Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Wes You got that right,you gotta walk a mile in the other guys shoes!! When I lived in New Hampshire working EU on 160 was a walk in the park compared to the kind of propagation we get down here in FL or what the guys out west have to EU ( I did a stint as N7EX for a while in Spokane) ... Dave NR1DX On 12/2/2020 6:52 PM, Wes wrote: You left out location, location, location...:-) Wes� N7WS On 12/1/2020 4:21 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Hi Nick, I have a limited setup, only an inverted L over an FCP on 160 (not like W3LPL's 160m 4 square cannon). With basically no time to operate, I managed about 60 minutes in three spells on 160m, 45 QSO's, 17 zones, 30 countries, all S I worked EU and AF in zones: 14: 4, 15: 7, 16: 1,� 20:1, 33: 1, 35: 1.� Not sure the 45/17/30 in one hour on 160 from a modest station allows room to blame things on the band. Good antenna for RX, and an EFFICIENT transmit antenna are always key to making it. These will be even MORE important for 160 success as we make our way into cycle 25. 160 seemed slow this time, but I didn't hear nearly as many stations on the band, weak *or* loud, as in the past. Think they were having too much fun on the higher bands in conditions which are most likely the opening round of solar cycle 25 propagation. Get ready to do DXCC on 6 meters this time around. 73, Guy K2AV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector -- Dave manu...@artekmanuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
You left out location, location, location...:-) Wes N7WS On 12/1/2020 4:21 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Hi Nick, I have a limited setup, only an inverted L over an FCP on 160 (not like W3LPL's 160m 4 square cannon). With basically no time to operate, I managed about 60 minutes in three spells on 160m, 45 QSO's, 17 zones, 30 countries, all S I worked EU and AF in zones: 14: 4, 15: 7, 16: 1, 20:1, 33: 1, 35: 1. Not sure the 45/17/30 in one hour on 160 from a modest station allows room to blame things on the band. Good antenna for RX, and an EFFICIENT transmit antenna are always key to making it. These will be even MORE important for 160 success as we make our way into cycle 25. 160 seemed slow this time, but I didn't hear nearly as many stations on the band, weak *or* loud, as in the past. Think they were having too much fun on the higher bands in conditions which are most likely the opening round of solar cycle 25 propagation. Get ready to do DXCC on 6 meters this time around. 73, Guy K2AV _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Yes. About 7 years ago, I bought a VNWA3E, designed by German EE prof DG8SAQ, built and sold by some hams in the UK. It runs on Tom's firmware and Windoze software, powered via the USB port that feeds data to the computer and controls the unit. It has an excellent TDR function -- you perform a wide frequency sweep, which it post-processes to perform an inverse FFT, yielding the TDR. Once the sweep has been made, it remains in memory, and five different windowing functions can be applied to yield the most informative view of the measurement. I recently used it to diagnose issues with RX antennas that occur annually with storms during what Californians laughingly call "winter." (All of our rainfall occurs between October and May.) Tom's software also includes very useful and versatile math functions that can be applied to traditional VNA data, and can be set to compute and display multiple data sets from each measurement. When tuning filters, for example, it can display the filter response as gain, return loss, and SWR, and each plot can be scaled as desired. I paid about $700 delivered to my door around 2013; thanks to Brexit, it's closer to $600. Build quality is excellent, and both Tom and the mfr read a support email reflector daily, responding as needed to issues. It's like the Elecraft reflector, with some very smart people, but with a lot less traffic. 73, Jim K9YC On 12/2/2020 8:26 AM, donov...@erols.com wrote: Its not that time consuming with modern, inexpensive tools like TDRs, VNAs and antenna analyzers. It costs much less to purchase all three than even the least expensive radio. _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Preventive maintenance methods should be employed to detect faults in contest stations and antennas before they impact competitive results. Its not that time consuming with modern, inexpensive tools like TDRs, VNAs and antenna analyzers. It costs much less to purchase all three than even the least expensive radio. Previously used feedlines should always be tested before putting them back into service, especially if there's any possibility that mice and other critters could have feasted on them. Ask VY2ZM... 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Michael Walker" To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 11:40:57 AM Subject: Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year Hi Jim My point on feedlines is that you can’t assume all is good. You do need to test and confirm. And chokes are a must. Mike va3mw > On Dec 1, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 12/1/2020 10:00 AM, Michael Walker wrote: >> - How old are your feedlines? Are 100% sure they are as good as the day >> you installed them? > > Another urban myth -- coax is degraded only 1) by the intrusion of moisture > into the dielectric, which occurs at poorly installed or poorly weatherproof > connectors or with physical damage to the outer jacket; or 2) UV breakdown to > a non-UV-resistant jacket. > >> - Noise -- did you know that 80% of the low band noise is in your own >> house - fix it as it isn't going to fix itself and don't be so sure to >> blame someone or something else until you confirm it. > > YES! There's an app note for this on my website that ran in NCJ several years > ago. k9yc.com/publish.htm > > 73, Jim K9YC > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Nick UY0ZG not only on East Europe still good user of websdr also here, condition still very bad also here, work only VY2ZM, W3LPL, N0NI, N4XD, VO1HP, KC1XX, K7GM, NR3X, KA1R, K1TTT, only this, also condition poor with Asia, hope better next week end. Rino IK7JTF _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Hi Jim My point on feedlines is that you can’t assume all is good. You do need to test and confirm. And chokes are a must. Mike va3mw > On Dec 1, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 12/1/2020 10:00 AM, Michael Walker wrote: >> - How old are your feedlines? Are 100% sure they are as good as the day >>you installed them? > > Another urban myth -- coax is degraded only 1) by the intrusion of moisture > into the dielectric, which occurs at poorly installed or poorly weatherproof > connectors or with physical damage to the outer jacket; or 2) UV breakdown to > a non-UV-resistant jacket. > >>- Noise -- did you know that 80% of the low band noise is in your own >>house - fix it as it isn't going to fix itself and don't be so sure to >>blame someone or something else until you confirm it. > > YES! There's an app note for this on my website that ran in NCJ several years > ago. k9yc.com/publish.htm > > 73, Jim K9YC > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Thanks Frank These numbers speak volumes: 1455 1547 16 5 I've seen you here many times : http://www.reversebeacon.net/dxsd1/dxsd1.php?f=3 But I never heard it even once .. For all my CQ WW I don't remember such weak conditions ( (towards NA). --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua donov...@erols.com писал 2020-12-02 09:29: Hi Nick, W3LPL was multi-single, we spent very limited time on Topband except to chase multipliers. We worked 160 QSOs, 21 Zones and 70 countries on Topband Conditions appeared to be normal to Europe but poor on paths crossing the auroral zone such as Zone 16 There was significantly less Topband activity than in recent years, perhaps because both 80 and 40 meters were excellent all night. Zone QSOs01 1 02 1 03 1 04 16 05 12 06 1 07 2 08 6 09 4 10 1 11 1 13 1 14 55 15 47 16 5 20 4 21 1 31 1 33 4 35 2 40 1 73 Frank W3LPL - FROM: "uy0zg" TO: donov...@erols.com CC: topband@contesting.com, "Topband" SENT: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:32:05 PM SUBJECT: Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year Hi Frank May I ask how many QSOs with zone 16 did you have on 160 meters in this CQ WW ? --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua donov...@erols.com писал 2020-12-01 20:20: Of course Lee is absolutely correct. Many 160 DXers who have had difficulty with receiving antennas have given up too easily during the troubleshooting process. 73 Frank W3LPL Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Hi Nick, W3LPL was multi-single, we spent very limited time on Topband except to chase multipliers. We worked 160 QSOs, 21 Zones and 70 countries on Topband Conditions appeared to be normal to Europe but poor on paths crossing the auroral zone such as Zone 16 There was significantly less Topband activity than in recent years, perhaps because both 80 and 40 meters were excellent all night. Zone QSOs 01 1 02 1 03 1 04 16 05 12 06 1 07 2 08 6 09 4 10 1 11 1 13 1 14 55 15 47 16 5 20 4 21 1 31 1 33 4 35 2 40 1 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "uy0zg" To: donov...@erols.com Cc: topband@contesting.com, "Topband" Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:32:05 PM Subject: Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year Hi Frank May I ask how many QSOs with zone 16 did you have on 160 meters in this CQ WW ? --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua donov...@erols.com писал 2020-12-01 20:20: > Of course Lee is absolutely correct. > > > Many 160 DXers who have had difficulty with receiving antennas > have given up too easily during the troubleshooting process. > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Lots of philosophy. And there is real life. I have a completely normal RX for NA. http://www.topband.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/IMG_1154.jpg If missing conditions - the best rx won't help! In the third zone this should be known especially well. --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Jamie WW3S писал 2020-12-02 02:15: You got the part about short distance correct.I live maybe 12-15 miles from Eric, NO3M.I cant hear a fraction of the stuff he does...of course phased beverage arrays on ten acres vs my small 80x180 lot in a subdivision makes a difference as well I swear he can hear a cricket rub his legs together halfway around the world.Ive been somewhat successful using some EWE and a magnetic receiving loop, always trying to tinker and find something that worksIve just about squeezed every antenna I can in my lot (tower with 3L steppir, Hytower, 2L phased array for 40 and Inv L off the tower for 160).so my rx antennas go into the front yard, much to my wifes and neighbors dismay..I may try a VE3DO loop instead of the EWE this year, no rx antennas up yet, and 12+ inches of snow today, plus more on the way means I may not have something up by the contest weekend.lifes too short to complain, try some small RX antennas, you may be surprised at the results. -- Original Message -- From: "Bob Kile" To: "Topband" Sent: 12/1/2020 6:58:28 PM Subject: Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year Please, please, every year this so called SDR BS comes up. Maybe in some cases it is true, maybe not. All of the top performing trophy seeking stations must record their contacts during the contest. My feeling is that most of the big guns don't have time to screw around with SDR. It would make your brain swirl with the delay. It is not much different than being off by 3-6db on power calculations. So, rather than complain, spend as much time becoming a better operator , building a better station and accept the fact on Top Band a very short distance can make all the difference in the world of hearing them and working them. IMO 73, Bob W7RH -- W7RH DM35OJ “Small is the number of people who see with their eyes and think with their minds.” – Albert Einstein _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
You got the part about short distance correct.I live maybe 12-15 miles from Eric, NO3M.I cant hear a fraction of the stuff he does...of course phased beverage arrays on ten acres vs my small 80x180 lot in a subdivision makes a difference as well I swear he can hear a cricket rub his legs together halfway around the world.Ive been somewhat successful using some EWE and a magnetic receiving loop, always trying to tinker and find something that worksIve just about squeezed every antenna I can in my lot (tower with 3L steppir, Hytower, 2L phased array for 40 and Inv L off the tower for 160).so my rx antennas go into the front yard, much to my wifes and neighbors dismay..I may try a VE3DO loop instead of the EWE this year, no rx antennas up yet, and 12+ inches of snow today, plus more on the way means I may not have something up by the contest weekend.lifes too short to complain, try some small RX antennas, you may be surprised at the results. -- Original Message -- From: "Bob Kile" To: "Topband" Sent: 12/1/2020 6:58:28 PM Subject: Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year Please, please, every year this so called SDR BS comes up. Maybe in some cases it is true, maybe not. All of the top performing trophy seeking stations must record their contacts during the contest. My feeling is that most of the big guns don't have time to screw around with SDR. It would make your brain swirl with the delay. It is not much different than being off by 3-6db on power calculations. So, rather than complain, spend as much time becoming a better operator , building a better station and accept the fact on Top Band a very short distance can make all the difference in the world of hearing them and working them. IMO 73, Bob W7RH -- W7RH DM35OJ “Small is the number of people who see with their eyes and think with their minds.” – Albert Einstein _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Please, please, every year this so called SDR BS comes up. Maybe in some cases it is true, maybe not. All of the top performing trophy seeking stations must record their contacts during the contest. My feeling is that most of the big guns don't have time to screw around with SDR. It would make your brain swirl with the delay. It is not much different than being off by 3-6db on power calculations. So, rather than complain, spend as much time becoming a better operator , building a better station and accept the fact on Top Band a very short distance can make all the difference in the world of hearing them and working them. IMO 73, Bob W7RH -- W7RH DM35OJ “Small is the number of people who see with their eyes and think with their minds.” – Albert Einstein _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Hi Nick, I have a limited setup, only an inverted L over an FCP on 160 (not like W3LPL's 160m 4 square cannon). With basically no time to operate, I managed about 60 minutes in three spells on 160m, 45 QSO's, 17 zones, 30 countries, all S I worked EU and AF in zones: 14: 4, 15: 7, 16: 1, 20:1, 33: 1, 35: 1. Not sure the 45/17/30 in one hour on 160 from a modest station allows room to blame things on the band. Good antenna for RX, and an EFFICIENT transmit antenna are always key to making it. These will be even MORE important for 160 success as we make our way into cycle 25. 160 seemed slow this time, but I didn't hear nearly as many stations on the band, weak *or* loud, as in the past. Think they were having too much fun on the higher bands in conditions which are most likely the opening round of solar cycle 25 propagation. Get ready to do DXCC on 6 meters this time around. 73, Guy K2AV On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:32 PM uy0zg wrote: > Hi > > Frank > > > > May I ask how many QSOs with zone 16 did you have on 160 meters in this > CQ WW ? > > > --- > Nick, UY0ZG > http://www.topband.in.ua > > donov...@erols.com писал 2020-12-01 20:20: > > Of course Lee is absolutely correct. > > > > > > Many 160 DXers who have had difficulty with receiving antennas > > have given up too easily during the troubleshooting process. > > > > > > 73 > > Frank > > W3LPL > Topband Reflector > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
On 12/1/2020 12:38 PM, donov...@erols.com wrote: Flexible coaxial cable jackets are easily damaged by careless handling, by mice and other vermin, by improper installation on a tower, or by not bonding the coax to the top and bottom of the tower which makes it susceptible to pin hole damage during lightning strikes. Agreed on all counts, but I doubt many 160M feedlines are running up towers. :) 73, Jim K9YC _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Flexible coaxial cable jackets are easily damaged by careless handling, by mice and other vermin, by improper installation on a tower, or by not bonding the coax to the top and bottom of the tower which makes it susceptible to pin hole damage during lightning strikes. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:29:10 PM Subject: Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year On 12/1/2020 10:00 AM, Michael Walker wrote: > - How old are your feedlines? Are 100% sure they are as good as the day > you installed them? Another urban myth -- coax is degraded only 1) by the intrusion of moisture into the dielectric, which occurs at poorly installed or poorly weatherproof connectors or with physical damage to the outer jacket; or 2) UV breakdown to a non-UV-resistant jacket. > - Noise -- did you know that 80% of the low band noise is in your own > house - fix it as it isn't going to fix itself and don't be so sure to > blame someone or something else until you confirm it. YES! There's an app note for this on my website that ran in NCJ several years ago. k9yc.com/publish.htm 73, Jim K9YC _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
On 12/1/2020 10:00 AM, Michael Walker wrote: - How old are your feedlines? Are 100% sure they are as good as the day you installed them? Another urban myth -- coax is degraded only 1) by the intrusion of moisture into the dielectric, which occurs at poorly installed or poorly weatherproof connectors or with physical damage to the outer jacket; or 2) UV breakdown to a non-UV-resistant jacket. - Noise -- did you know that 80% of the low band noise is in your own house - fix it as it isn't going to fix itself and don't be so sure to blame someone or something else until you confirm it. YES! There's an app note for this on my website that ran in NCJ several years ago. k9yc.com/publish.htm 73, Jim K9YC _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Hi Frank May I ask how many QSOs with zone 16 did you have on 160 meters in this CQ WW ? --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua donov...@erols.com писал 2020-12-01 20:20: Of course Lee is absolutely correct. Many 160 DXers who have had difficulty with receiving antennas have given up too easily during the troubleshooting process. 73 Frank W3LPL Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Of course Lee is absolutely correct. Many 160 DXers who have had difficulty with receiving antennas have given up too easily during the troubleshooting process. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Lee STRAHAN" To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:40:11 PM Subject: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year Hmmm, Nick, I beg to differ with you. I don’t care about scores or countries, zones worked but I do care about 160 meter receiving antennas. In my opinion your statement is dead wrong. Not looking for a war of words or any more discussion. I will not respond again about this. Lee K7TJR Hi-Z Antennas -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:10 AM To: peter.voel...@t-online.de Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year Dr Peter Super RX antennas for 160 m do not exist! Exist : - good conditions - Quiet countryside - Geography Does not exist : - Miracles I never envy. They envy me! In CQ WW I only heard three from the USA - K7GM, W1KM, W3UA. These are honest QSOs. --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua dj...@t-online.de писал 2020-12-01 16:38: > It´s amazing, the probably envious stations always suspect others with > their better antennas and perhaps better operation to use web sdr. > > 73 > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Topband > [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] > On > Behalf Of uy0zg > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2020 14:19 > To: Tom | SP5XO > Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband > Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year > > Hi > > Weeks conditions ? > > For the best of the ex USSR countries, this is not a problem! > > > Very good HIGH + WEB SDR+ very kind and democratic American judges = > > > super result is ready! > > http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/3830/2020-11/msg08693.html > > > . > > 73 ! > > --- > Nick, UY0ZG > http://www.topband.in.ua > > Tom | SP5XO ? 2020-12-01 14:21: >> Compare to recent weeks conditions were marginal during CQWW. Only >> two Zone >> 4 stations were audible here and it took long time to work them. >> Whereas a >> week ago band was wide open from MI, IL to CO or even down to TX. >> I worked only mults and Dx's this time. Only 13 stations from Zone 5 >> in my log. Except for VY2ZM all NA's were weak including KC1XX and >> W3LPL! >> Hopeful things improve for next weekend and will work some more in >> ARRL 160. >> CU >> Tom >> sp5xo >> >> Conditions certainly didn't favor 160 over the weekend CQWW contest >> here in >>> Florida at least. >>> >>> Looking back in 2019 I worked 50 countries on 160 during CQWW, this >>> year it was only 17, only 3 Europeans and those were very weak. I'm >>> sure the lack of expeditions due to CV-19 played a part but on whole >>> I think many guys in hindsight will be glad they didn't spend the >>> money to go. >>> >>> Maybe things will pick up next weekend for the ARRL 160 test though >>> that tends to be largely a USA to USA test and it is hard to hear >>> the DX through the local mob >>> >>> CU guys in the pile up >>> >>> Dave >>> NR1DX >>> -- >>> Dave manu...@artekmanuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com >>> >>> >>> >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> Reflector > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
I agree with you Lee. My new rotatable flag to me is super compared to my 4' loop on my 1/4 acre city lot. I guess it's all relative to one's situation. Maybe the word Nick is looking for is Magic. There is no Magic antenna that is effective when the band is not open. Jeff Reynolds NE0DX Lee STRAHAN wrote: Hmmm, Nick, I beg to differ with you. I don’t care about scores or countries, zones worked but I do care about 160 meter receiving antennas. In my opinion your statement is dead wrong. Not looking for a war of words or any more discussion. I will not respond again about this. Lee K7TJR Hi-Z Antennas -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:10 AM To: peter.voel...@t-online.de Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year Dr Peter Super RX antennas for 160 m do not exist! Exist : - good conditions - Quiet countryside - Geography Does not exist : - Miracles I never envy. They envy me! In CQ WW I only heard three from the USA - K7GM, W1KM, W3UA. These are honest QSOs. --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua dj...@t-online.de писал 2020-12-01 16:38: It´s amazing, the probably envious stations always suspect others with their better antennas and perhaps better operation to use web sdr. 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2020 14:19 To: Tom | SP5XO Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year Hi Weeks conditions ? For the best of the ex USSR countries, this is not a problem! Very good HIGH + WEB SDR+ very kind and democratic American judges = super result is ready! http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/3830/2020-11/msg08693.html . 73 ! --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Tom | SP5XO ? 2020-12-01 14:21: Compare to recent weeks conditions were marginal during CQWW. Only two Zone 4 stations were audible here and it took long time to work them. Whereas a week ago band was wide open from MI, IL to CO or even down to TX. I worked only mults and Dx's this time. Only 13 stations from Zone 5 in my log. Except for VY2ZM all NA's were weak including KC1XX and W3LPL! Hopeful things improve for next weekend and will work some more in ARRL 160. CU Tom sp5xo Conditions certainly didn't favor 160 over the weekend CQWW contest here in Florida at least. Looking back in 2019 I worked 50 countries on 160 during CQWW, this year it was only 17, only 3 Europeans and those were very weak. I'm sure the lack of expeditions due to CV-19 played a part but on whole I think many guys in hindsight will be glad they didn't spend the money to go. Maybe things will pick up next weekend for the ARRL 160 test though that tends to be largely a USA to USA test and it is hard to hear the DX through the local mob CU guys in the pile up Dave NR1DX -- Dave manu...@artekmanuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
you guys complain a lot. :) Get on the air and work them. If you can't hear them either accept it or do something about it. Sitting on your but won't make it better. Ask yourself, what can I do about it? - How old are your feedlines? Are 100% sure they are as good as the day you installed them? - Noise -- did you know that 80% of the low band noise is in your own house - fix it as it isn't going to fix itself and don't be so sure to blame someone or something else until you confirm it. Quit guessing. - Not sure what to do, ask for help. There is lots of great knowledge here. - Give up and take up stamp collecting or collect candles. The good thing with candles is that if you don't like them, you can always burn them. They are also the perfect gift. Mike va3mw On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 12:52 PM uy0zg wrote: > Hi Lee > > My English is very weak. > I can't argue with you .. > > 1- I agree that there are very good RX antennas. > But I repeat - there are no super RX antennas. > > 2 - if there is a lot of industrial interference near your QTH, a good > RX antenna will not help. > > 3- Very weeks conditions - a good RX antenna similarly won't help .. > > Try listening to Europe tomorrow at 13.00 - 15.00 UTC time. > I am sure there will be no result. > > 73 > > --- > Nick, UY0ZG > http://www.topband.in.ua > > Lee STRAHAN писал 2020-12-01 19:40: > > Hmmm, Nick, > > I beg to differ with you. I don’t care about scores or countries, > > zones worked but I do care about 160 meter receiving antennas. > > In my opinion your statement is dead wrong. > > Not looking for a war of words or any more discussion. I will not > > respond again about this. > > > > Lee K7TJR > > Hi-Z Antennas > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Topband On Behalf > > Of uy0zg > > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:10 AM > > To: peter.voel...@t-online.de > > Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband > > > > Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year > > > > Dr Peter > > > > Super RX antennas for 160 m do not exist! > > > > Exist : > > - good conditions > > - Quiet countryside > > - Geography > > > > Does not exist : > > > > - Miracles > > > > > > > > I never envy. They envy me! > > > > > > > > > > In CQ WW I only heard three from the USA - K7GM, W1KM, W3UA. > > > > These are honest QSOs. > > > > > > > > --- > > Nick, UY0ZG > > http://www.topband.in.ua > > > > dj...@t-online.de писал 2020-12-01 16:38: > >> It´s amazing, the probably envious stations always suspect others with > >> their better antennas and perhaps better operation to use web sdr. > >> > >> 73 > >> Peter > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Topband > >> [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] > >> On > >> Behalf Of uy0zg > >> Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2020 14:19 > >> To: Tom | SP5XO > >> Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband > >> Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> Weeks conditions ? > >> > >> For the best of the ex USSR countries, this is not a problem! > >> > >> > >> Very good HIGH + WEB SDR+ very kind and democratic American judges = > >> > >> > >> super result is ready! > >> > >> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/3830/2020-11/msg08693.html > >> > >> > >> . > >> > >> 73 ! > >> > >> --- > >> Nick, UY0ZG > >> http://www.topband.in.ua > >> > >> Tom | SP5XO ? 2020-12-01 14:21: > >>> Compare to recent weeks conditions were marginal during CQWW. Only > >>> two Zone > >>> 4 stations were audible here and it took long time to work them. > >>> Whereas a > >>> week ago band was wide open from MI, IL to CO or even down to TX. > >>> I worked only mults and Dx's this time. Only 13 stations from Zone 5 > >>> in my log. Except for VY2ZM all NA's were weak including KC1XX and > >>> W3LPL! > >>> Hopeful things improve for next weekend and will work some more in > >>> ARRL 160. > >>> CU > >>> Tom > >>> sp5xo > >>> > >>> Conditions certainly didn't favor 160 over the weekend CQWW contest > >>> here in > Florida at least. > > Looking back in 2019 I worked 50 countries on 160 during CQWW, this > year it was only 17, only 3 Europeans and those were very weak. I'm > sure the lack of expeditions due to CV-19 played a part but on whole > I think many guys in hindsight will be glad they didn't spend the > money to go. > > Maybe things will pick up next weekend for the ARRL 160 test though > that tends to be largely a USA to USA test and it is hard to hear > the DX through the local mob > > CU guys in the pile up > > Dave > NR1DX > -- > Dave manu...@artekmanuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com > > > > >>> _ > >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > >>> Reflector > >> _ > >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > >> Reflector > >> > >>
Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Hi Lee My English is very weak. I can't argue with you .. 1- I agree that there are very good RX antennas. But I repeat - there are no super RX antennas. 2 - if there is a lot of industrial interference near your QTH, a good RX antenna will not help. 3- Very weeks conditions - a good RX antenna similarly won't help .. Try listening to Europe tomorrow at 13.00 - 15.00 UTC time. I am sure there will be no result. 73 --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Lee STRAHAN писал 2020-12-01 19:40: Hmmm, Nick, I beg to differ with you. I don’t care about scores or countries, zones worked but I do care about 160 meter receiving antennas. In my opinion your statement is dead wrong. Not looking for a war of words or any more discussion. I will not respond again about this. Lee K7TJR Hi-Z Antennas -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:10 AM To: peter.voel...@t-online.de Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year Dr Peter Super RX antennas for 160 m do not exist! Exist : - good conditions - Quiet countryside - Geography Does not exist : - Miracles I never envy. They envy me! In CQ WW I only heard three from the USA - K7GM, W1KM, W3UA. These are honest QSOs. --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua dj...@t-online.de писал 2020-12-01 16:38: It´s amazing, the probably envious stations always suspect others with their better antennas and perhaps better operation to use web sdr. 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2020 14:19 To: Tom | SP5XO Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year Hi Weeks conditions ? For the best of the ex USSR countries, this is not a problem! Very good HIGH + WEB SDR+ very kind and democratic American judges = super result is ready! http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/3830/2020-11/msg08693.html . 73 ! --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Tom | SP5XO ? 2020-12-01 14:21: Compare to recent weeks conditions were marginal during CQWW. Only two Zone 4 stations were audible here and it took long time to work them. Whereas a week ago band was wide open from MI, IL to CO or even down to TX. I worked only mults and Dx's this time. Only 13 stations from Zone 5 in my log. Except for VY2ZM all NA's were weak including KC1XX and W3LPL! Hopeful things improve for next weekend and will work some more in ARRL 160. CU Tom sp5xo Conditions certainly didn't favor 160 over the weekend CQWW contest here in Florida at least. Looking back in 2019 I worked 50 countries on 160 during CQWW, this year it was only 17, only 3 Europeans and those were very weak. I'm sure the lack of expeditions due to CV-19 played a part but on whole I think many guys in hindsight will be glad they didn't spend the money to go. Maybe things will pick up next weekend for the ARRL 160 test though that tends to be largely a USA to USA test and it is hard to hear the DX through the local mob CU guys in the pile up Dave NR1DX -- Dave manu...@artekmanuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year
Hmmm, Nick, I beg to differ with you. I don’t care about scores or countries, zones worked but I do care about 160 meter receiving antennas. In my opinion your statement is dead wrong. Not looking for a war of words or any more discussion. I will not respond again about this. Lee K7TJR Hi-Z Antennas -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of uy0zg Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:10 AM To: peter.voel...@t-online.de Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year Dr Peter Super RX antennas for 160 m do not exist! Exist : - good conditions - Quiet countryside - Geography Does not exist : - Miracles I never envy. They envy me! In CQ WW I only heard three from the USA - K7GM, W1KM, W3UA. These are honest QSOs. --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua dj...@t-online.de писал 2020-12-01 16:38: > It´s amazing, the probably envious stations always suspect others with > their better antennas and perhaps better operation to use web sdr. > > 73 > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Topband > [mailto:topband-bounces+dj7ww=t-online...@contesting.com] > On > Behalf Of uy0zg > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2020 14:19 > To: Tom | SP5XO > Cc: topband@contesting.com; Topband > Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW a bust this year > > Hi > > Weeks conditions ? > > For the best of the ex USSR countries, this is not a problem! > > > Very good HIGH + WEB SDR+ very kind and democratic American judges = > > > super result is ready! > > http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/3830/2020-11/msg08693.html > > > . > > 73 ! > > --- > Nick, UY0ZG > http://www.topband.in.ua > > Tom | SP5XO ? 2020-12-01 14:21: >> Compare to recent weeks conditions were marginal during CQWW. Only >> two Zone >> 4 stations were audible here and it took long time to work them. >> Whereas a >> week ago band was wide open from MI, IL to CO or even down to TX. >> I worked only mults and Dx's this time. Only 13 stations from Zone 5 >> in my log. Except for VY2ZM all NA's were weak including KC1XX and >> W3LPL! >> Hopeful things improve for next weekend and will work some more in >> ARRL 160. >> CU >> Tom >> sp5xo >> >> Conditions certainly didn't favor 160 over the weekend CQWW contest >> here in >>> Florida at least. >>> >>> Looking back in 2019 I worked 50 countries on 160 during CQWW, this >>> year it was only 17, only 3 Europeans and those were very weak. I'm >>> sure the lack of expeditions due to CV-19 played a part but on whole >>> I think many guys in hindsight will be glad they didn't spend the >>> money to go. >>> >>> Maybe things will pick up next weekend for the ARRL 160 test though >>> that tends to be largely a USA to USA test and it is hard to hear >>> the DX through the local mob >>> >>> CU guys in the pile up >>> >>> Dave >>> NR1DX >>> -- >>> Dave manu...@artekmanuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com >>> >>> >>> >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> Reflector > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
