Re: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night

2019-12-11 Thread VE6WZ_Steve
Last night I worked 46 EU from 0300z till about 0600.
In spite of the elevated solar wind, the band was in great shape into VE6.

de steve ve6wz


> On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Roger Kennedy  
> wrote:
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> Not sure what conditions are like, but I hope we'll get a few stations on
> tonight !
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> 73 Roger G3YRO
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Re: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night

2019-12-11 Thread w5zn

Just a few mins past SS here. LB6GG is on and that's it so far.

73 Joel W5ZN


On 2019-12-11 16:09, David Olean wrote:

I heard G4EIM/QRP  calling AA1K and the signal was very Q5 and pretty
impressive at about 22:00 UT.  I tried calling a bunch of CQs up 2
khz, but had no takers. I'll be on tonight a bit more.

73

Dave K1WHS

On 12/11/2019 10:48 PM, Roger Kennedy wrote:
Not sure what conditions are like, but I hope we'll get a few stations 
on

tonight !

73 Roger G3YRO

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Re: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night

2019-12-11 Thread David Olean
I heard G4EIM/QRP  calling AA1K and the signal was very Q5 and pretty 
impressive at about 22:00 UT.  I tried calling a bunch of CQs up 2 khz, 
but had no takers. I'll be on tonight a bit more.


73

Dave K1WHS

On 12/11/2019 10:48 PM, Roger Kennedy wrote:

Not sure what conditions are like, but I hope we'll get a few stations on
tonight !

73 Roger G3YRO

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Topband: Wednesday 160m DX CW Activity Night

2019-12-11 Thread Roger Kennedy


Not sure what conditions are like, but I hope we'll get a few stations on
tonight !

73 Roger G3YRO

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Re: Topband: Topband relays

2019-12-11 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist




On 12/11/2019 5:13 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:



Not relevant to my topband setup, but For the high-impedance (ladder line) side 
of my switching, I use open-frame relays with the contacts pried a little 
further apart than stock. Example part is the McMaster Carr 7384K14. N6RK 
outlines the process of widening the contacts in the May 2009 QST Hints and 
Kinks.

Tim N3QE


Postscript to my QST article from 10 years ago:

Modifying relays this way increases the pull-in voltage.
Depending on how much design margin the relay has,
and depending on how much the contacts have been
opened up, it may be necessary to boost the coil voltage
momentarily.  To implement this, you can repurpose
a T/R relay "speed up" circuit, such as this one
designed by Tony, K1KP and described by Bob, K6XX:

http://www.k6xx.com/radio/fastrely.html

The nice thing about this circuit is that it
doesn't require an auxiliary power supply voltage
that is higher than the normal relay coil
drive voltage.  Extremely elegant IMHO.

Will this drive circuit, you have the luxury of
overkilling the contact spacing so there is no
concern about arcing.  It is hard to say just how
much contact spacing is "enough".

Not mentioned in the write-up is that contact bounce
will establish the ultimate limit as to how fast the
relay can close, regardless of how much boost is
applied to the relay coil.

In any event, once the modified relay does pull in,
the holding force is the same as it was before the
relay was modified.

Rick N6RK

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Topband: Topband relays

2019-12-11 Thread Tim Shoppa
Continuing from N4ZR’s relay thread and Rob’s observation:

For low impedance (50 ohm ballpark) side switching, I went to Struthers Dunn 
(now P&B) DPDT T92 relays with paralleled 30A contacts. I got a big boy 
legal-limit amp and have been COMPLETELY happy with these at legal limit. 
Several hundred thousand QSO's through these relays without a problem. These 
are the "low impedance" side of my tuner switching.

Many vendors use PCB relays at legal limit “, and I’ve tried these, but I have 
found these to never survive legal limit RTTY contesting. They may be OK at CW 
or SSB duty cycles.

What I ended up using was much beefier relays. I went to Struthers Dunn (now 
P&B) DPDT T92 relays with paralleled 30A contacts. I got a bigger legal-limit 
amp and have been COMPLETEY happy with these at legal limit. Over a hundred 
thousand QSO's through these new relays without a problem. These are the "low 
impedance" side of my tuner switching.

Not relevant to my topband setup, but For the high-impedance (ladder line) side 
of my switching, I use open-frame relays with the contacts pried a little 
further apart than stock. Example part is the McMaster Carr 7384K14. N6RK 
outlines the process of widening the contacts in the May 2009 QST Hints and 
Kinks.

Tim N3QE

> On Dec 11, 2019, at 7:38 AM, Rob Atkinson  wrote:
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> Actually, if you have a quarter wave driven element and you are
> disconnecting it at the feedpoint, your relay concern shouldn't be
> voltage so much as current.   Fast switching and large contact surface
> is more important than voltage handling.
> 
> 73
> Rob
> K5UJ
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Re: Topband: K9ay loop not performing

2019-12-11 Thread Raoul Coetzee via Topband
 Yes Rob, my TX vertical feedpoint was closer to 7 ohm before it being 
transformed to 50 ohm by means of a auto transformer style bottom coil and tap.
I have used a big fat relay with massive silver contacts, (it was used in a UPS 
to switch battery banks)  but with the actuator coil wires fed trough a choke. 
So the whole relay was at RF potential, that way you do not need to worry about 
coil/contact isolation spacing.
Raoul ZS1C

On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 2:38:50 PM GMT+2, Rob Atkinson 
 wrote:  
 
 Actually, if you have a quarter wave driven element and you are
disconnecting it at the feedpoint, your relay concern shouldn't be
voltage so much as current.  Fast switching and large contact surface
is more important than voltage handling.

73
Rob
K5UJ
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Re: Topband: K9ay loop not performing

2019-12-11 Thread Rob Atkinson
Actually, if you have a quarter wave driven element and you are
disconnecting it at the feedpoint, your relay concern shouldn't be
voltage so much as current.   Fast switching and large contact surface
is more important than voltage handling.

73
Rob
K5UJ
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