Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Thanks to everyone who replied to my question! I think we're good to go. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com ___ Stew Perry Topband Distance Challenge coming on December 29th.
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Can anyone tell me how to prepare this RG-6 (F-6) for snap-n-seal connectors? Do I fold the braid back over the jacket? If so, how far? And is the same true for RG-11 (F-11)? The temp is going to drop here in two days and I won't be able to do this after that in time for the Stew Perry. Since the list is in moderated mode, I'd appreciate a cc to my e-mail address. There's not time to buy the coax stripper. Thanks in advance! 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com wrote: I bought some of these from this seller and this eBay listing number, and they arrived today. Just thought I'd mention that there are no O-ring seals. I didn't try them yet; I have to figure out the best way to prepare the coax. Any suggestions? I'm using Commscope flooded quad-shield RG-6 (F-6) with poly foil and bonded inner shield. Jacket/flooded-braid/foil/braid/bonded-foil/dielectric/CCS. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a new roll of flooded quad shield RG-6 and packages of connectors from 5 sources because they are cheap until I found a package that worked. Here is the one that worked great. Note: this is for Quad Shield and Flooded (with Poly.). If you have Double shield it may not work. Seller: fourpairteledata ( 44493 ) 10 Pack Lot - F-Type Compression Connector Male Plug RG6 Quad Shield Coax Cable ( 120796092561 ) ___ Stew Perry Topband Distance Challenge coming on December 29th.
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
I bought some of these from this seller and this eBay listing number, and they arrived today. Just thought I'd mention that there are no O-ring seals. I didn't try them yet; I have to figure out the best way to prepare the coax. Any suggestions? I'm using Commscope flooded quad-shield RG-6 (F-6) with poly foil and bonded inner shield. Jacket/flooded-braid/foil/braid/bonded-foil/dielectric/CCS. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a new roll of flooded quad shield RG-6 and packages of connectors from 5 sources because they are cheap until I found a package that worked. Here is the one that worked great. Note: this is for Quad Shield and Flooded (with Poly.). If you have Double shield it may not work. Seller: fourpairteledata ( 44493 ) 10 Pack Lot - F-Type Compression Connector Male Plug RG6 Quad Shield Coax Cable ( 120796092561 ) ___ It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true. - Bertrand Russell
Topband: PE coated RG6
I would like to thank everyone who replied to my question both in PMs and in the respective forums. As many of you know, I have been making cables for years professionally but this one, like connectorizing RG174, stumped me. The issue is getting compression F connectors on the PE coated RG6 I am using to feed my K7TJR four square receive array. I have never had a problem putting F connectors on my PVC coated RG6. The problem is getting the PE to expand enough to accept the ground innards of the F connector and properly seat the center conductor of the coax with the foam at the end of the opening. I have tried heating the PE and that works, kinda. Doing it in the field far from the house, on a cold winters day, means you have to judiciously use a torch to warm the PE. One suggestion was to use hot water. I will give that a try later today. The suggestion that has worked on three test connections came from Joel at the RFC, another cable manufacturer. He suggested doing the standard cable prep as you would do for PVC. He then suggested two ½ lateral cuts in to the PE at the 12 and 6 positions and then push the connector on to the cable. Eureka! Joel also suggested using the older crimp F connectors in lieu of compression fittings. I have done both in my testing and am able to get a good connection with both. Using Joels suggestion, Ill be remaking the splice where the coax was crushed hopefully this afternoon before the snow comes. I did speak to Lee at Hi-Z yesterday and he warned me about substandard quality F double females. He has had terrible problems with them. Special thanks to you all for helping me especially Joel, W3RFC and Roger, N1RJ who sent me data sheets for F connectors. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and all the best for 2013 Craig Clark K1QX QX Electronics PO Box 209 107 Fitzgerald Rd Rindge NH 03461 (603) 899-6959 office (603) 520 6577 cell ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Craig, what does lateral mean here - parallel to or perpendicular to the length of the cable? 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com. For spots, please go to your favorite ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node. On 12/15/2012 9:25 AM, Craig Clark wrote: He suggested doing the standard cable prep as you would do for PVC. He then suggested two ½ lateral cuts in to the PE at the 12 and 6 positions and then push the connector on to the cable. Eureka! ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Topband: PE Coated RG6
Pete Lateral or along the axis of the coax. I was confused too at first when Joel told me what to do. Craig Craig Clark K1QX QX Electronics PO Box 209 107 Fitzgerald Rd Rindge NH 03461 (603) 899-6959 office (603) 520 6577 cell ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
No problem at all here, using two or three types of compression F connectors. PE jacket flooded direct burial RG6 type cable, one foil and braid, NOT quad shield. They have been in service now for 4 years with no issues. Best part is my local squirrels don't seem to like the taste of polyethylene. 73, Paul On 12/14/2012 10:20 AM, Craig Clark wrote: Anyone have any success installing compression F connectors on polyethylene coated RG6? I am having no luck with either double or quad shield compression or older crimp F connectors. ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Craig Clark wrote: Anyone have any success installing compression F connectors on polyethylene coated RG6? I am having no luck with either double or quad shield compression or older crimp F connectors. Craig Clark K1QX An old trick that works with hoses on barb connectors is to heat up the hose by dunking it in a jar of hot (near boiling) water. Works every time. I'm thinking that one quick dunk in water won't hurt the RG6 if you dry it out afterwards with a heat gun. You could also try heating the coax with the heat gun instead of using hot water. If you try this, let us know how it works. BTW, where do you buy PE jacketed RG6; I'm looking for some for my satellite TV feed. Rick N6RK ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Just completed cables for an active receive 4 square with Commscope PE jacketed flooded RG6 (660-BEF), 1000' on ebay for $35. I used the weathertight compression fittings and a Radio Shack stepped prep cutter. RS has the tools cheap. Extra care is needed to remove the braid shards since the flooding goop causes them to stick to everything. It is also a challenge to push the cable far enough into the connector, next time I'll try the heat gun idea. I found trimming the braid away with a flush cutting wire snipper was helpful, but still have pretty sore hands. Grant KZ1W Grant, Did you use the screw-on tool from RS to push the connectors on the RG6? It sure makes it a lot easier. I use only the crimp style connectors. 73 Price W0RI ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Hi Craig, I bought a new roll of flooded quad shield RG-6 and packages of connectors from 5 sources because they are cheap until I found a package that worked. Here is the one that worked great. Note: this is for Quad Shield and Flooded (with Poly.). If you have Double shield it may not work. Seller: fourpairteledata ( 44493 ) Item Title Price Shipping Price Qty Item Total 10 Pack Lot - F-Type Compression Connector Male Plug RG6 Quad Shield Coax Cable ( 120796092561 ) Paid on Jul-31-12 $6.95 Free 1 $6.95 Shipped on Aug-01-12 USPS First Class Package Estimated delivery: Varies* You can contact seller for more information. Tracking: 9400110200828444898792 --- On Fri, 12/14/12, Craig Clark jccl...@myfairpoint.net wrote: From: Craig Clark jccl...@myfairpoint.net Subject: Topband: PE coated RG6 To: y...@contesting.com, topband@contesting.com, hi-zreceivingarraydiscussi...@hizantennas.com Date: Friday, December 14, 2012, 10:20 AM Anyone have any success installing compression F connectors on polyethylene coated RG6? I am having no luck with either double or quad shield compression or older crimp F connectors. Craig Clark K1QX QX Electronics PO Box 209 107 Fitzgerald Rd Rindge NH 03461 (603) 899-6959 office (603) 520 6577 cell ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: PE coated RG6
Forgot to say these were purch. on eBay and the same company sells Dual Shield Connectors: RG6 Quad Shield Compression F-Type Connectors DESCRIPTION Quantity: 10 For use with RG6 Quad Shield Cable (Not suitable for dual shield cable, look in our store for RG6 dual shield connectors) F-Type Compression Male Waterproof Same company sells Dual shield compression connectors on eBay. Search for 'fourpairteledata' --- On Fri, 12/14/12, Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Topband: PE coated RG6 To: Craig Clark jccl...@myfairpoint.net, Jim j_fit...@yahoo.com Cc: top Band topband@contesting.com Date: Friday, December 14, 2012, 6:49 PM Hi Craig, I bought a new roll of flooded quad shield RG-6 and packages of connectors from 5 sources because they are cheap until I found a package that worked. Here is the one that worked great. Note: this is for Quad Shield and Flooded (with Poly.). If you have Double shield it may not work. Seller: fourpairteledata ( 44493 ) Item Title Price Shipping Price Qty Item Total 10 Pack Lot - F-Type Compression Connector Male Plug RG6 Quad Shield Coax Cable ( 120796092561 ) Paid on Jul-31-12 $6.95 Free 1 $6.95 Shipped on Aug-01-12 USPS First Class Package Estimated delivery: Varies* You can contact seller for more information. Tracking: 9400110200828444898792 --- On Fri, 12/14/12, Craig Clark jccl...@myfairpoint.net wrote: From: Craig Clark jccl...@myfairpoint.net Subject: Topband: PE coated RG6 To: y...@contesting.com, topband@contesting.com, hi-zreceivingarraydiscussi...@hizantennas.com Date: Friday, December 14, 2012, 10:20 AM Anyone have any success installing compression F connectors on polyethylene coated RG6? I am having no luck with either double or quad shield compression or older crimp F connectors. Craig Clark K1QX QX Electronics PO Box 209 107 Fitzgerald Rd Rindge NH 03461 (603) 899-6959 office (603) 520 6577 cell ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
