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[Andree DL8LAS via Topband]

hey topbanders,

condx were not bad this morning in EU, worked some NA and a new DXCC 6Y5. 
Band was very quiet, but not much activity. 160m season is not finished.

73 Andy DL8LAS 


www.dl8las.com
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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz)

[Jim Brown]

On 3/26/2020 12:32 PM, Wayne wrote:
Things like broken hardware, etc. in antenna structures come to mind, 
especially considering the reported sensitivity to wind.


AND -- not necessarily part of the station. Could be almost any junction 
of conductors of a length that forms a good RX and TX antenna. When I 
lived in Chicago, I regularly heard the second harmonic of 780 kHz 50kW 
WBBM, 18 miles from me.


It's also possible for IM to be generated in the output stage of nearby 
transmitters in the same frequency range. 50kW stations WGN, WMAQ, WJJD, 
and WCFL (some different calls today) are only 1.5 miles, 4.3 miles, 9 
miles, and 12 miles from WBBM, respectively.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz), St. Catharines ON

[Roy Morgan]

Dave and other Topbanders,

I plan to do some listening from here in Western Mass, USA (Near the junction 
of NH/VT/MA).  The wind speed here is expected to peak tomorrow afternoon at 10 
MPH,  maybe not enough to jangle what’s loose in Canada.  Is this Saint 
Catherine in Quebec?  Near Niagra Falls someone mentioned.  10 MPH there or 
below till Sunday’s high of 15 MPH.

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:32 PM, David Olean  wrote:
> 
> I was hearing the St Catherine station very loud on 1830, but with 
> intermittent periods where it would dropout. This was at a time with high 
> winds in the NE.   

I have not yet heard it, but do I remember correctly that the 1830 *harmonic* 
of a station on 610 would sound very strange and muffled because the 
sidebands/audio wold be multiplied as harmonic also?

> I tried to find CKTB and it is on the same frequency as a local station in NH 
> on 610.

I am in Western Mass and so that NH station on 610 may be strong here (at night 
at least).  I finally found (on Wikipedia!) that the NH station on 610 is at 
Manchester, NH.  Their website does not reveal their location or address that I 
can find.

> If I had a local rectification problem, it would involve the strongest local 
> stations and not something I can hardly copy.  

Yes, I agree.  That makes good sense.

> All I see is the 3rd harmonic of the 610 Canadian station.

It occurred to me to check my memory on this.  If the fundamental is on 610, 
isn’t 1220 the first harmonic, and 1860 the second harmonic?  It has been some 
time since I had that straight in my mind.  Maybe the fundamental multiplied by 
two is the second harmonic.

In this very much stay-at-home time here, I look forward to some radio 
listening.

Roy

Roy Morgan
K1LKY since 1958
k1lk...@gmail.com




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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz)

[Wayne]

As a one-time broadcast engineer at a high power FM station, I believe 
whoever in responsible for performance will want to know what is 
happening --  management, not so much. Reports going back several years 
raise questions, though. A search says that CKTB is a 10K/5K day, night 
station.  Not a lot of power, but still problems can occur.


The people to talk to are the engineering staff or contract engineering 
people. They may not have engineering people on staff, depending on 
Industry Canada regulations. They will/should definitely want to know, 
however - unless CKTB doesn't pay promptly. Things like broken hardware, 
etc. in antenna structures come to mind, especially considering the 
reported sensitivity to wind. It's not a local problem if you're 400 
miles away. Such faults can create spurs as well as modulation problems.


--N7NG

On 3/26/2020 1:00 PM, DXer wrote:
>>Maybe some of our two trillion dollar aid package can be sent to 
Canada. Perhaps a mere $100,000 would let them replace their 
troublesome guy wires with commercial grade Phillystran.


This pandemic is very serious business. I would not waste any money 
uselessly. Tragically, a lot more money than we can print will be 
needed after all is said and done.


As for CKTB, being so close to the border, it's likely covered by 
international treaty. A call to the FCC may be all that is needed on 
your side.



73 de Vince, VA3VF
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Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz)

[DXer]

>>Maybe some of our two trillion dollar aid package can be sent to 
Canada. Perhaps a mere $100,000 would let them replace their troublesome 
guy wires with commercial grade Phillystran.


This pandemic is very serious business. I would not waste any money 
uselessly. Tragically, a lot more money than we can print will be needed 
after all is said and done.


As for CKTB, being so close to the border, it's likely covered by 
international treaty. A call to the FCC may be all that is needed on 
your side.



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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz), St. Catharines ON

[David Olean]

Good question Roy

I was hearing the St Catherine station very loud on 1830, but with 
intermittent periods where it would dropout. This was at a time with 
high winds in the NE.  I suspected that it might be a problem at my 
shack, so I tried to find CKTB and it is on the same frequency as a 
local station in NH on 610.  I can hardly hear it on my radio due to 
interference from that local station. It was about S9 or -70 dBm as near 
as I could tell with a beverage receiving antenna, but there are many 
more stations that are at -40 or even -30 dBm coming in at the same 
time. There is a local station in the next town, 8 miles distant that is 
on 930 MHz. I do hear a very weak 2nd harmonic of it on 1860. It is not 
much of a problem compared to the station in Canada many hundreds of 
miles away. If I had a local rectification problem, it would involve the 
strongest local stations and not something I can hardly copy. Still, I 
wondered at first and then made some measurements looking for other 
distortion/rectification problems. All I see is the 3rd harmonic of the 
610 Canadian station.


73

Dave K1WHS

On 3/26/2020 4:36 PM, Roy Morgan wrote:

Is it possible that the interference is being generated not by the transmitter 
but rather by bad connections in power lines or utility pole guy wires nearer 
to you?

Some driving around with a portable radio with loop stick antenna might reveal 
or confirm the location of the signals.

Hams in the past have discovered that TVI was caused not by their transmitter 
but rather by their own gutters, downspouts or wire yard fences.

Roy Morgan
K1LKY Western Mass


On Mar 26, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Rick ve3mm  wrote:
The spurious signal on 1830 khz seems to occur when
it is windy in the area and appears to becoming more frequent.

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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz), St. Catharines ON

[Roy Morgan]

John and others,

Yes, I now see reports from far from the station.  
Clearly my comments about causes local to the one nearby ham reporting 
interference do not apply

I will listen myself tonight.

Maybe some of our two trillion dollar aid package can be sent to Canada.  
Perhaps a mere $100,000 would let them replace their troublesome guy wires with 
commercial grade Phillystran.

Roy

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 1:34 PM, John K9UWA  wrote:
> 
> Notce Roy that a second report from W8 land also was hearing this 3rd 
> harmonic... its the radio station problem... not the ham's problem...
> 
> And yes I also heard it from Northern Indiana
> John k9uwa
> 
> 
> On 26 Mar 2020 at 12:36, Roy Morgan wrote:
> 
>> Is it possible that the interference is being generated not by the 
>> transmitter
>> but rather by bad connections in power lines or utility pole guy wires 
>> nearer to
>> you?

Roy Morgan
K1LKY since 1958
k1lk...@gmail.com




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Re: Topband: Last comment.

[g3nkc via Topband]

I find it very Surprising that someone just happens to discover such a prized 
card, with my average 160m score I would never have "misplaced" such a valuable 
card.Also, given that the card was apparently misplaced, and that it is not in 
the uploaded logs too, I start to smell a rat.Not to mention, wasn't it Jarda 
that was proud at one time to publish his cards, but no more, one his set was 
open to wider scrutiny  (ie the C21XF story...)73Dave G3NKC Sent from Samsung 
tablet.
 Original message From: DXer  Date: 
26/03/2020  13:50  (GMT+00:00) To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 
Last comment. I'll not ask to see a scan of the card because that may not be 
conclusive and it's not my 'job' to decide, but I'm still curious to know the 
reason for a QSL card "appraisal" request if not to ask for credit. It simply 
does not 'compute' that a ham who has pursued the number 1 spot for so long 
will not want to add one more credit to his total.After reading the "Last 
comment", I'm also curious as to why you are still pursuing this matter. The 
DXCC desk 'saved' you the 'embarrassment' of being associated with a 'totally 
discredited' program. Enjoy your 'achievements', they matter to you only 
anyways."DX done the old way"? I may not have been a ham as long as you, but 
I've seen, read, and heard enough about some of the 'old ways'.All the best.73 
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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz), St. Catharines ON

[Don Kirk]

Hi Roy,

Numerous stations in Canada and the US are encountering the same RFI
(originating from the same station near Niagara Falls).  In recent years we
have encountered similar RFI on 160 meters from an AM broadcast station in
New Jersey as well as one in Kentucky that had spurious emissions up on 160
meters, and this looks like another classic case of that.  I also have
directional RX receive antennas on 160 meters that indicate the direction
of the signal.

The New Jersey AM broadcast station RFI mentioned above was an interesting
one in that the AM station was using a very low power back up transmitter
that was only running 6 watts, and its spurs on 160 meters were producing
strong signals in the Midwestern states (S7 at my location near
Indianapolis).

Just FYI,
Don (wd8dsb)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:36 PM Roy Morgan  wrote:

> Is it possible that the interference is being generated not by the
> transmitter but rather by bad connections in power lines or utility pole
> guy wires nearer to you?
>
> Some driving around with a portable radio with loop stick antenna might
> reveal or confirm the location of the signals.
>
> Hams in the past have discovered that TVI was caused not by their
> transmitter but rather by their own gutters, downspouts or wire yard
> fences.
>
> Roy Morgan
> K1LKY Western Mass
>
> > On Mar 26, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Rick ve3mm 
> wrote:
> > The spurious signal on 1830 khz seems to occur when
> > it is windy in the area and appears to becoming more frequent.
>
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Re: Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz), St. Catharines ON

[Roy Morgan]

Is it possible that the interference is being generated not by the transmitter 
but rather by bad connections in power lines or utility pole guy wires nearer 
to you?

Some driving around with a portable radio with loop stick antenna might reveal 
or confirm the location of the signals.  

Hams in the past have discovered that TVI was caused not by their transmitter 
but rather by their own gutters, downspouts or wire yard fences. 

Roy Morgan
K1LKY Western Mass

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Rick ve3mm  wrote:
> The spurious signal on 1830 khz seems to occur when
> it is windy in the area and appears to becoming more frequent.
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Topband: Spurious transmissions on 1830 khz by CKTB (610 kHz), St. Catharines ON

[Rick ve3mm]

My qth is St. Catharines ON.

The spurious transmissions from CKTB have been occurring sporadically since
the summer of 2019.   The spurious signal on 1830 khz seems to occur when
it is windy in the area and appears to becoming more frequent.

On Friday March 20 around 0100Z the spurious signal was S9 plus 20 on 1830
khz and it wiped out the band from 1825 to 1835.  They were perfect copy on
AM and I did hear the station callsign announcement as CKTB.

In the last week I have complained to the station itself and to Industry
Canada (our version of the FCC).  IC has acknowledged my complaint and said
they would look into it.

I recommend that if you are affected by this spurious signal that you
register a complaint with the FCC and hopefully they will pressure Industry
Canada to force the station to make repairs.

73
Rick ve3mm
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Re: Topband: Last night on 160

[Don Kirk]

Hi Dave,

I too was shooting blind when I called CKTB this morning.  I was able to
leave Bonnie Heslop a Voice mail message.  Bonnie is the News Director and
Announcer at that station and she is the person announcing in my
recording.  I also sent them an e-mail with my contact info and link to my
RFI video from last night.

Just FYI,
Don (wd8dsb)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM David Olean  wrote:

>
> Hello 160 ops,
>
> I tried a telephone call to all the numbers for CKTB, but there is no way
> to leave a messagee unless you know the name of someone there on the
> directory list. There is no receptionist to answer the phone during the
> day. I left my second e mail with contact information, but have yet to get
> any response. I'll try the FCC if I do not hear from them in a day or two.
>
> Dave  K1WHS
> On 3/26/2020 2:07 PM, Don Kirk wrote:
>
> Hi Dave and gang,
>
> Here is a link to a youtube video from last nights reception of the 610
> KHz AM broadcast station in Canada that was causing RFI on 1.830 KHz.
> https://youtu.be/SeL4TcnkWN8
>
> I have now encountered this interference 3 nights this week, always around
> 10:30 PM EDT (0230 UTC).  I will also try contacting this station to file a
> complaint as my recording provides enough evidence that it's indeed CKTB
> (recorded the announcers name and their frequency, etc.).  This station is
> 413 miles from my location.
>
> 73,
> Don (wd8dsb)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:44 PM David Olean  wrote:
>
>> That is good. I will see what happens when I call them. I suspect they
>> will do nothing as there is probably no engineer on staff.   A  VE3 ham
>> told me that this station is notorious in that area!
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Dave K1WHS
>> On 3/26/2020 2:39 AM, Don Kirk wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I’m copying phone station again on 1830.0 KHz and tonight the audio is
>> good copy (not distorted tonight).  Station advertisements are Canadian and
>> they did say they are on 610.  Time once again is 10:30 EDT 0230 UTC, and I
>> once again recorded it.
>>
>> Don (wd8dsb)
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:33 PM Don Kirk  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> I’m hearing bursts of distorted audio right now on 1830.0 KHZ (it comes
>>> and goes).  Bursts peak about 10db over my noise floor.
>>>
>>> I’m hearing it on my pennant pointing 40 degrees from near Indianapolis
>>> (02:30UTC).
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:43 PM David Olean  wrote:
>>>
 I turned on my 160 meter radio around 0100 UT on the 21st, and was
 greeted by a huge level of noise on 1830. It wasn't too long before I
 realized that I was listening to an AM BC station. Audio was distorted,
 but I could copy the ads and they all referred to Buffalo and St.
 Catherines, Canada.  They finally identified as CKTB AM 610, so I was
 hearing the third harmonic and it was over S9 on my west and NW
 beverages! It also was cutting in and out, no doubt from the high winds
 near Toronto.

 I tuned it in on my BC band aircraft receiver and the  main signal on
 610 kHz was loud, but being interfered with by other stations on that
 frequency. It was not a bodacious signal by any means, so I do not
 suspect a problem in my back yard. There are plenty of louder stations
 that I did not hear. Being a third harmonic, the signal was wide at
 1830
 and quite distorted. It covered 20 to 30 kHz of bandwidth.  I e mailed
 the station but have heard nothing back. I tried calling but the
 offices
 were closed when I called last night.  Did anyone else hear this?

 Dave K1WHS


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Re: Topband: Last night on 160

[David Olean]

Hello 160 ops,

I tried a telephone call to all the numbers for CKTB, but there is no 
way to leave a messagee unless you know the name of someone there on the 
directory list. There is no receptionist to answer the phone during the 
day. I left my second e mail with contact information, but have yet to 
get any response. I'll try the FCC if I do not hear from them in a day 
or two.


Dave  K1WHS

On 3/26/2020 2:07 PM, Don Kirk wrote:

Hi Dave and gang,

Here is a link to a youtube video from last nights reception of the 
610 KHz AM broadcast station in Canada that was causing RFI on 1.830 
KHz. https://youtu.be/SeL4TcnkWN8


I have now encountered this interference 3 nights this week, always 
around 10:30 PM EDT (0230 UTC).  I will also try contacting this 
station to file a complaint as my recording provides enough evidence 
that it's indeed CKTB (recorded the announcers name and their 
frequency, etc.).  This station is 413 miles from my location.


73,
Don (wd8dsb)



On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:44 PM David Olean > wrote:


That is good. I will see what happens when I call them. I suspect
they will do nothing as there is probably no engineer on staff.  
A  VE3 ham told me that this station is notorious in that area!

Thanks again

Dave K1WHS

On 3/26/2020 2:39 AM, Don Kirk wrote:

Hi Dave,

I’m copying phone station again on 1830.0 KHz and tonight the
audio is good copy (not distorted tonight).  Station
advertisements are Canadian and they did say they are on 610. 
Time once again is 10:30 EDT 0230 UTC, and I once again recorded it.

Don (wd8dsb)

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:33 PM Don Kirk mailto:wd8...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Dave,

I’m hearing bursts of distorted audio right now on 1830.0 KHZ
(it comes and goes).  Bursts peak about 10db over my noise floor.

I’m hearing it on my pennant pointing 40 degrees from near
Indianapolis (02:30UTC).

Don

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:43 PM David Olean
mailto:k1...@metrocast.net>> wrote:

I turned on my 160 meter radio around 0100 UT on the
21st, and was
greeted by a huge level of noise on 1830. It wasn't too
long before I
realized that I was listening to an AM BC station. Audio
was distorted,
but I could copy the ads and they all referred to Buffalo
and St.
Catherines, Canada.  They finally identified as CKTB AM
610, so I was
hearing the third harmonic and it was over S9 on my west
and NW
beverages! It also was cutting in and out, no doubt from
the high winds
near Toronto.

I tuned it in on my BC band aircraft receiver and the 
main signal on
610 kHz was loud, but being interfered with by other
stations on that
frequency. It was not a bodacious signal by any means, so
I do not
suspect a problem in my back yard. There are plenty of
louder stations
that I did not hear. Being a third harmonic, the signal
was wide at 1830
and quite distorted. It covered 20 to 30 kHz of
bandwidth.  I e mailed
the station but have heard nothing back. I tried calling
but the offices
were closed when I called last night.  Did anyone else
hear this?

Dave K1WHS


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Topband: 9 circle and Beverage arrays modelling comparisons

[VE6WZ_Steve]

Yesterday I uploaded another YouTube video to my RX antenna series.

Using 4NEC2, both single-wire and broadside phased Beverage arrays are modelled 
to study the RDF and forward beam-width. The 9 circle vertical array is 
compared to both single and broadside Beverage arrays and the advantages of 
each are discussed. The RDF metric is explained and examples are shown how even 
small RDF improvements can enhance weak signal copy.

Video link here: https://youtu.be/I-Q0JU3h--4 


73, de steve ve6wz
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Re: Topband: Last night on 160

[Don Kirk]

Hi Dave and gang,

Here is a link to a youtube video from last nights reception of the 610 KHz
AM broadcast station in Canada that was causing RFI on 1.830 KHz.
https://youtu.be/SeL4TcnkWN8

I have now encountered this interference 3 nights this week, always around
10:30 PM EDT (0230 UTC).  I will also try contacting this station to file a
complaint as my recording provides enough evidence that it's indeed CKTB
(recorded the announcers name and their frequency, etc.).  This station is
413 miles from my location.

73,
Don (wd8dsb)



On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:44 PM David Olean  wrote:

> That is good. I will see what happens when I call them. I suspect they
> will do nothing as there is probably no engineer on staff.   A  VE3 ham
> told me that this station is notorious in that area!
>
> Thanks again
>
> Dave K1WHS
> On 3/26/2020 2:39 AM, Don Kirk wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I’m copying phone station again on 1830.0 KHz and tonight the audio is
> good copy (not distorted tonight).  Station advertisements are Canadian and
> they did say they are on 610.  Time once again is 10:30 EDT 0230 UTC, and I
> once again recorded it.
>
> Don (wd8dsb)
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:33 PM Don Kirk  wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I’m hearing bursts of distorted audio right now on 1830.0 KHZ (it comes
>> and goes).  Bursts peak about 10db over my noise floor.
>>
>> I’m hearing it on my pennant pointing 40 degrees from near Indianapolis
>> (02:30UTC).
>>
>> Don
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:43 PM David Olean  wrote:
>>
>>> I turned on my 160 meter radio around 0100 UT on the 21st, and was
>>> greeted by a huge level of noise on 1830. It wasn't too long before I
>>> realized that I was listening to an AM BC station. Audio was distorted,
>>> but I could copy the ads and they all referred to Buffalo and St.
>>> Catherines, Canada.  They finally identified as CKTB AM 610, so I was
>>> hearing the third harmonic and it was over S9 on my west and NW
>>> beverages! It also was cutting in and out, no doubt from the high winds
>>> near Toronto.
>>>
>>> I tuned it in on my BC band aircraft receiver and the  main signal on
>>> 610 kHz was loud, but being interfered with by other stations on that
>>> frequency. It was not a bodacious signal by any means, so I do not
>>> suspect a problem in my back yard. There are plenty of louder stations
>>> that I did not hear. Being a third harmonic, the signal was wide at 1830
>>> and quite distorted. It covered 20 to 30 kHz of bandwidth.  I e mailed
>>> the station but have heard nothing back. I tried calling but the offices
>>> were closed when I called last night.  Did anyone else hear this?
>>>
>>> Dave K1WHS
>>>
>>>
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Re: Topband: Feedline Grounding and Feedline Chokes

[pa5mw--- via Topband]

About a simple Bulkhead-Entry-Point. A success at lowering man-made local
noise for me.
This is a simple solution I use successfully at home:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pa5mw/28796976750/in/album-72157667970861390/

73
Mark PA5MW

-Original Message-
From: Topband  On Behalf Of
Bob K6ZZ
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 23:24 PM
To: topband 
Subject: Topband: Feedline Grounding and Feedline Chokes

Folks,

I see a lot of references to grounding coaxial feedlines at the top of
towers, bottom of towers, and at house entry points.  Is this purely for
static and lightening protection purposes or does it also help mitigate
Common Mode problems as well?

If feedlines are well grounded, are chokes still useful for controlling
Common Modes problems?  I suspect that both can be used, and should be used,
in a well designed station.

Are there specific recommendations on the use of chokes on grounded
feedlines?  Does placement matter?

Thanks, Bob K6ZZ
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Topband: Last comment.

[DXer]

I'll not ask to see a scan of the card because that may not be 
conclusive and it's not my 'job' to decide, but I'm still curious to 
know the reason for a QSL card "appraisal" request if not to ask for 
credit. It simply does not 'compute' that a ham who has pursued the 
number 1 spot for so long will not want to add one more credit to his total.


After reading the "Last comment", I'm also curious as to why you are 
still pursuing this matter. The DXCC desk 'saved' you the 
'embarrassment' of being associated with a 'totally discredited' 
program. Enjoy your 'achievements', they matter to you only anyways.


"DX done the old way"? I may not have been a ham as long as you, but 
I've seen, read, and heard enough about some of the 'old ways'.


All the best.

73 de Vince, VA3VF

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Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity

[Rob Atkinson]

It is indeed true that variations in liquid soil moisture will
dramatically affect ground system performance and base fed vertical
impedance when an on, or below grade ground system is used.  Frozen
ground moisture is on a par with dry ground.  This is one of the
reasons for going beyond the point-of-diminishing-returns number of
radials--the more radials used, the more stable the feedpoint Z is,
over varying soil moisture in the radial field.   Antenna efficiency
is related to radiation resistance relative to the ground system.  If
you have a short vertical (inverted L) with a low resistance that you
cannot increase, you can improve it by lowering the ground resistance
by employing more radials.

73
Rob
K5UJ
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Topband: Last comment

[Jarda]

If any of the DXmans would be in the mood to read the facts about my 
"exclusion" from the ARRL, then please read my page section. Here you 
will find facts supported by correspondence. We all know, that the DXCC 
program is totally discredited by the use of remote stations situated 
near the DX expedition and that for both RXing and TXing. It's the 
twilight of DXing that the commission doesn't know how to deal with. I 
personally appreciate achieving my result after a lifetime of efforts to 
build QTHs. A few envious Hams at the head of W4xx can't spoil the joy 
of my personal result. The above, in line with our saying "Kaji water 
drinks wine", used my QTH remote to work with DX expeditions in the 
Indian Ocean region as recently as 20 years ago. Nothing new under the 
sun, then. I personally now devote myself to a 60m zone that is not 
under the influence of the DXCC commission. Lots of nice DXs to all but 
done the old way.


73 Jarda, OK1RD

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