Topband: PTØS Summary

2012-12-23 Thread wb6rse1
For those who may not have seen it. 3K Qs on 160.

http://pt0s.com/PT0S_Summary.pdf

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: BOG Antenna Measurements

2012-12-23 Thread Carl




I have been looking for information on BOGs and have not been able to find 
any info on measured impedance values.  Other than they are low, depends on 
ground, etc.  I thought I would relate my recent experience.




My own experience with 3 500' unidirectional BOGs over very poor ground is 
that a 220 Ohm resistor appears to be close to ideal for  me. YMMV depending 
upon the ground and how close to the ground the BOG actually is. Mine mostly 
ride 3-6" above ground on low plants, twigs, etc. and thru the woods. These 
were installed to reduce crud pickup from neighbors in the belief that they 
are not as susceptible as the regular Beverages. Operation has shown them 
usually more beneficial crud reducers but not as good on real long haul DX.


The 73-202 cores are wound transformer style and not unun autotransformer 
versions; the reason is to minimize common mode using the normal suggested 
seperation of antenna and feedline grounds


I hope others share their observations.

Carl
KM1H 


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Topband: Good Conditions Tonight on 160?

2012-12-23 Thread Arthur Delibert




FYI, this is an unusually good night on the upper end of the AM broadcast band, 
with a great signal from Kuwait on 1548.  Topband afficianados may want to 
check out conditions.  
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Topband: BOG Antenna Measurements

2012-12-23 Thread Don Johnson
I have been looking for information on BOGs and have not been able to find any 
info on measured impedance values.  Other than they are low, depends on ground, 
etc.  I thought I would relate my recent experience. 

I had tried a couple Beverages in the past at a salt marsh location and did not 
have much luck.  Ground too good, some say. I doubt that was the major problem. 
 May never know for sure. Last year I tried one at a new location ( 50 miles 
inland from my salt marsh QTH) and was not impressed. However, I used unknown 
wire and my old beverage transformer. The unknown wire should have worked 
anyway. I now suspect my old transformer had design or construction problems!

This year at the suggestion of a friend, I simply ran a wire, on the ground, 
about 220 feet in the woods. The 220 was chosen due to the property line and 
other grass cutting factors.  Since I could not find the old transformer, I 
wound a new one.  The new one was the same design as I had used in the past, 
but was the same core.   I got BOG up, I mean down, in time for the CQWW CW 
contest. WOW!   it was all I used on 160, almost all I used on 80 and I even 
used it quite a bit on 40. 

For the ARRL 160 contest it was used almost all the time.  I probably spent too 
much time switching back and forth just to see and hear the difference.  I had 
run it unterminated directly away from Europe. The strength of the signals from 
Europe was fantastic. No pre amp needed. W5s were strong too,naturally with it 
un-terminated.

This week, I ran a feedline out to the far end (SW end). I also received a 
package of BN-73-202 cores and wound a 4:1 transformer.  I figured that may be 
in the ballpark.  The one I wound in November that worked so well had a Z ratio 
of 3:1 and on an old FT-140-43 core.  The old one (which maybe never worked 
right was a 9:1 ratio)Last night I worked eight stations from Europe, all 
very good copy on the BOG. I also noticed that when I switched from the 
transmit antenna to the BOG, unlike the European stations,  6Y5WJ disappeared.  
So there is some directivity.  More BOGs are planned before the CQ 160 contest! 
 

 So far I have not had time to play with the termination resistor or experiment 
with any other transformer impedance ratio.  My old MFJ seems to be close on 
reading SWR but is off on the actual R value.  
With my BOG terminated with 160 ohms, I am reading an SWR of 1.9 across the 160 
band. The MFJ 259B is showing no reactance.  That is telling me that the MFJ is 
seeing either 25 or 100 ohms.  I also am using close to a half wavelength of 
coax to the feed point of the BOG, maybe more. If that is the case the 
other side of the 4:1 transformer must be seeing 400 ohms or 100 ohms.  From 
what I have read, the 400 is probably too high for a BOG. The 100 ohms seems 
more likely.  

My intention is to wind a 2:1 transformer (Z ratio not turns ratio) which, if 
my guess is right, will transform 100 down to 50 and be a good match for my 50 
ohms coax, thus the MFJ would give me a 1:1 indication. Should I dare hope for 
such results? 

Merry Christmas to all and Good DXing on Topband.

73,
Don
N4DJ

n...@me.com
n4dj.com







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Re: Topband: PE coated RG6

2012-12-23 Thread Mike Waters
Thanks to everyone who replied to my question! I think we're good to go.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Topband: Happy birthday

2012-12-23 Thread Frank Davis
Happy Birthday Dec 24 to old Pal Jack VE1ZZ!


Frank VO1HP
Joe VO1NA
Erik. SM5EDX

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Re: Topband: Subject: Re: Why the DX doesn't always work split? Especially on the low bands

2012-12-23 Thread N1BUG

On 12/22/2012 08:18 PM, Steve Ireland wrote:

On the 16 December, there was a nice opening into the eastern USA with
signals to S6, but the static and general atmospheric noise was about the
same level - a common phenomenon.  As it is summer in the southern half of
the world, it is REALLY noisy!  I ended up asking for heaps of repeats
mainly because of the noise.


Perhaps a comment from the other side of that same opening?

I called Steve a few times that morning but stopped because even 
with a 200 Hz filter and audio peaking it was difficult to hear when 
he came back to people through the callers. They were spread out 
some but it only takes a couple who call too long or with 
questionable/unfortunate timing to make things difficult when the DX 
is S7 and the callers are 20 to 30 over S9.


Steve had a relatively small pile (10 callers at a time?) of 
reasonably well behaved DXers. For me it was marginally OK working 
simplex but I very likely might have missed it once or twice had he 
come back to me. I heard Steve answer a few stations who did not 
copy him right away due to the other callers (I'm assuming, because 
there were others still calling and they subsequently seemed to hear 
him just fine when in the clear). That may have slowed his potential 
QSO rate somewhat but not drastically. With a few more callers or a 
couple who are particularly eager it can easily go from that to 
total chaos.


Of course there are times when there isn't enough space on the band 
for all DX with multiple callers to go split.


73,
Paul N1BUG
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