tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
If you can do it manually, from a log in session, but not automatically from startup or from cron, I'm 99% sure it's because environment variables like JAVA_HOME and CATALINA_HOME are not being set for the startup and cron environments. Without those, you won't get anything. They're probably being set just fine for you when you log in. John -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
I had a similar problem, and changed catalina.sh to do this at the start: source /etc/profile This was where I was setting CATALINA_HOME, and JAVA_HOME. When the script got run at startup, those vars were not yet set... Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/03 10:20 AM Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Howdy, We have some tomcat instances that restart nightly from a crontab, without a problem. They're all tomcat 4.0.6-LE on Solaris 2.8. None use apache as the front end. None run as root. Each runs as its own user, and the restart job is in that user's crontab. We've had no problems with this setup. What does the cron output email say when you have problems? Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
I suspect it has something to do with your environmental variables: Quite likely the java_home catalina_home has not been set at the time the script executes. When doing it from the console, as you are already logged on, it will work fine. You could try to export the variables just before running startup, see if that makes a difference. Sadly this is about the extend of my guess ... :-) On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 17:13, Lott, Carey wrote: Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- p niemandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Do you mind sharing your Tomcat restart script with us? I want to do the same but perhaps on a weekly basis. One of the problems I am worried about is that Tomcat isn't stopping, so I would need to wait for it to end or kill it before I restart it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Ricky -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Howdy, We have some tomcat instances that restart nightly from a crontab, without a problem. They're all tomcat 4.0.6-LE on Solaris 2.8. None use apache as the front end. None run as root. Each runs as its own user, and the restart job is in that user's crontab. We've had no problems with this setup. What does the cron output email say when you have problems? Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
I was actually wondering about that concerning the startup environment, but I didn't think it would be an issue for cron since it was the root crontab. I'll add it to the script and see what happens. Thanks!! -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron If you can do it manually, from a log in session, but not automatically from startup or from cron, I'm 99% sure it's because environment variables like JAVA_HOME and CATALINA_HOME are not being set for the startup and cron environments. Without those, you won't get anything. They're probably being set just fine for you when you log in. John -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Y'all were right. You were absolutely right! It was the environment variables. Once I placed the variables at the beginning of the script and exported them, the cron worked perfectly. Thanks Again -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:37 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron I was actually wondering about that concerning the startup environment, but I didn't think it would be an issue for cron since it was the root crontab. I'll add it to the script and see what happens. Thanks!! -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron If you can do it manually, from a log in session, but not automatically from startup or from cron, I'm 99% sure it's because environment variables like JAVA_HOME and CATALINA_HOME are not being set for the startup and cron environments. Without those, you won't get anything. They're probably being set just fine for you when you log in. John -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Howdy, I can't share the exact script due to intellectual property law issues ;) But it's trivial, basically doing: export CATALINA_HOME=/foo/bar $CATALINA_HOME/bin/shutdown.sh sleep 60 $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh That's it. One of the problems I am worried about is that Tomcat isn't stopping, so I would need to wait for it to end or kill it before I restart it. If tomcat isn't stopping, find out why and fix it if possible. The most typical cause is non-daemon user threads spawned by your apps but never destroyed properly. We had that problem and fixed it where we could. Where we can't, we run only one webapp per instance and have a ServletContextListener with a System.exit() call in its contextDestroyed() method to assure shutdown. Not the cleanest solution, but it's worked well in practice. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Thanks for the info. For the information, Tomcat usually stops, but occasionally, it doesn't. This seems to happen when there are some lockwaits on the db and Tomcat is just sitting there waiting for it to return. And yes, we are tracking on it to see why this is happening so we can have this fixed. Ricky -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:03 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Howdy, I can't share the exact script due to intellectual property law issues ;) But it's trivial, basically doing: export CATALINA_HOME=/foo/bar $CATALINA_HOME/bin/shutdown.sh sleep 60 $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh That's it. One of the problems I am worried about is that Tomcat isn't stopping, so I would need to wait for it to end or kill it before I restart it. If tomcat isn't stopping, find out why and fix it if possible. The most typical cause is non-daemon user threads spawned by your apps but never destroyed properly. We had that problem and fixed it where we could. Where we can't, we run only one webapp per instance and have a ServletContextListener with a System.exit() call in its contextDestroyed() method to assure shutdown. Not the cleanest solution, but it's worked well in practice. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Ricky, Actually, for my startup script that is in init.d, all I am doing is linking to catalina.sh. An ls -al of it look like this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 53 Nov 12 09:01 tomcat - /bto/appl/apache/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.4/bin/catalina.sh I have then placed a link to this in the rc3.d. I could have linked directly to catalina.sh from rc3.d, but for consistency I like all my startup and kill scripts in the rc#.d directories to link to the init.d directory. The link in the rc3.d directory looks like this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root sys 18 Oct 25 10:13 S55tomcat - /etc/init.d/tomcat An uppercase S signifies a startup script, and an uppercase K signifies a kill (or stop) script. This is the script I am using in the crontab: (I am sure many have come up with better, but this works for my developers) #!/bin/ksh # The script stops and starts the java servlet container JAVA_HOME=/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk CATALINA_HOME=/bto/appl/apache/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.4 #CLASSPATH=$CATALINA_HOME/common/lib:$JAVA_HOME/jre/lib:$JAVA_HOME/lib:$JAVA _HOME/jre/lib/ext:. CLASSPATH=$CATALINA_HOME/common/lib/servlet.jar:/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/jre/l ib/rt.jar:/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/lib/tools.jar:/bto/app l/apache/j2sdk/lib/dt.jar:/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/lib/htmlconverter.jar:/bto/ appl/apache/j2sdk/jre/lib/charsets.jar:/bto/appl/apache /j2sdk/jre/lib/javaplugin.jar:/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/jre/lib/ext/dnsns.jar:/ bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/jre/lib/ext/localedata.jar:/bto/a ppl/apache/j2sdk/jre/lib/ext/ldapsec.jar:/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/jre/lib/jce. jar:/bto/appl/apache/j2sdk/jre/lib/jsse.jar:.:/bto/appl /apache/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.4/webapps/esd/WEB-INF/classes:/bto/appl/apache/ja karta-tomcat-4.0.4/webapps/esd/WEB-INF/lib:/bto/appl/ap ache/htdocs/esd/java export JAVA_HOME export CATALINA_HOME export CLASSPATH /bto/appl/apache/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.4/bin/catalina.sh stop /bin/sleep 10 /bto/appl/apache/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.4/bin/catalina.sh start -Original Message- From: Ricky Leung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:36 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Do you mind sharing your Tomcat restart script with us? I want to do the same but perhaps on a weekly basis. One of the problems I am worried about is that Tomcat isn't stopping, so I would need to wait for it to end or kill it before I restart it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Ricky -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Howdy, We have some tomcat instances that restart nightly from a crontab, without a problem. They're all tomcat 4.0.6-LE on Solaris 2.8. None use apache as the front end. None run as root. Each runs as its own user, and the restart job is in that user's crontab. We've had no problems with this setup. What does the cron output email say when you have problems? Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Lott, Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron Has anybody had a problem with tomcat (4.0.4) starting after a reboot? Or problems starting it from the root crontab? I have no problems at all starting tomcat manually. Everything works fine that way. To automate the startup after a reboot, I am using init.d with the startup script in rc3.d. However, nothing is happening. I'm not even receiving any errors in the logs. But I can immediately start it manually with out a problem. Also I can't stop and start tomcat from a crontab. I set up a stop and start script and placed them in the root crontab, but the time comes to stop tomcat and nothing happens then the startup script should be initiated a minute later but it is a mute point since tomcat didn't stop, but nothing shows up in the logs either way. Is there a parameter or something that I am missing for this to work? I am running Tomcat 4.0.4 (as a standalone server using port 8880) on Solaris 2.7. Apache 1.3.9 is running on the server as well using port 80. Thanks in advance for the help. - Carey - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
If you can do it manually, from a log in session, but not automatically from startup or from cron, I'm 99% sure it's because environment variables like JAVA_HOME and CATALINA_HOME are not being set for the startup and cron environments. Without those, you won't get anything. They're probably being set just fine for you when you log in. We're having the same problem with 4.1.1x on HP-UX 11. We did have JAVA_HOME set, but not CATALINA_HOME, CATALINA_BASE or CATALINA_TMPDIR. But adding those three didn't help. Curiously, you can (as root) type '/sbin/init.d/hpws_tomcat start' (sans single quotes) and it starts up just fine. It's executing this: su www -c $HPWS_TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh 1/dev/null 21 I also added export statments for the three CATALINA variables to the hpws_tomcat script, seeing that there was an export for JAVA_HOME in there already. The [Unix] startup logs show Tomcat Started which gets output if all is well after the line above. But the Tomcat logs show *nothing* as if startup.sh was never run, and it isn't running. It's a mystery, but since I can start Tomcat manually it's not an emergency. Any ideas? -- Wendy Smoak Applications Systems Analyst, Sr. Arizona State University PA Information Resources Management
RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron
Just one, but I'm not sure it's relevant on HP-UX. su www is not the same as su - www. The - means use the login environment the user whose username is the next argument. So, even if you exported the variables, without telling su to pick them up, it won't. At least, that's how it works in the open source world, as well as Solaris. HTH John -Original Message- From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:23 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: tomcat not starting after reboot or from cron If you can do it manually, from a log in session, but not automatically from startup or from cron, I'm 99% sure it's because environment variables like JAVA_HOME and CATALINA_HOME are not being set for the startup and cron environments. Without those, you won't get anything. They're probably being set just fine for you when you log in. We're having the same problem with 4.1.1x on HP-UX 11. We did have JAVA_HOME set, but not CATALINA_HOME, CATALINA_BASE or CATALINA_TMPDIR. But adding those three didn't help. Curiously, you can (as root) type '/sbin/init.d/hpws_tomcat start' (sans single quotes) and it starts up just fine. It's executing this: su www -c $HPWS_TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh 1/dev/null 21 I also added export statments for the three CATALINA variables to the hpws_tomcat script, seeing that there was an export for JAVA_HOME in there already. The [Unix] startup logs show Tomcat Started which gets output if all is well after the line above. But the Tomcat logs show *nothing* as if startup.sh was never run, and it isn't running. It's a mystery, but since I can start Tomcat manually it's not an emergency. Any ideas? -- Wendy Smoak Applications Systems Analyst, Sr. Arizona State University PA Information Resources Management -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]