Re: Topband: Beverage guidance needed
Countless hams run their Beverages through woods. It's not going to hurt at all. Just do it! :-) http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Charles Yahrling cfytech2...@gmail.com wrote: Is it safe to say that an E-W Beverage or a BOG would be ineffective if the wire were run through a wooded area, with or without a narrow lane cut for it? _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Beverage guidance needed
Through the woods is ok. No cutting needed. If above ground, 580-600 length is good. If BOG, 200 feet is optimum length for 160 meters in most locations. If off ground, need to be high enough to prevent animal collisions. 73 Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html . On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:35:41 +, Charles Yahrling cfytech2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I'm doing some winter antenna daydreaming based on Low Band DXing and other sources. Is it safe to say that an E-W Beverage or a BOG would be ineffective if the wire were run through a wooded area, with or without a narrow lane cut for it? or is try it and find out the favored approach? My only semi site would be N-S along a property line along a road, directly across from power lines on conventional poles. E-W, reversible, would favor western europe and western US. My lot is a 5 acre wooded trapezoid so 500-600 feet would be max practical length. tnx in advance 73, chuck -- de AB1VL NAQCC #6799 ab1vl.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Beverage guidance needed
On Sat,2/14/2015 9:35 AM, Charles Yahrling wrote: Is it safe to say that an E-W Beverage or a BOG would be ineffective if the wire were run through a wooded area, with or without a narrow lane cut for it? or is try it and find out the favored approach? Nope. Many of us use Beverages run through the woods. Mine are mostly supported by low trees. The hazard is branches falling on them. 73, Jim K9YC _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Beverage guidance needed
I live in a redwood forest and canyon and run two relatively short 2-wire Beverages through the thick woods. In fact I have never had any better situation to contend with. Not only do the wires hang on trees but they change altitude over rough terrain over their lengths. There is no room for a radial field for a TX vertical and not much separation between antennas. One Bev even includes a dogleg from having to reroute it over a neighbor's property. Effective is a judgment word and in the eye of the beholder, but I have 231 counters in the log on 160. Don't get me wrong, it has taken over 20 years to get there, but I got there. I have always believed any Beverage was better than no Beverage--a truth imparted to me two decades ago by KN6J, an early local achiever of topband DXCC. Bevs are cheap to construct and easy to repair, which is a good thing because the forest kills them frequently. Yes, try it---what is there to lose? I believe K9YC has had a similar experience. Garry, NI6T On 2/14/2015 9:35 AM, Charles Yahrling wrote: Hey guys, I'm doing some winter antenna daydreaming based on Low Band DXing and other sources. Is it safe to say that an E-W Beverage or a BOG would be ineffective if the wire were run through a wooded area, with or without a narrow lane cut for it? or is try it and find out the favored approach? My only semi site would be N-S along a property line along a road, directly across from power lines on conventional poles. E-W, reversible, would favor western europe and western US. My lot is a 5 acre wooded trapezoid so 500-600 feet would be max practical length. tnx in advance 73, chuck _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Beverage guidance needed
The woods are probably the second most popular beverage location after the unused winter farm field :-) The only problems tend to be physical (falling branches breaking the wire, deer breaking the wire, etc). Make sure to use a fuse at one end of the wire so that an easy to fix part breaks instead of the antenna wire or supports. Your inevitable repair work will be lots easier this way. I usually use lightweight braided nylon cord for this purpose since it seems to hold up better in the weather than the twine does. Just make sure whatever you use will break well before the wire you use. -Bill KB8WYP Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Charles Yahrling cfytech2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I'm doing some winter antenna daydreaming based on Low Band DXing and other sources. Is it safe to say that an E-W Beverage or a BOG would be ineffective if the wire were run through a wooded area, with or without a narrow lane cut for it? or is try it and find out the favored approach? My only semi site would be N-S along a property line along a road, directly across from power lines on conventional poles. E-W, reversible, would favor western europe and western US. My lot is a 5 acre wooded trapezoid so 500-600 feet would be max practical length. tnx in advance 73, chuck -- de AB1VL NAQCC #6799 ab1vl.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Beverage guidance needed
Beverage antennas are so good that even if they needed repairs every single month, it would still all be worth it! I've had to repair them from time to time for various reasons, but not once did the thought ever occur to me that they're too much trouble. You'll understand after you have one. I should use such a fuse myself, but the electric fence wire they're made from is so strong that it's never broken yet. Just stretched a little once or twice. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net wrote: The only problems tend to be physical (falling branches breaking the wire, deer breaking the wire, etc). Make sure to use a fuse at one end of the wire so that an easy to fix part breaks instead of the antenna wire or supports. Your inevitable repair work will be lots easier this way. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
