Re: Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-17 Thread Carl
If I want great sounding SSB I fire up the CE-100V with the factory 160M 
option, NCL-2000 modified to include 160, and highly modified 75A4; along 
with a D-104. Ive had all since the 60's.


Carl
KM1H


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I'm still living in the 60s. I use a Galaxy GT-550 for non 160M work.

73, Jeff KH6O / 6
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Re: Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-17 Thread Thomas W4HM
This past winter season I borrowed a friend's K3 and used it and my Kenwood 
TS-590S in a SO2R setup in a number of RTTY contests. I found that 99% of 
the time the TS-590S heard what the K3 did. It was a pleasant surprise. 
Neither rig suffered 2 kHz spacing IMD crud.


I also ran a SO2R RTTY contest setup with my TS-590S and an Icom IC-7600 and 
the TS-590S was the clear winner. Using 2 kHz spacing for IMD when I printed 
weak RTTY signals against strong RTTY signals on the Icom IC-7600 it failed 
every time. In that circumstance I could see and hear approximately 6 db of 
IMD crud on the IC-7600.


I sold the Icom IC-7600 and bought a second TS-590S for SO2R RTTY 
contesting.


As far as the TS-590S ALC issue there is a brief millisecond spike of output 
power that occurs on keydown and it can trip a solid state amplifier into 
safe mode. But I didn't test for that problem on my TS-590S's.


As I use an Ameritron AL-80B the ALC power output spike problem is not an 
issue. Kenwood will fix the ALC power output issue for free whether the rig 
is in or out of warranty. You have to pay for shipping to Kenwood and they 
pay for return shipping.


73  God Bless,
Thomas F. Giella W4HM
Lakeland, FL, USA
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W4HM's Amateur  SWL Autobiography: http://www.w4hm.org




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To: a topband @ COL topband@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 12:27 PM
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Trent the Kenwood TS-590S would meet your requirements and it has a better 
receiver in it than the TS-2000. The TS-590S receiver section rivals the 
K3.


73  God Bless,
Thomas F. Giella W4HM
Lakeland, FL, USA
thomasfgie...@gmail.com

W4HM's Amateur  SWL Autobiography: http://www.w4hm.org






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Topband: K3 vs THE REST

2014-06-17 Thread Bill Liz
I have owned a K3 for just over 3 years and my impression is that, for “normal” 
operation on the bands there is little difference between it and several other 
transceivers.  However, where the K3 shines is on CW, digging out readable copy 
on stations which are right down in the crud.  No Yaesu, ICOM or Kenwood radio 
I have used comes close to what the K3 can do in that regard IMHO.  Operated in 
diversity mode (two antennas, one vertically and one horizontally polarized) 
with the proper filter and bandwidth, it is truly amazing what the l’il guy can 
pull out of the noise.

But of course all this is very subjective!

Bill VE3CSK
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Re: Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-17 Thread Max Cotton
It's not that long ago when everyone would be raving about the Drake R-4C , 
so many pictures of top Topband Dxer's with one on the table, how times 
change.

73, Max
M0GHQ/W8BX 


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Re: Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-17 Thread Carl
I had a pair of  C Lines from about 77-86 when they were replaced by a pair 
of TS-930's. Prior to that it was the highly modified 75A4 I still have and 
often use as the second RX on 160.


In stock shape the R-4C audio was horrible and I used the Sherwood circuit. 
I worked my 160 DXCC with it


Carl
KM1H
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It's not that long ago when everyone would be raving about the Drake R-4C 
, so many pictures of top Topband Dxer's with one on the table, how times 
change.

73, Max
M0GHQ/W8BX
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Re: Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-17 Thread Mike Waters
I suppose that means that you prefer your customized phase-locked Drake
C-line?

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote:

 I prefer analog detection of weak signals in noise, but I can live with
 the K3 when it is adjusted to my liking.

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Re: Topband: Rig Question

2014-06-17 Thread Carl



Having just completed being host station for W1AW/5 and also a multi-op 
for

the ARRL June VHF Contest where we had several guest operators at W5ZN who
ranged from highly skilled HF ops, some mid level ops and some Rookie ops 
I

have been reading this thread with both interest and humor.

I have four K3's in the station here. I like 'em, best performing and best
sounding radio I have ever owned but I have tweaked them for ME over time.
Previous radios here (Yaesu FT1000 and Icom IC-7700) have also been great
sound radios but I tweaked them for ME. After this past week it has become
quite obvious, at least for me, that:

1. The factual results of performance tests by Rob Sherwood and others
really can't be debated. Oh, you can debate facts just to hear yourself
pontificate but it will not change the facts.



** Those tests are somewhat limited since the frequency used is seldom 
mentioned. IMO 10M is the place where RF performance falls for the HF bands 
and phase noise varies per band. A few tests appear to have operator or 
equipment error, they certainly arent the last word.




So, when it comes down to I don't like the way the RX audio sounds for me
it is simply:

1. Put three hams in a room and you will get six different opinions about
how the audio sounds. We're all getting old and our hearing is
changing/deteriorating.


** We are not talking about hi fi audiophools here, if anyone cant hear 
300-3000Hz its not a radio he needs.




2. The Icom owners want the K3 to immediately sound just like the Icom at
their shack that they have tweaked, peaked and pampered to their ear's
audio pattern AND their shacks acoustic properties.

3. Ditto for Yaesu and Kenwood.

4. Most hams want to bring their own headphones that work great on their
radio but sounds horrible on other radios...so it is the radio's fault
and not their headset. I actually had this debate with an op this weekend
and he learned there is a difference.


** Why is that if they are the correct impedance? Ive yet to experience that 
problem among the KIY family; any headphone should be plug-n-play between 
quality rigs. At real contest stations the headphones come with the operator 
unless they are the same brand he uses at home. Some are strictly guest ops 
with no home station.
Ive been DXing and contesting since the late 50's where there was 
considerable variance, from high impedance off the audio amp grid, 500 and 
3.2-8 Ohms off the output transformer.





5. The station owner (me, in this case) gets pretty PO'ed when a visiting
ham says his radios sound like crap resulting is a response from the
station owner thanking the op for visiting the station for the first and
LAST time.


** More power to the person for speaking up, if you asked him to operate you 
should be ready to make adjustments in your fussy non standard equipment.
Not being able to handle criticism is poor form as shown by many on the K3 
forum. When I go to a restaurant or hotel and the service/quality isnt what 
I expect and if it isnt corrected THEN I AM the one to not return.





Just wondering if maybe poor RX audio quality is why some hams like to
confirm they actually made a QSO in the Chat rooms rather then on the
air...just speculating, different topic but couldn't resist the urge.



** Wouldnt know, I wouldnt bother being in one.



Now back to setting my K3's back to my personal hearing preferences.

--
73 Joel W5ZN
www.w5zn.org


** Thats what I like about my TS-950SD, it is high performance as in a Caddy 
CTS-V and not cranky as with many high end European cars or medium quality 
with a fancy option package. A guest is running DX here within a few minutes 
of sitting down.


Carl
KM1H

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Re: Topband: K3 vs THE REST

2014-06-17 Thread James Rodenkirch
YES!!!  Good on ya, Pat!!!  Always fun to chat and challenge others, 
technically, as LONG as we all get on the air, particularly on Top Band!  Keep 
a sharp ear/eye out for us QRP o[s!
 
72, jim Rodenkirch K9JWV 
 
 To: topband@contesting.com
 From: n...@linuxcolumbus.com
 Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:38:35 -0400
 Subject: Re: Topband: K3 vs THE REST
 
 I'm not sure how any of this apples vs oranges debate is going to help get 
 more
 activity in the summer Stew coming up June 21/22.  Therefore, I'd suggest
 everyone on this list get on in the Stew and adjust your rx audio till it 
 sounds
 great!  Just to make sure you have it adjusted correctly, call cq  so you can
 get a variety of signals to listen too.
 
 So remember June 21st, starting at 15z till June 22nd 15z.
 
 I'll shut up now.
 
 Pat N8VW
 Happy K3/100 Owner
 
 PS. vi is best.
 
 
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Re: Topband: K3 vs THE REST

2014-06-17 Thread Mike Waters

  So remember June 21st, starting at 15z till June 22nd 15z.


I've been looking forward the the Stew for some time. Hopefully, the QRN
will be much less than it has been for the past month or two.
http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Severe/Lightning.aspx

 73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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