Re: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:58:59 EDT "Lyle H. Ward" wrote: Not that it is any help, but! I use IE over the net to several secure sites (mostly financial) and see this same behavior. I think it is in the IE code and outside of maybe obtaining the IE source, there isn't any cure. We also suffer from this behavior -- without any real idea how to get around it. Especially "multipart/form-data" forms show this error most times at the first try of submitting (ususally going back and retrying submit does the job -- interesting, isn't it?) However it seems to me that the known problem with IE+keepalive can be seen at some(?) versions of IE5.0, thus I'm trying: BrowserMatch "MSIE 5\.0" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0 Definitly the failure on 301/302 redirector requests vanished, I also does not get a negative feedback on the "This page cannot be accessed..." problem since I've changed this settings. Sadly, as the behavior described by Kresmir is non-deterministic this may also be a false guess ... hth, -martin
Re: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests
Not that it is any help, but! I use IE over the net to several secure sites (mostly financial) and see this same behavior. I think it is in the IE code and outside of maybe obtaining the IE source, there isn't any cure. At 08:11 PM 4/4/2001 -0400, you wrote: looks like no-one wants to tackle this question... anyway, does anyone know any good consultants that work with jakarta-tomcat and apache - where additional help (even for a fee) could be asked. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kresimir (Binsco) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests Hi, I have already posted this quesion, but maybe I have not given enough detail. Please help as this is getting very frustrating. Ok, this is the problem briefly: Very randomly when we try to submit the request to tomcat (that is working with apache) we get the error message from the browser: "This page cannot be accesses... etc..." If we try to re-submit the request just few seconds after, clicking the same submit button ... it will work. Sometimes it will work first time too. Actually it will reject request maybe one out of three times, the slower the connection (I think) the more likely rejection is. Ok, these are the details. The application is a shopping cart and when user is submitting items to the cart, there is no problems. In this case we submit to regular http (not secure), and in the request there is only couple of values. After that, there is a page with the credit card and order information with about 20 or so fields, now this is https protocol we submit to. This is when the problem occurs, this page with 20 or so values, and using https will reject randomly. If you try to submit again once you were rejected, it will go through... This does not happen with netscape at ALL, but with Internet Explorer only. The .jsp that request is submitted to reads those 20 properties into the bean, using property * Also, if we run tomcat only, locally (without apache), so if we submit to localhost:8080, this will not happen. This happens only when we submit over the net using apache, but then again we do not use https when using localhost. Please help, any info is EXTREMELY appreciate as we've been poking around for weeks now. If you need more information or the url to the actual application please let us know. Thank you. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR/HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVFONT size=2looks like no-one wants to tackle this question.../FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2anyway, does anyone know any good consultants that work with jakarta-tomcat and/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2apache - where additional help (even for a fee) could be asked./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Thank you./FONT/DIV BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #00 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" DIVFONT face=Arial size=2B-Original Message-/BBRBFrom: /BKresimir (Binsco) lt;A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;BRBTo: /BA href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A lt;A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] /Agt;BRBDate: /BWednesday, April 04, 2001 2:18 PMBRBSubject: /Btomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requestsBRBR/DIV/FONT DIV DIVFONT size=2Hi,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2I have already posted this quesion, but maybe I have not given enough detail./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2Please help as this is getting very frustrating./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Ok, this is the problem briefly:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Very randomly when we try to submit the request to tomcat (that is working with/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2apache) we get the error message from the browser: "This page cannot be accesses... etc..."/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2If we try to re-submit the request just few seconds after, clicking the same submit/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2button ... it will work./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2Sometimes it will work first time too. Actually it will reject request maybe one out of/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2three times, the slower the connection (I think) the more likely rejection is./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Ok, these are the details./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2The application is a shopping cart and when user is submitting items to the cart, there is no/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2problems. In this case we submit to regular http (not secure), and in the reque
RE: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests
Kresimir, You may want to analyse what network traffic originating from the browser, just watch the TCP data that IE sends to the server, if the request is the same the problem is most likely on the server, otherwise the browser may be trying to 'intelligently' ( read: brain dead ) cache and this might be causing the problem. -Original Message- From: Lyle H. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests Not that it is any help, but! I use IE over the net to several secure sites (mostly financial) and see this same behavior. I think it is in the IE code and outside of maybe obtaining the IE source, there isn't any cure. At 08:11 PM 4/4/2001 -0400, you wrote: looks like no-one wants to tackle this question... anyway, does anyone know any good consultants that work with jakarta-tomcat and apache - where additional help (even for a fee) could be asked. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Kresimir (Binsco) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests Hi, I have already posted this quesion, but maybe I have not given enough detail. Please help as this is getting very frustrating. Ok, this is the problem briefly: Very randomly when we try to submit the request to tomcat (that is working with apache) we get the error message from the browser: "This page cannot be accesses... etc..." If we try to re-submit the request just few seconds after, clicking the same submit button ... it will work. Sometimes it will work first time too. Actually it will reject request maybe one out of three times, the slower the connection (I think) the more likely rejection is. Ok, these are the details. The application is a shopping cart and when user is submitting items to the cart, there is no problems. In this case we submit to regular http (not secure), and in the request there is only couple of values. After that, there is a page with the credit card and order information with about 20 or so fields, now this is https protocol we submit to. This is when the problem occurs, this page with 20 or so values, and using https will reject randomly. If you try to submit again once you were rejected, it will go through... This does not happen with netscape at ALL, but with Internet Explorer only. The .jsp that request is submitted to reads those 20 properties into the bean, using property * Also, if we run tomcat only, locally (without apache), so if we submit to localhost:8080, this will not happen. This happens only when we submit over the net using apache, but then again we do not use https when using localhost. Please help, any info is EXTREMELY appreciate as we've been poking around for weeks now. If you need more information or the url to the actual application please let us know. Thank you. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR/HEAD BODY bgColor=#ff DIVFONT size=2looks like no-one wants to tackle this question.../FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2anyway, does anyone know any good consultants that work with jakarta-tomcat and/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2apache - where additional help (even for a fee) could be asked./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Thank you./FONT/DIV BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #00 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" DIVFONT face=Arial size=2B-Original Message-/BBRBFrom: /BKresimir (Binsco) lt;A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;BRBTo: /BA href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A lt;A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] /Agt;BRBDate: /BWednesday, April 04, 2001 2:18 PMBRBSubject: /Btomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requestsBRBR/DIV/FONT DIV DIVFONT size=2Hi,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2I have already posted this quesion, but maybe I have not given enough detail./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2Please help as this is getting very frustrating./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Ok, this is the problem briefly:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=2Very randomly when we try to submit the request to tomcat (that is working with/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2apache) we get the error message from the browser: "This page cannot be accesses... etc..."/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2If we try to re-submit the request just few seconds after, clicking the same submit/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2button ... it will work./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=2Sometimes
tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests
Hi, I have already posted this quesion, but maybe I have not given enough detail. Please help as this is getting very frustrating. Ok, this is the problem briefly: Very randomly when we try to submit the request to tomcat (that is working with apache) we get the error message from the browser: "This page cannot be accesses... etc..." If we try to re-submit the request just few seconds after, clicking the same submit button ... it will work. Sometimes it will work first time too. Actually it will reject request maybe one out of three times, the slower the connection (I think) the more likely rejection is. Ok, these are the details. The application is a shopping cart and when user is submitting items to the cart, there is no problems. In this case we submit to regular http (not secure), and in the request there is only couple of values. After that, there is a page with the credit card and order information with about 20 or so fields, now this is https protocol we submit to. This is when the problem occurs, this page with 20 or so values, and using https will reject randomly. If you try to submit again once you were rejected, it will go through... This does not happen with netscape at ALL, but with Internet Explorer only. The .jsp that request is submitted to reads those 20 properties into the bean, using property * Also, if we run tomcat only, locally (without apache), so if we submit to localhost:8080, this will not happen. This happens only when we submit over the net using apache, but then again we do not use https when using localhost. Please help, any info is EXTREMELY appreciate as we've been poking around for weeks now. If you need more information or the url to the actual application please let us know. Thank you.
Re: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests
looks like no-one wants to tackle this question... anyway, does anyone know any good consultants that work with jakarta-tomcat and apache - where additional help (even for a fee) could be asked. Thank you. -Original Message-From: Kresimir (Binsco) [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:18 PMSubject: tomcat in comb. with apache randomly rejecting requests Hi, I have already posted this quesion, but maybe I have not given enough detail. Please help as this is getting very frustrating. Ok, this is the problem briefly: Very randomly when we try to submit the request to tomcat (that is working with apache) we get the error message from the browser: "This page cannot be accesses... etc..." If we try to re-submit the request just few seconds after, clicking the same submit button ... it will work. Sometimes it will work first time too. Actually it will reject request maybe one out of three times, the slower the connection (I think) the more likely rejection is. Ok, these are the details. The application is a shopping cart and when user is submitting items to the cart, there is no problems. In this case we submit to regular http (not secure), and in the request there is only couple of values. After that, there is a page with the credit card and order information with about 20 or so fields, now this is https protocol we submit to. This is when the problem occurs, this page with 20 or so values, and using https will reject randomly. If you try to submit again once you were rejected, it will go through... This does not happen with netscape at ALL, but with Internet Explorer only. The .jsp that request is submitted to reads those 20 properties into the bean, using property * Also, if we run tomcat only, locally (without apache), so if we submit to localhost:8080, this will not happen. This happens only when we submit over the net using apache, but then again we do not use https when using localhost. Please help, any info is EXTREMELY appreciate as we've been poking around for weeks now. If you need more information or the url to the actual application please let us know. Thank you.
