Re: Topband: Looking for hi-Z antenna

2021-03-10 Thread Dave Cuthbert
It isn't the feedpoint impedance that matters, it is the antenna radiation
resistance that matters. For example, if we take a quarter wavelength
vertical having radiation resistance of 36 ohms and add a wire to make it a
folded vertical having input impedance of 144 ohms it still has a radiation
resistance of 36 ohms. The ground loss eats up the same amount of RF energy.

To increase the radiation resistance the current-area must be increased.
Two ways to do that are to lengthen the antenna (up to 1/4 wavelength) or
top load it. On 60 meters1 the HF2V is a 32' base loaded vertical having a
radiation resistance of ~1.5 ohms. Top loaded this can be increased to ~5.5
ohms, potentially increasing your signal by almost 6 dB. The HF2V manual
mentions top loading on page 11.

 *HF2V manual*
https://static.dxengineering.com/global/images/instructions/but-hf2v_ck.pdf

Dave KH6AQ

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 3:07 AM Richard Quick  wrote:

> I have as much of a compromised antenna for 160 as you can get.
> A Butternut HF2V with a 160 coil, mounted on a chain link fence.
> I have a small lot with overhead power lines across the back of the
> property, and Am looking for a better idea.
> I’m thinking a hi impedance feed point antenna ie:450 ohms would require a
> much less extensive ground radial system than say, an inverted L with low
> impedance. Easier to match a 450 Ground than 37 ohms.
> Am I nuts?  Anyone with ideas along this line of thinking?
>
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Re: Topband: Looking for hi-Z antenna

2021-03-10 Thread Artek Manuals

Rich
Roughly how big is your back yard? Any trees over 30' high?

( I did work Antarctica from Texas once with a Bnut HF-9V and about 8 
radials, so even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then ...but your 
instincts are correct about there being better alternatives ...8^)


Dave
NR1DX

On 3/10/2021 8:07 AM, Richard Quick wrote:

I have as much of a compromised antenna for 160 as you can get.
A Butternut HF2V with a 160 coil, mounted on a chain link fence.
I have a small lot with overhead power lines across the back of the property, 
and Am looking for a better idea.
I’m thinking a hi impedance feed point antenna ie:450 ohms would require a much 
less extensive ground radial system than say, an inverted L with low impedance. 
Easier to match a 450 Ground than 37 ohms.
Am I nuts?  Anyone with ideas along this line of thinking?



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Topband: Looking for hi-Z antenna

2021-03-10 Thread Richard Quick
I have as much of a compromised antenna for 160 as you can get.
A Butternut HF2V with a 160 coil, mounted on a chain link fence.
I have a small lot with overhead power lines across the back of the property, 
and Am looking for a better idea.
I’m thinking a hi impedance feed point antenna ie:450 ohms would require a much 
less extensive ground radial system than say, an inverted L with low impedance. 
Easier to match a 450 Ground than 37 ohms.
Am I nuts?  Anyone with ideas along this line of thinking?



Rich - W4RQ Amateur Radio: The Original Social Media
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