Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
During both the ARRL 160 or the CQWW 160 CW contests from C6AGU (FL14tv, a very quiet location) about 250 miles east of FL, I hear and work stations during the day well into the continental US: sometimes as far as 1200 miles away (W2). Most of the contact take place before 11 AM local time, but some propagation does persist until midday and probably beyond that. 73, George, AA7JV/C6AGU On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 08:14:49 -0500 K4SAV wrote: A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class stations). Jerry, K4SAV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
Sorry, the second QSO was at 1726z not 1717z. From: Topband on behalf of Brian Campbell Sent: September 17, 2019 3:38:35 PM To: K4SAV ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: 160 skip distance Hi Jerry and group, I was one of those stations Jerry. I worked you at 1712z and 1717z on 2008-01-05. I was running 100 watts and the distance was 1200km. We gave each other 549 reports IIRC ( from my log ). I was on for about 7 days at or just after local noon here doing tests and I worked about 14 stations ranging from 200 to 1200 km out. However my best "DX" was W8JI at 1270 km who gave me a 579 at 100 watts. I then went to 5 watts and he gave me a 479(!) But then again it was W8JI... So yes there IS prop on 160 even at high noon - at least out to 1000km or so. But like you said it helps if people are QRV. I self spotted at the time to let everyone know which definitely helped. 73, Brian VE3MGY From: Topband on behalf of K4SAV Sent: September 17, 2019 9:14:49 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: 160 skip distance A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class stations). Jerry, K4SAV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
Hi Jerry and group, I was one of those stations Jerry. I worked you at 1712z and 1717z on 2008-01-05. I was running 100 watts and the distance was 1200km. We gave each other 549 reports IIRC ( from my log ). I was on for about 7 days at or just after local noon here doing tests and I worked about 14 stations ranging from 200 to 1200 km out. However my best "DX" was W8JI at 1270 km who gave me a 579 at 100 watts. I then went to 5 watts and he gave me a 479(!) But then again it was W8JI... So yes there IS prop on 160 even at high noon - at least out to 1000km or so. But like you said it helps if people are QRV. I self spotted at the time to let everyone know which definitely helped. 73, Brian VE3MGY From: Topband on behalf of K4SAV Sent: September 17, 2019 9:14:49 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: 160 skip distance A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class stations). Jerry, K4SAV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
There was indeed a plaque for the longest distance - within an hour of high noon. I believe it was a QSO between Oregon and Arizona - a pretty good distance. Tree On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:55 AM Tim Shoppa wrote: > There's a "max distance in pure daylight" Stew Perry award at least some > years? > > At start of a 160M contest (5PM local time, shortly before my sunset) I > have no problem making QSO's into Indiana and Illinois (600-700 miles). > > I would be reluctant to call this NVIS. The stations doing 500+ miles in > broad daylight on 160 are using decent antenna systems, NOT using crappy > NVIS antennas. > > Tim N3QE > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM Dan Edward Dba East edwards < > dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > true enough. i have heard K0RF at high noon, here in north east texas > 73, > > w5xz > > > > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 08:14:58 AM CDT, K4SAV < > > radi...@charter.net> wrote: > > > > A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked > > at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked > > stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It > > doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. > > > > You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are > > stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class > stations). > > > > Jerry, K4SAV > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
There's a "max distance in pure daylight" Stew Perry award at least some years? At start of a 160M contest (5PM local time, shortly before my sunset) I have no problem making QSO's into Indiana and Illinois (600-700 miles). I would be reluctant to call this NVIS. The stations doing 500+ miles in broad daylight on 160 are using decent antenna systems, NOT using crappy NVIS antennas. Tim N3QE On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM Dan Edward Dba East edwards < dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > true enough. i have heard K0RF at high noon, here in north east texas 73, > w5xz > > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 08:14:58 AM CDT, K4SAV < > radi...@charter.net> wrote: > > A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked > at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked > stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It > doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. > > You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are > stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class stations). > > Jerry, K4SAV > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
true enough. i have heard K0RF at high noon, here in north east texas 73, w5xz On Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 08:14:58 AM CDT, K4SAV wrote: A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class stations). Jerry, K4SAV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: 160 skip distance
A few years back guys on this forum decided to see what could be worked at noon time. There were a few stations on at that time and I worked stations up to 600 miles. That will vary with band conditions. It doesn't work well if there are no stations on the band. You can observe the same thing during a major contest when there are stations working the band during the day (usually multi-op class stations). Jerry, K4SAV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
