Re: Topband: BOG - Selecting the Optimum Length

[Kip Edwards]

Mark,

The BOG here is 190 feet.  It works very well and is quite directional. 
 As a result of my experience so far, I'm thinking of a second one for the 
other directions.

73 Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mark K3MSB
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 8:35 AM
To: Lloyd - N9LB
Cc: topBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: BOG - Selecting the Optimum Length

Based upon N9LB’s comments,  I just emailed Bruce and told him to hold my order 
for a KB-1.

I have just enough room for 200 ft for a BOG.   Extending it to 250, 290
feet etc is NOT an option for me.

From my reading,  I understood that 200 feet was not exact,  but I didn’t
expect it to be 250 to 290 feet.   If I had known that I would not have
even considered a BOG.

With the cable, KB-1 etc (my BOG will be unidirectional to EU only,  not 
bidirectional),  I really don’t want to invest close to $200 on an antenna
that will not do any better on RX than my Inverted-L.Saving it for a
Hi-Z 3 may be the better option.

So, with only 200 feet to play with,  is it worth it?

I've no doubt BOGs work,  I may not have the room for them.

73 Mark K3MSB

On Oct 17, 2016 9:35 AM, "Lloyd - N9LB"  wrote:

> I have been asked how I arrived at the 290 foot BOG length.
>
> My original 200 foot BOG had a good F/B on 80m but showed almost no 
> directivity on 160m, so this indicated to me that the BOG needed to be 
> longer to improve the 160m performance with my particular soil 
> conditions and environment.
>
> A search on the Internet produced recommendations for 160m BOG lengths 
> of
> 247 to 290 feet.  Knowing that I could always shorten the wire, I went 
> with the longer number as a starting point.  That produced a greatly 
> improved 15 to 20 dB Front-to-Back ratio.
>
> The 290 foot length was not chosen for a good match, but that length 
> just happened to result in a good match.
>
> Unfortunately, I did not measure the match on my 200 ft BOG before it 
> was dismantled.
>
> The optimum 160m BOG length in your environment might be much 
> different from what I found at my QTH.
>
> - - - I think the group would benefit from hearing what others have 
> found to be their optimum BOG lengths - - -
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lloyd - N9LB
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:06 PM
> To: 'Topband' 
> Subject: Re: Topband: BOG
>
> My Reversible Bog uses the KD9SV transformer set.  It was originally 
> 200 feet long, just increased to 290 feet and that made a very 
> significant improvement on 160m front-to-back ratio, but hurt 80m performance.
>
> Conditions here are:
> Wire run across a weedy field, as close to ground as possible (weeds 
> trampled down to allow the wire to be close to ground - mostly 2-4 
> inches above the actual ground).  Soil is a few inches of decent dirt, 
> about one to two feet of clay, about one to two feet of sand, and then 
> bedrock.  Tops of the five foot ground rods can't be driven completely 
> below the ground's surface.
>
> WX - a wetter than normal Summer and Fall here in Southern Wisconsin.
>
> My Antenna Analyzer shows a 1.45 : 1 match at 1825 KHz ( 75 ohm system ).
>
> I can send the analyzer plots to anyone that is interested.
>
> 73
>
> Lloyd - N9LB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charles Moizeau
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:20 PM
> To: Lloyd - N9LB ; Topband 
> 
> Subject: Re: Topband: BOG
>
> Thanks Lloyd,
>
> But pls tell us your wire height and approximate description of gnd 
> condx for your otherwise well-described bog.
>
> 73,
>
> Charles W2SH
> 
> From: Topband  on behalf of Lloyd - 
> N9LB 
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 7:15 PM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: BOG
>
> Hello Tony!
>
> Ground conditions and wire height above ground make a huge difference 
> in best length.
>
> I found the optimum for my BOG, using WD-1A wire and operating at 1825 
> KHz, at my QTH is 290 feet.
>
> 73
>
> Lloyd - N9LB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> N2TK, Tony
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 5:15 PM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: BOG
>
> Stretched out 200' of WD-1A along a stone wall. Kept it about 2" above 
> the ground and right up against the stones. Fed it with a 300 ohm 
> secondary transformer and left the far end unterminated.
>
> Used the MFJ-259 to sweep the bands starting at 1.67 MHZ.  Saw on K1FZ 
> notes that to find the best single wire length for 160M is to sweep 
> the bands and check where the SWR goes to a low value and stays there.
>
> I couldn't find that frequency. I get dips at
>
> 2.58 MHZ 

Re: Topband: ET7L NOT VALID

[Kip Edwards]

All,

There was some confusion at ARRL about ET7L.  It was among the cards I 
submitted at the recent PNWDXC in Portland.  My application was acted upon 
quickly and according to the online LOTW account it was not credited.  However, 
when I received the hard copy credit slip and credit listing it was credited.

I brought this to the attention of the DXCC Desk and was advised of the 
following in an email just received:

The ET7L contact is not acceptable for DXCC credit.  Any credit 
which was erroneously given has since been removed from every 
DXCC customers’ record.  We discovered there was a problem with 
the Online DXCC program issuing credit for the call.  Once I 
had figured this out, we made the necessary changes in the 
system.

73 Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Lawson 
N6RW
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:47 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: ET7L NOT VALID

I submitted my cards with some others and my returned DXCC Award Credit Slip 
showed the ET7L cards _were _accepted.  Now, when I look on-line, they are _not 
_included in the "Granted" list.


On 8/11/2016 5:09 AM, Victor Goncharsky via Topband wrote:
>   Larry,
> The documents have been sent to:  n...@arrl.org : and  w1...@arrl.org
>
>
>> Четверг, 11 августа 2016, 12:43 +01:00 от Larry :
>>
>> The main e-mail address for the DXCC desk went to someone who is no 
>> longer there for a long time and no one else looked at the mail for 
>> that ID. I don't know if it has been fixed. I mentioned it in phone 
>> call with the DXCC desk earlier this year.
>>
>> 73, Larry  W6NWS
>> On 8/11/2016 6:53 AM, Victor Goncharsky via Topband wrote:
>>> Frank,
>>> Being asked by ET7L crew, I have personally sent the scanned documents to 
>>> ARRL Hq on on June 30!
>>> This includes their ham license which, actually, is the part of their work 
>>> permit-agreement issued by the Ministery which is, as I understand, is 
>>> powerful enough to authorise ham radio operation from ET.
>>> The ET7L crew, in fact has been trying to get in touch with ARRL on the 
>>> matter in July, but got no response from Newington, their QSL manager US0LW 
>>> said.
>>> Frankly, this situation reminds me the 7O1YGF one.
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Среда, 10 августа 2016, 22:22 +01:00 от Frank Davis <  fda...@nfld.net >:
 Just found out today that ET7L operation is not valid.  My card submission 
 was rejected by the DXCC desk.  No reason give.

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Re: Topband: ET7L NOT VALID

[Kip Edwards]

All,

Regarding ET7L, I spoke with Dave, NN1N, last weekend at the Pacific
Northwest DX Convention about the status of the ET7L application.  In a
subsequent email, Dave said the following:  "We haven't made a decision re:
ET7L -- Their "license" isn't from the Ministry of Communications.  We are
communicating with them."

I submitted some cards at the convention, including an ET7L card.
It was not accepted, with no explanation.

73 Kip W6SZN


-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Davis
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:22 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Cc: jcr...@mun.ca
Subject: Topband: ET7L NOT VALID

Just found out today that ET7L operation is not valid.  My card submission
was rejected by the DXCC desk.  No reason give.

VO1HP
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Re: Topband: FT-1000MP

[Kip Edwards]

Hi Frank,

 

   Thank you very much for your detailed reply.  As I  noted, I 
don’t have a FT 1000MP but I will pass along your email to Andy and I know he 
will very much appreciate hearing from someone like yourself.  As I said once 
at a Contest University session, I’ll stay and listen to Frank as long as he’s 
willing to talk.

 

   73 Kip W6SZN

 

From: donov...@starpower.net [mailto:donov...@starpower.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:30 AM
To: Top Band Contesting; PVRC Submissions
Subject: Re: Topband: FT-1000MP

 

Hi Kip,

 

Your question involves perhaps the most frequently misunderstood

aspect of FT-1000MP receiver operation, a result of the poorly

written description of  Menu 8-4 on page 91 of the operating

manual.  A much better description and illustration of  pre-amplifier

selection menu 8-4 and the IPO front panel push button appears

on page 30 of the operating manual.   

 

Two controls must be properly set to optimize FT-1000MP receiver

front-end performance on 160, 80 and 40 meters: Attenuator and

IPO.  When IPO is enabled, it bypasses the pre-amplifier selected

by Menu 8-4.

 

The FT-1000MP has three pre-amplifiers:

  - a 1.8 - 7 MHz pre-amplifier  (IPO should be enabled when

operating on 160, 80 and 40 meters to bypass this pre-amplifier)

  - a pre-amplifier with excellent sensitivity on 24 and 28 MHz

  - a wideband (FLAT) pre-amplifier with very poor 28 MHz sensitivity

 

The front panel IPO pushbutton bypasses the pre-amplifiers entirely,

feeding the antenna directly into the first mixer.  I always enable

IPO when operating on 160, 80 and 40 meters.

 

The Attenuator should be set to the highest setting while providing

acceptable receiver sensitivity.  I almost always set the attenuator

to 18 dB when operating on 160 meters.

 

I always set Menu 8-4 to TUNED, allowing the FT-1000MP to

automatically select the proper pre-amplifier for 12 and 10 meters,

I never use the 1,8-7 MHz preamplifier because I always enable

IPO when operating on those bands and I never set Menu 8-4 to FLAT.

 

73

Frank

W3LPL

 

 

 

 

 

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From: "Kip Edwards" <kedwa...@ltol.com>
To: "Top Band Contesting" <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:07:09 PM
Subject: Topband: FT-1000MP

All,

 

   I have been corresponding via email with Andy, SP6AEG,
regarding the 5J0P DXpedition and other topics.  This morning I received the
following question from Andy:

 

"I received from Janusz SP6IXF as  gift transceiver FT1000MP with a set of
filters in optional (2 kHz / 250 Hz) ssb / cw + roofing filter.  I have a
dilemma, do not know who Receiver Front-End RF Amplifier should be active
for optimal performance for 160 m.  I have a choice of flat or Tuned for low
band.  Do you have on this subject some knowledge?"

 

   Is there anyone on this reflector who can offer any help?  I
know nothing about the

FT 1000MP (among many other things) but I'd like to help Andy.

 

   Many thanks.

 

   73 Kip W6SZN



 

G. Kip Edwards

Telephone:  (206) 999-9403

email:  kedwa...@ltol.com

 

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Topband: FT-1000MP

[Kip Edwards]

All,

 

   I have been corresponding via email with Andy, SP6AEG,
regarding the 5J0P DXpedition and other topics.  This morning I received the
following question from Andy:

 

"I received from Janusz SP6IXF as  gift transceiver FT1000MP with a set of
filters in optional (2 kHz / 250 Hz) ssb / cw + roofing filter.  I have a
dilemma, do not know who Receiver Front-End RF Amplifier should be active
for optimal performance for 160 m.  I have a choice of flat or Tuned for low
band.  Do you have on this subject some knowledge?"

 

   Is there anyone on this reflector who can offer any help?  I
know nothing about the

FT 1000MP (among many other things) but I'd like to help Andy.

 

   Many thanks.

 

   73 Kip W6SZN



 

G. Kip Edwards

Telephone:  (206) 999-9403

email:  kedwa...@ltol.com

 

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Re: Topband: W8JI - recipient of the Yasme Excellence Award

[Kip Edwards]

Jim,

The Yasme Foundation website is being completely re-done by the
person who did the NCJ website.  Unfortunately our webmaster resigned and it
has taken some time and one false start to find someone capable of doing it
right.  In the meantime the website is embarrassing and, as you noted,
woefully out of date.

My apologies to all--and I'm glad you were able to find the press
release about Tom receiving the Yasme Excellence Award.

73 Kip W6SZN
Yasme Foundation Director/Secretary

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of James
Rodenkirch
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 5:19 AM
To: Top Band Contesting; w...@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: W8JI - recipient of the Yasme Excellence Award

Based on some snooping around @ the YASME site, it's obvious no one is
keeping that site up to date - tnx to Mike, W0Btu, for listing the ARRL url
link.

Also, I didn't intend to diss the other current recipients...Tim Duffy (who
I believe shows up here once in a while with comments) and Carole Perry (I
am not familiar with her efforts)...AND, as I understand from a recent post,
our very own Tree has garnered that recognition.BZ to all!

71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV

P.S. Hope to hear and work ya in the summer Stew...and sure HOPE you hear my
peanut whistle QRP signal...hihi 
From: James Rodenkirch
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:07 PM
To: Top Band Contesting; w...@contesting.com
Subject: W8JI - recipient of the Yasme Excellence Award

No more deserving...good on ya, Tom! I've enjoyed AND miss your technical
and "how to operate" posts.

Tom Rauch, W8JI: "The Yasme Excellence Award is made in recognition of Tom's
many contributions to the technical advancement of the Amateur Service," the
announcement said. "Tom's willingness to provide education and direction to
amateurs through his website and other communications is a prime example of
hams mentoring, teaching, and training each other in the finest traditions
of Amateur Radio."
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Kip Edwards]

Jim,

I think your diatribe in an apparent attempt to embarrass SP6AEG is
out of place in a public forum.  You have no idea of the his personal
circumstances, unless you chose to not disclose that you do.  The support of
DXpeditions such as VK0EK will continue to be a problem for all of us but
messages such as yours will not do a thing to help solve that problem.

I know you fairly well and I'm willing to write it off to your
having a bad day, perhaps tired after Visalia.  But I think you owe SP6AEG a
public apology.

73 Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 9:06 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
> Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 
> 10  for VK0EK.

Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!

> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does 
> not work, can I do something wrong?.

Did you not read the VK0EK website?  Early LOTW confirmations would be sent
to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I waited
until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send them $300.
That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but this was a VERY
expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you note from KK6EK's
XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.

> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/

It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing the size
of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.

> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 
> 160 m what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.

The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)

European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%.  EU got 2,372 Topband
Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them).  Many NA hams who DO contribute to
these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing EU stations
complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not sending money to
support the costs.  Most NA hams are retired, so when we send money it is
from our savings or our pensions.  Here's a partial list of the guys who
paid for your QSO.

https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: VK0EK Topband

[Kip Edwards]

The report from Washington:  at 1347 UTC UT6UD posted a note on the ON4KST
low band chat room that he was on 1818.5 calling CQ, listening down 1.
Nothing heard, either him or any stations calling.  At 1354 UTC JH2FXK
posted a note that VK0EK was on 1818.5.  Again nothing heard and no JAs
calling.  I stuck around until 1410 UTC and then gave up for the day.

73 Kip W6SZN

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 9:08 AM
To: 'TopBand'
Subject: Topband: VK0EK Topband

Nothing at all heard this morning. The only spot was from a JA at 1354Z, and
about 10 minutes later, I heard K6UM call a couple of times. And as I'm
writing this (1600Z), I see them spotted by RN6BN on 1833.5

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: Missing K1N 160m QSO records just uploaded to Clublog

[Kip Edwards]

Tree,

Keep checking.  I just (1852 UTC) looked at ClubLog and the 160 QSO
is now there.

73 Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:35 AM
To: kol...@rcn.com
Cc: 160
Subject: Re: Topband: Missing K1N 160m QSO records just uploaded to Clublog

Well - at least the QSOs I know of from 4-Feb never did show up in Club Log.
So I think the point is that there seems to be a large number of QSOs that
never made it to club log.

Tree N6TR (holding off on working them a second time since I have to get my
remote rig stuff setup again)

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:31 AM,  kol...@rcn.com wrote:

 I think the point was that if you NEVER saw your QSO in Clublog, work
again. If you saw it in Clublog before it's still in the logs on the island,
so you are OK.

 Kevin K3OX


 - Original Message -

 From: Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net
 To: Tree t...@kkn.net, Lloyd Berg N9LB lloydb...@charter.net
 Cc: 160 topband@contesting.com
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 12:55:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Topband: Missing K1N 160m QSO records just uploaded to 
 Clublog

 Tree,

 My 80 and 160m Feb 4 Q's are still not showing.
 Best thing is to work them again following their advice.

 Doug

 I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.

 -Original Message-

 This is good news - but still not seeing my call or ZL3IX who worked 
 him just before me.

 QSO was around 0930 on 4 Feb UTC.

 Others???

 Tree N6TR

 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Lloyd Berg  N9LB 
 lloydb...@charter.net
 wrote:
 All,

 They just uploaded the missing K1N 160m QSO records to Clublog site a 
 few minutes ago. ~ 7000 entries!

 ... including my missing 160m QSO :-)

 73

 Lloyd - N9LB



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Re: Topband: Missing K1N 160m QSO records just uploaded to Clublog

[Kip Edwards]

Tree,

QSO here was 2/4 at 0620 UTC.  QSO before mine was K7UT.  Neither
shows up in ClubLog.

73 Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:47 AM
To: Lloyd Berg N9LB
Cc: 160
Subject: Re: Topband: Missing K1N 160m QSO records just uploaded to Clublog

This is good news - but still not seeing my call or ZL3IX who worked him
just before me.

QSO was around 0930 on 4 Feb UTC.

Others???

Tree N6TR

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Lloyd Berg  N9LB lloydb...@charter.net
wrote:
 All,

 They just uploaded the missing K1N 160m QSO records to Clublog site a 
 few minutes ago. ~ 7000 entries!

 ... including my missing 160m QSO :-)

 73

 Lloyd - N9LB


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Re: Topband: UA9YAB - Silent Key

[Kip Edwards]

Greg,

The link didn't work--took me to a sorry page on Paypal.  I'd like
to contribute so I hope you have the correct link.

73, Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Greg Chartrand
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:58 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: UA9YAB - Silent Key

The PayPal link to donate to sending Sasha home is below.Greg

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=AfCpIKerl3pUVXKU-
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UA9YAB, Alexander A. Sasha Vedernikov, passed away August 11th.  It
is not exactly clear what the cause was as there are reports it was a
heart attack while swimming and another saying he drowned.  Alexander
was 50 years old and was on a DXpedition to Margarita Island, YV7/UA9YAB
and Los Roques, YV5/UA9YAB at the time.  A friend describes him as a
skilled and experienced operator on phone and CW.  He was known for
his operations from various former ex-Soviet republics and Mongolia.
His home in Biysk was near the Mongolian border.  He was active in
January as XU7AEQ in Cambodia.  Left behind are his wife Natalia and two
children, the youngest only three years old.  At QRZ.RU donations are
being accepted to raise the $30,000 to have his body returned to Russia
from Venezuela. 
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Greg Chartrand - W7MY 

Richland, WA.

DN-06IF

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