RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-07 Thread Martin Cooper



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 From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:52 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: tomcat v. resin
 
 
 Resin is, I think, noticeably faster in my limited 
 experience.  But, Resin 
 has serious features restrictions for me.

What sort of serious feature restrictions? Are they Servlet / JSP related,
or related to Resin-specific functionality?

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 At 05:30 PM 9/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat? 
   I've heard
 that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it 
 ... always
 Tomcat if they want something free.
 
 Thanks.
 Neal
 
 
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Re: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-07 Thread Dionisio Ruiz de Zarate

i am usin tomcat and resin.
my opinion, only my opinion, is thar resins is faster and easy for configure
than tomcat. this with the old versions.
but i have see the tomcat 4.1.10 and tomcat is more fast.

but i can say that is, resin, more easy for configure.
Else i have see that there is some thigs, jsp pages, that runs well with
resin and whit tomcat not, tomcat produce exceptions, bugs?



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From: neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:30 AM
Subject: tomcat v. resin


 Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?   I've heard
 that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it ... always
 Tomcat if they want something free.

 Thanks.
 Neal


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tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread neal

Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?   I've heard
that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it ... always
Tomcat if they want something free.

Thanks.
Neal


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RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper

Well, you're asking this on the tomcat-user list, so you'll primarily find
Tomcat users here... ;-)

Actually, I use Resin most of the time, including in production. It *is*
very fast, but I don't honestly know how it compares to Tomcat 4.1.10. It
used to beat the pants off earlier versions of Tomcat, though. Resin is also
a breeze to install and configure, but again, I believe Tomcat has made
progress in that direction with 4.1.10.

One nice thing about the latest version of Resin (2.1.4) is that it has a
built-in fast implementation of JSTL. That can be disabled if you want to
use the RI, but so far I've never had to.

Some people use Resin for its features over and above the usual Servlet /
JSP stuff. For example, it has its own alternative syntaxes, XML template
system, and the ability to use JavaScript as the scripting language in JSP
pages, instead of Java. Of course, then you're tied to Resin.

You might want to ask this question on the resin-interest list to see what
kind of responses you get from the Resin side of the house.

--
Martin Cooper


 -Original Message-
 From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:30 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: tomcat v. resin
 
 
 Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?  
  I've heard
 that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it 
 ... always
 Tomcat if they want something free.
 
 Thanks.
 Neal
 
 
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RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread neal

Yeah true. I know I'll find mostly tomcat fans on the tomcat list.

Still, practically every book and every person I know working with
openSource is using Tomcat. And, every site that I've run across that has a
JSP error ... is apparently Tomcat too.  ;-) So it seems like a huge user
base.  On the flip side, many have never even heard of Resin.  Yet, some of
the benchmarks I saw a little less than a year ago, Resin looked like the
sweetest thingout there - free or not.  Very strangs though that it seemed
to have a small following.


Neal


-Original Message-
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:42 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin


Well, you're asking this on the tomcat-user list, so you'll primarily find
Tomcat users here... ;-)

Actually, I use Resin most of the time, including in production. It *is*
very fast, but I don't honestly know how it compares to Tomcat 4.1.10. It
used to beat the pants off earlier versions of Tomcat, though. Resin is also
a breeze to install and configure, but again, I believe Tomcat has made
progress in that direction with 4.1.10.

One nice thing about the latest version of Resin (2.1.4) is that it has a
built-in fast implementation of JSTL. That can be disabled if you want to
use the RI, but so far I've never had to.

Some people use Resin for its features over and above the usual Servlet /
JSP stuff. For example, it has its own alternative syntaxes, XML template
system, and the ability to use JavaScript as the scripting language in JSP
pages, instead of Java. Of course, then you're tied to Resin.

You might want to ask this question on the resin-interest list to see what
kind of responses you get from the Resin side of the house.

--
Martin Cooper


 -Original Message-
 From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:30 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: tomcat v. resin


 Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?
  I've heard
 that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it
 ... always
 Tomcat if they want something free.

 Thanks.
 Neal


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Re: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread micael

Resin is, I think, noticeably faster in my limited experience.  But, Resin 
has serious features restrictions for me.

At 05:30 PM 9/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?   I've heard
that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it ... always
Tomcat if they want something free.

Thanks.
Neal


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RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread micael

I have had absolutely no problems with Tomcat causing errors.  Again, Resin 
has features limitations.

At 08:28 PM 9/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Yeah true. I know I'll find mostly tomcat fans on the tomcat list.

Still, practically every book and every person I know working with
openSource is using Tomcat. And, every site that I've run across that has a
JSP error ... is apparently Tomcat too.  ;-) So it seems like a huge user
base.  On the flip side, many have never even heard of Resin.  Yet, some of
the benchmarks I saw a little less than a year ago, Resin looked like the
sweetest thingout there - free or not.  Very strangs though that it seemed
to have a small following.


Neal


-Original Message-
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:42 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin


Well, you're asking this on the tomcat-user list, so you'll primarily find
Tomcat users here... ;-)

Actually, I use Resin most of the time, including in production. It *is*
very fast, but I don't honestly know how it compares to Tomcat 4.1.10. It
used to beat the pants off earlier versions of Tomcat, though. Resin is also
a breeze to install and configure, but again, I believe Tomcat has made
progress in that direction with 4.1.10.

One nice thing about the latest version of Resin (2.1.4) is that it has a
built-in fast implementation of JSTL. That can be disabled if you want to
use the RI, but so far I've never had to.

Some people use Resin for its features over and above the usual Servlet /
JSP stuff. For example, it has its own alternative syntaxes, XML template
system, and the ability to use JavaScript as the scripting language in JSP
pages, instead of Java. Of course, then you're tied to Resin.

You might want to ask this question on the resin-interest list to see what
kind of responses you get from the Resin side of the house.

--
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  From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:30 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: tomcat v. resin
 
 
  Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?
   I've heard
  that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it
  ... always
  Tomcat if they want something free.
 
  Thanks.
  Neal
 
 
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RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread neal

Oh, that wasn't to say that Tomcat caused errors ... I mean people's
scripting errors.  404s and the like.  It tells which http/app server you're
using.

:)


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From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:56 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin


I have had absolutely no problems with Tomcat causing errors.  Again, Resin
has features limitations.

At 08:28 PM 9/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Yeah true. I know I'll find mostly tomcat fans on the tomcat list.

Still, practically every book and every person I know working with
openSource is using Tomcat. And, every site that I've run across that has a
JSP error ... is apparently Tomcat too.  ;-) So it seems like a huge user
base.  On the flip side, many have never even heard of Resin.  Yet, some of
the benchmarks I saw a little less than a year ago, Resin looked like the
sweetest thingout there - free or not.  Very strangs though that it seemed
to have a small following.


Neal


-Original Message-
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:42 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin


Well, you're asking this on the tomcat-user list, so you'll primarily find
Tomcat users here... ;-)

Actually, I use Resin most of the time, including in production. It *is*
very fast, but I don't honestly know how it compares to Tomcat 4.1.10. It
used to beat the pants off earlier versions of Tomcat, though. Resin is
also
a breeze to install and configure, but again, I believe Tomcat has made
progress in that direction with 4.1.10.

One nice thing about the latest version of Resin (2.1.4) is that it has a
built-in fast implementation of JSTL. That can be disabled if you want to
use the RI, but so far I've never had to.

Some people use Resin for its features over and above the usual Servlet /
JSP stuff. For example, it has its own alternative syntaxes, XML template
system, and the ability to use JavaScript as the scripting language in JSP
pages, instead of Java. Of course, then you're tied to Resin.

You might want to ask this question on the resin-interest list to see what
kind of responses you get from the Resin side of the house.

--
Martin Cooper


  -Original Message-
  From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:30 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: tomcat v. resin
 
 
  Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?
   I've heard
  that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it
  ... always
  Tomcat if they want something free.
 
  Thanks.
  Neal
 
 
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RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread micael

I see.  Okay dokay.  Misunderstood.  Would not count on people that have 
those errors.. (I AM KIDDING!) ///;-)

At 10:58 PM 9/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Oh, that wasn't to say that Tomcat caused errors ... I mean people's
scripting errors.  404s and the like.  It tells which http/app server you're
using.

:)


-Original Message-
From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:56 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin


I have had absolutely no problems with Tomcat causing errors.  Again, Resin
has features limitations.

At 08:28 PM 9/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 Yeah true. I know I'll find mostly tomcat fans on the tomcat list.
 
 Still, practically every book and every person I know working with
 openSource is using Tomcat. And, every site that I've run across that has a
 JSP error ... is apparently Tomcat too.  ;-) So it seems like a huge user
 base.  On the flip side, many have never even heard of Resin.  Yet, some of
 the benchmarks I saw a little less than a year ago, Resin looked like the
 sweetest thingout there - free or not.  Very strangs though that it seemed
 to have a small following.
 
 
 Neal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:42 PM
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin
 
 
 Well, you're asking this on the tomcat-user list, so you'll primarily find
 Tomcat users here... ;-)
 
 Actually, I use Resin most of the time, including in production. It *is*
 very fast, but I don't honestly know how it compares to Tomcat 4.1.10. It
 used to beat the pants off earlier versions of Tomcat, though. Resin is
also
 a breeze to install and configure, but again, I believe Tomcat has made
 progress in that direction with 4.1.10.
 
 One nice thing about the latest version of Resin (2.1.4) is that it has a
 built-in fast implementation of JSTL. That can be disabled if you want to
 use the RI, but so far I've never had to.
 
 Some people use Resin for its features over and above the usual Servlet /
 JSP stuff. For example, it has its own alternative syntaxes, XML template
 system, and the ability to use JavaScript as the scripting language in JSP
 pages, instead of Java. Of course, then you're tied to Resin.
 
 You might want to ask this question on the resin-interest list to see what
 kind of responses you get from the Resin side of the house.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:30 PM
   To: Tomcat Users List
   Subject: tomcat v. resin
  
  
   Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?
I've heard
   that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it
   ... always
   Tomcat if they want something free.
  
   Thanks.
   Neal
  
  
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RE: tomcat v. resin

2002-09-06 Thread Martin Cooper



 -Original Message-
 From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:28 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin
 
 
 Yeah true. I know I'll find mostly tomcat fans on the tomcat list.
 
 Still, practically every book and every person I know working with
 openSource is using Tomcat. And, every site that I've run 
 across that has a
 JSP error ... is apparently Tomcat too.  ;-) So it seems like 
 a huge user
 base.  On the flip side, many have never even heard of Resin. 
  Yet, some of
 the benchmarks I saw a little less than a year ago, Resin 
 looked like the
 sweetest thingout there - free or not.  Very strangs though 
 that it seemed
 to have a small following.

Actually, Resin has a huge following. Just take a look at the archives for
the resin-interest mailing list, or sign up to the list to see for yourself.

One of the reasons you see Tomcat everywhere is because it's the Reference
Implementation (RI) for Servlets and JSP. That doesn't mean it's the best
implementation, only that it represents the standard.

Many people and/or organisations are reluctant to place their bets on
anything other than the standard implementation, so they'll reject Resin
for no other reason than because it's not the standard.

Sad but true...

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 Neal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:42 PM
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: RE: tomcat v. resin
 
 
 Well, you're asking this on the tomcat-user list, so you'll 
 primarily find
 Tomcat users here... ;-)
 
 Actually, I use Resin most of the time, including in 
 production. It *is*
 very fast, but I don't honestly know how it compares to 
 Tomcat 4.1.10. It
 used to beat the pants off earlier versions of Tomcat, 
 though. Resin is also
 a breeze to install and configure, but again, I believe 
 Tomcat has made
 progress in that direction with 4.1.10.
 
 One nice thing about the latest version of Resin (2.1.4) is 
 that it has a
 built-in fast implementation of JSTL. That can be disabled if 
 you want to
 use the RI, but so far I've never had to.
 
 Some people use Resin for its features over and above the 
 usual Servlet /
 JSP stuff. For example, it has its own alternative syntaxes, 
 XML template
 system, and the ability to use JavaScript as the scripting 
 language in JSP
 pages, instead of Java. Of course, then you're tied to Resin.
 
 You might want to ask this question on the resin-interest 
 list to see what
 kind of responses you get from the Resin side of the house.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
 
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  From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:30 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: tomcat v. resin
 
 
  Hey does anyone here have an opinion on Resin versus Tomcat?
   I've heard
  that Resin is screaming fast but I never see anyone using it
  ... always
  Tomcat if they want something free.
 
  Thanks.
  Neal
 
 
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Tomcat v Resin

2001-08-29 Thread Vinay Menon

Hello,
Has anyone tried benchmarking Tomcat vs Resin as a web container? =
Any views/thoughts/suggestions?

Many thanks

Vinay




Tomcat v Resin

2001-07-01 Thread Vinay Menon

Hello Folks,
Anyone here tried Resin? Was wondering if anyone has experience using
Resin and would like to share its pros and cons wrt Tomcat.

Thanks in advance

Vinay




Re: Tomcat v Resin

2001-07-01 Thread webmaster

i am working wiht tomcat and resin, both in combinatin with apache
I'll use all my applicacions with resin + apache
is fastes, no bugs ...

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From: Vinay Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat User [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: Tomcat v Resin


 Hello Folks,
 Anyone here tried Resin? Was wondering if anyone has experience using
 Resin and would like to share its pros and cons wrt Tomcat.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Vinay