813) 925-3871 voice (813) 925-3872 fax
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mlabs-fl.com
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Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread Ben Johnson
Hello all,
I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with Tomcat.
I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.

Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!


Ben Johnson
Senior Software Developer
 
Collect America, LTD.
1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
Denver, CO 80202
[p]: 303.296.3345 x124


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Re: Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread Reginald Oake
Hello Ben.

There are several (about a half dozen) books available for Struts right
now. There is an O'Reilly book called Programming Jakarta Struts and a
book by Ted Husted (acknowledged struts guru) called Struts in Action.
Both of these should be readily available at your local computer book
store.

Reg

On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 09:11, Ben Johnson wrote:
 Hello all,
   I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
 good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
 and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
 Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with Tomcat.
 I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
 pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.
 
 Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!
 
 
 Ben Johnson
 Senior Software Developer
  
 Collect America, LTD.
 1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
 Denver, CO 80202
 [p]: 303.296.3345 x124
 
 
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RE: Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread Dmitry Sklyut
Check this out.  I haven't looked at it yet, but it looks good
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596003188/qid=1059405090/sr=8
-3/ref=sr_8_3/102-6148295-2460900?v=glances=booksn=507846

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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:09 AM
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Hello Ben.

There are several (about a half dozen) books available for Struts right
now. There is an O'Reilly book called Programming Jakarta Struts and a
book by Ted Husted (acknowledged struts guru) called Struts in Action.
Both of these should be readily available at your local computer book
store.

Reg

On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 09:11, Ben Johnson wrote:
 Hello all,
   I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
 good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
 and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
 Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with
Tomcat.
 I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
 pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.
 
 Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!
 
 
 Ben Johnson
 Senior Software Developer
  
 Collect America, LTD.
 1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
 Denver, CO 80202
 [p]: 303.296.3345 x124
 
 
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RE: Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread Scott Stewart
Wrox

Professional Apache Tomcat (covers 4.x)
Apache Tomcat Security Handbook
Professional Java Servlets 2.3

Wiley
-
Apache Tomcat Bible

Also, the tomcat site (http://jakart.apache.org/tomcat) is a good source of
info.  I have found that the best/fastest way to find your way to the doco
you need within this site is to use Google.

Thanks,

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From: Ben Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Tomcat Education


Hello all,
I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with Tomcat.
I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.

Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!


Ben Johnson
Senior Software Developer
 
Collect America, LTD.
1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
Denver, CO 80202
[p]: 303.296.3345 x124


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Re: Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread Eric J. Pinnell
The Professional Apache Tomcat book is a good foundation how Tomcat works
but it is intended for more of a sys-admin type than a developer.  I
thought it was pretty good on that aspect.  Not many books cater to the
poor admins who could really care less about the inner workings of
someones tag library.

Various servlet and Struts books can help you with the java.

This list is a good place to learn.  It is the only source you will find
that is up to date.  By the time somebody gets around to writing a book
and it gets published it's already out of date.

-e

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Ben Johnson wrote:

 Hello all,
   I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
 good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
 and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
 Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with Tomcat.
 I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
 pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.

 Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!


 Ben Johnson
 Senior Software Developer
  
 Collect America, LTD.
 1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
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 [p]: 303.296.3345 x124


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RE: Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread Ben Johnson
 There are several (about a half dozen) books available 
 for Struts right now.

To be more specific, we're using Tomcat purely as a data marshalling layer
to push database information to the client as either CSV or XML data.  I
haven't worked with Struts before so I'm not sure if I still have a need for
it as I'm only working with the Model and not the View.

Also, we're working entirely with servlets so anything biased toward
servlets would be preferred.


Thanks!

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Re: Tomcat Education

2003-07-28 Thread John Turner
The Wrox book covers Tomcat 4.  I know this because I have a copy of it. 
 It's actually a pretty decent resource.

Someone sent me a copy of Mastering Tomcat Development, which looks 
pretty good from my brief skimming.

I think perhaps you should clarify what you mean by integrating with 
Tomcat.  The only thing I know of that causes difficulty with any of 
the number of servlet books out there is that the books typically use 
the Invoker servlet which has been disabled by default in Tomcat 4 for 
months (but is easily enabled if you must use it although it isn't 
recommended).  The Invoker servlet issue is clearly covered in the 
Tomcat FAQ, which is here:  http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq.

There's the Application Development Guide:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/index.html
There's the ClassLoader HOWTO, which will come in handy when you write 
your own classes and you want to know where to put them and why:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/class-loader-howto.html

And the configuration reference:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/config/index.html
You will save yourself a ton of time, effort, and grief if, when you 
experience a problem and can't solve it after a bit of time, you post 
here to the list.  You'll usually get an answer promptly, typically 
within an hour or so.

So, if you want to start another thread about your admin tool question, 
I'm pretty confident you will get an answer promptly, assuming your 
question is clearly worded and your post has specific information in it 
describing what you are trying to do.

John

Ben Johnson wrote:

Hello all,
I'm new to the Tomcat world and I'm desperately trying to find some
good resources to learn from.  I bought Professional Apache Tomcat (Wrox)
and it's decent but it's for version 3.0 or something.  I also have a
Servlet book from O'Reilly but it doesn't help when integrating with Tomcat.
I've spent an inordinate number of hours just trying to figure out how to
pull DataSources using the admin tool and I still haven't figured it out.
Anybody have any resource or book ideas?  Thanks!

Ben Johnson
Senior Software Developer
 
Collect America, LTD.
1999 Broadway, Suite 2150
Denver, CO 80202
[p]: 303.296.3345 x124

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