Re: website hosting

2005-05-17 Thread Mark
I read the link, and was curious as to what your opinion is when
running Tomcat over SSL.  I put Apache in front of Tomcat when SSL is
required.

TIA...
Mark

On 5/15/05, Lutz Zetzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Tomislav,
 
 Am Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 16:10 schrieb t.n.a.:
  Lutz Zetzsche wrote:
  As regards performance, running Apache in front of Tomcat is not
  preferable. A standalone Tomcat is faster than a Tomcat behind an
  Apache.
 
  I'm not speaking from my own experiance, but I've done some reading
  some time ago and the best practice I've found is to have apache
  serve static content because it's faster and comes with a whole lot
  of modules and have Tomcat serve the dynamic content - don't know if
  we're talking about the same thing.
 
 Well, what I mean is that Tomcat can serve dynamic content faster if it
 runs standalone so that the requests are directly handled and the pages
 are directly served by Tomcat.
 
 Also, the gap between Tomcat and Apache is closing as regards the
 performance in serving static content.
 
 Here are a few pros and cons for the Apache-Tomcat combination:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/connectors.html#integrate
 
 My personal point of view is that I would always try to avoid to run a
 Tomcat behind an Apache, as this can sometimes significantly impair the
 performance when serving dynamic content from Tomcat.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Lutz
 
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Re: website hosting

2005-05-17 Thread Woodchuck
fwiw, i am upgrading my web app from Tomcat 4.1.24 to Tomcat 5.5.9 and
wow... the performance increase is very noticeable.  


--- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I read the link, and was curious as to what your opinion is when
 running Tomcat over SSL.  I put Apache in front of Tomcat when SSL is
 required.
 
 TIA...
 Mark
 
 On 5/15/05, Lutz Zetzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Tomislav,
  
  Am Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 16:10 schrieb t.n.a.:
   Lutz Zetzsche wrote:
   As regards performance, running Apache in front of Tomcat is not
   preferable. A standalone Tomcat is faster than a Tomcat behind
 an
   Apache.
  
   I'm not speaking from my own experiance, but I've done some
 reading
   some time ago and the best practice I've found is to have apache
   serve static content because it's faster and comes with a whole
 lot
   of modules and have Tomcat serve the dynamic content - don't know
 if
   we're talking about the same thing.
  
  Well, what I mean is that Tomcat can serve dynamic content faster
 if it
  runs standalone so that the requests are directly handled and the
 pages
  are directly served by Tomcat.
  
  Also, the gap between Tomcat and Apache is closing as regards the
  performance in serving static content.
  
  Here are a few pros and cons for the Apache-Tomcat combination:
  
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/connectors.html#integrate
  
  My personal point of view is that I would always try to avoid to
 run a
  Tomcat behind an Apache, as this can sometimes significantly impair
 the
  performance when serving dynamic content from Tomcat.
  
  Best wishes
  
  Lutz
  
 
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Re: website hosting

2005-05-16 Thread David Smith
Just to add my two cents to this -- you can use jsvc from the
commons-daemon project to start Tomcat with root long enough to get port
80 and then drop root for normal run.

Running Apache in front of Tomcat adds an extra layer of complexity and
more processing.  Take a look at what you need and if the extra layer is
really worth it before putting up Apache in front of Tomcat.  For a site
that's mostly dynamic and lots of decision making, just use Tomcat w/
jsvc and drop Apache altogether.

--David

Lutz Zetzsche wrote:

Hi Tomislav,

Am Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 16:10 schrieb t.n.a.:
  

Lutz Zetzsche wrote:


As regards performance, running Apache in front of Tomcat is not
preferable. A standalone Tomcat is faster than a Tomcat behind an
Apache.
  

I'm not speaking from my own experiance, but I've done some reading
some time ago and the best practice I've found is to have apache
serve static content because it's faster and comes with a whole lot
of modules and have Tomcat serve the dynamic content - don't know if
we're talking about the same thing.



Well, what I mean is that Tomcat can serve dynamic content faster if it 
runs standalone so that the requests are directly handled and the pages 
are directly served by Tomcat.

Also, the gap between Tomcat and Apache is closing as regards the 
performance in serving static content.

Here are a few pros and cons for the Apache-Tomcat combination:

   http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/connectors.html#integrate

My personal point of view is that I would always try to avoid to run a 
Tomcat behind an Apache, as this can sometimes significantly impair the 
performance when serving dynamic content from Tomcat.


Best wishes

Lutz

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Re: website hosting

2005-05-16 Thread Jason Bainbridge
On 5/14/05, Lutz Zetzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Suri,
 
 Am Samstag, 14. Mai 2005 17:05 schrieb suri.jagadish:
  How do I configure the tomcat for the default port  80 for answering
  the http request for the ip address in the net
 
 It is not recommended to run Tomcat as root. If you would configure to
 listen to port 80 instead of port 8080, you would need to run Tomcat as
 root because ports below 1024 require root privileges.

Considering the OP mentioned IIS in his post I think it is safe to
assume that he is running Tomcat on Windows so you don't need root
privileges to open port 80, although Windows Services are run under
LocalSystem by default so I recommend changing that to a more locked
down user.

Unless you have a specialized need there really isn't much reason to
put Tomcat behind Apache with mod_jk, there used to be good reason for
serving static content but with the Coyote connector Tomcat can keep
pace with Tomcat fairly well and even outpace it in some areas. The
added configuration and maintenace it introduces isn't worth it unless
you need it and if you do need it then you're going to know it before
asking.

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Re: website hosting

2005-05-15 Thread t.n.a.
Lutz Zetzsche wrote:
As regards performance, running Apache in front of Tomcat is not 
preferable. A standalone Tomcat is faster than a Tomcat behind an 
Apache.
 

I'm not speaking from my own experiance, but I've done some reading some 
time ago and the best practice I've found is to have apache serve static 
content because it's faster and comes with a whole lot of modules and 
have Tomcat serve the dynamic content - don't know if we're talking 
about the same thing.

Regards,
Tomislav
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Re: website hosting

2005-05-15 Thread Lutz Zetzsche
Hi Tomislav,

Am Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 16:10 schrieb t.n.a.:
 Lutz Zetzsche wrote:
 As regards performance, running Apache in front of Tomcat is not
 preferable. A standalone Tomcat is faster than a Tomcat behind an
 Apache.

 I'm not speaking from my own experiance, but I've done some reading
 some time ago and the best practice I've found is to have apache
 serve static content because it's faster and comes with a whole lot
 of modules and have Tomcat serve the dynamic content - don't know if
 we're talking about the same thing.

Well, what I mean is that Tomcat can serve dynamic content faster if it 
runs standalone so that the requests are directly handled and the pages 
are directly served by Tomcat.

Also, the gap between Tomcat and Apache is closing as regards the 
performance in serving static content.

Here are a few pros and cons for the Apache-Tomcat combination:

http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/connectors.html#integrate

My personal point of view is that I would always try to avoid to run a 
Tomcat behind an Apache, as this can sometimes significantly impair the 
performance when serving dynamic content from Tomcat.


Best wishes

Lutz

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website hosting

2005-05-14 Thread suri.jagadish
Hi

 

I need to host a website using the tomcat Webserver

 

How do I configure the tomcat for the default port  80 for answering the
http request for the ip address in the net

 

I had already done it using (Microsoft) IIS.



Re: website hosting

2005-05-14 Thread Barry Kimelman






Go to the directory where Tomcat is installed.

Under the Tomcat directory there will be a "conf" sub-directory.
In the "conf" directory there will be a "server.xml" file.
In the "server.xml" file you can configure many aspects of Tomcat, including the port on which Tomcat listens.


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---Original Message---


From: suri.jagadish
Date: 05/14/05 11:06:30
To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: website hosting

Hi



I need to host a website using the tomcat Webserver



How do I configure the tomcat for the default port80 for answering the
http request for the ip address in the net



I had already done it using (Microsoft) IIS.












Re: website hosting

2005-05-14 Thread Lutz Zetzsche
Hi Suri,

Am Samstag, 14. Mai 2005 17:05 schrieb suri.jagadish:
 How do I configure the tomcat for the default port  80 for answering
 the http request for the ip address in the net

It is not recommended to run Tomcat as root. If you would configure to 
listen to port 80 instead of port 8080, you would need to run Tomcat as 
root because ports below 1024 require root privileges.

There are several ways to achieve, that Tomcat can be reached on port 80 
from outside although it is running on port 8080 locally. The way which 
I prefer is to setup a rule in the firewall of the machine redirecting 
incoming request for port 80 to port 8080.


Best wishes

Lutz

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Re: website hosting

2005-05-14 Thread t.n.a.
suri.jagadish wrote:
Hi

I need to host a website using the tomcat Webserver

How do I configure the tomcat for the default port  80 for answering the
http request for the ip address in the net

I had already done it using (Microsoft) IIS.
 

Don't know if you want to hear this, but you might want to use Apache 
and mod_jk. :)
Basically, I haven't heard once someone suggest you run it directly on 
:80 for a number of reasons (run as root, performance, availability of 
modules etc.).

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Re: website hosting

2005-05-14 Thread Lutz Zetzsche
Am Samstag, 14. Mai 2005 18:47 schrieb t.n.a.:
 Basically, I haven't heard once someone suggest you run it directly
 on
 :80 for a number of reasons (run as root, performance, availability
 : of modules etc.).

As regards performance, running Apache in front of Tomcat is not 
preferable. A standalone Tomcat is faster than a Tomcat behind an 
Apache.

I still prefer to run Tomcat as non-root on port 8080 locally, 
satisfying security needs, and to set up a redirection rule in the 
firewall for requests on port 80 from remote.


Best wishes

Lutz

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Re: JSP website hosting ?

2001-06-09 Thread Dom

Hi

Maybe you're french (I'm french) but I answer in english

I own a server, which I use for research and development of JSP and
databases, here in Paris
Linux, Apache, Tomcat 3.2.2, PHP4, MySql, Postgresql, IBM DB2, etc ...

If you're interested, write me back

Dom

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From: SIMONIN Alexandre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: JSP website hosting ?


 Hi,

 My apologies if this may not be the ideal place for such question...

 I'm looking for a company which could host two sites written in JSP ?
 One site has a .fr extension and the other a .com.

 Any suggestions ?

 Thanks in advance
 Alexandre





JSP website hosting ?

2001-06-08 Thread SIMONIN Alexandre

Hi,

My apologies if this may not be the ideal place for such question...

I'm looking for a company which could host two sites written in JSP ?
One site has a .fr extension and the other a .com.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance
Alexandre



RE: JSP website hosting ?

2001-06-08 Thread Randy Wilcox

I'm having good luck with cwihosting.com so far, I just signed up with them a week ago 
so I'm not making any promises ;-)

Randy


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From: SIMONIN Alexandre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:54 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: JSP website hosting ?


Hi,

My apologies if this may not be the ideal place for such question...

I'm looking for a company which could host two sites written in JSP ?
One site has a .fr extension and the other a .com.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance
Alexandre



Re: JSP website hosting ?

2001-06-08 Thread Corey A. Johnson

plugmy company offers JSP/J2EE hosting./plug

we use Sun SPARC systems, Apache/TOMCAT and jBoss.

Dedicated instance of TOMCAT...

;-)

Cj

SIMONIN Alexandre wrote:

 Hi,

 My apologies if this may not be the ideal place for such question...

 I'm looking for a company which could host two sites written in JSP ?
 One site has a .fr extension and the other a .com.

 Any suggestions ?

 Thanks in advance
 Alexandre

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