Re: Topband: Untoward (?) comments on 160
We all have a common interest/enjoyment in overcoming the difficult propagation characteristics on this band to make QSOs with each other. How we do it is secondary. 73 Art NK8X ᐧ On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:19 PM, HAROLD SMITH JR <w0ri...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Larry, N7DD > I do not believe that you are 35 years out of date. Sure the "Plastic > Boxes" have 160 on them and there are many amplifiers that pump out max > power on Top Band. The antennas are a different problem. Putting up a 160 > meter dipole can be impossible on a normal city lot. My lot is 90 ft X 135 > ft, try putting up a dipole on this lot. Well a dipole is not much of a DX > snagging antenna unless you can get it up 200 to 300 ft. I shunt feed my 80 > ft of Rohn 45G with a 10, 15, 20 meter stack of Yagis. It gets out very > well but my receive leaves a lot to be desired. As one can see, no room for > a good RX antenna. Even so I have 192 confirmed on 160. I have tried loops, > BOGs and etc and nothing helps much. I have a S9+ noise on 160, 24/7. A 33 > kV and 7.2 kv power line on my street makes for some fun.One must > understand that it took W1BB many yours to get 100 on 160. There weren't > many countries on Top Band then. > My four pfennig worth.Price W0RI > > On Monday, March 14, 2016 12:40 PM, Larry via Topband < > topband@contesting.com> wrote: > > > hi rob, > > > 160 meters is all about hearing! you can't get that out of a "cracker-jax" > box. > > > it's not too difficult for guys with lots of property available but for > the guys on small lots?? kudos to them. then there are remote RX sites but > that's another story for another time. > > > 160 meters is as much a challenge today as it was 35 years ago and will > continue to be so for the next 35 years. > > > enjoy top-band, it's not as easy as you may think. > > > 73, larry n7dd > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Rob Atkinson <ranchoro...@gmail.com> > To: topband <topband@contesting.com> > Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2016 4:45 pm > Subject: Re: Topband: Untoward comments on 160 > > >Amazes me; it takes years to accumulate enough skill and equipment to > >get on the air with a good signal, especially on 160 and then become > >a participant in the opposite mentality of what the sport is all > >about. > > You are around 35 years out of date. It was harder to get on 160 in > the days of the phony "all-band" rigs that covered 10 to 80 meters but > now that every plastic box had a button on it for 160 and you can get > a solid state plastic box amplifier that automatically switches bands > and tunes up and you can go buy a dipole that is cut for 160, getting > on 160 is about like getting on CB. > > 73 > > Rob > K5UJ > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Untoward (?) comments on 160
FWIW - 160 has been a huge challenge for me and whether my equipment/antennas came out of a box or required considerable effort to assemble is no matter. However you get on 160 success requires lots of dedication and time in front of the rig to catch that 2 minute opening to snag a new one. That will never change. 73, Bob/AA6VB _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Untoward (?) comments on 160
Larry N7DD, I am sorry you have decided to make this about me. In the future, I suggest you make sure you know your subject before commenting. 73 Rob K5UJ <<>> _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Untoward (?) comments on 160
On Mon,3/14/2016 10:40 AM, Larry via Topband wrote: 160 meters is as much a challenge today as it was 35 years ago and will continue to be so for the next 35 years. RIGHT! Like all phases of ham radio, success is about ANTENNAS, ANTENNAS, ANTENNAS, chasing down and killing RX noise, understanding propagation, and operating skill. Except that it's more so on topband. 73, Jim K9YC _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Untoward (?) comments on 160
hi rob, 160 meters is all about hearing! you can't get that out of a "cracker-jax" box. it's not too difficult for guys with lots of property available but for the guys on small lots?? kudos to them. then there are remote RX sites but that's another story for another time. 160 meters is as much a challenge today as it was 35 years ago and will continue to be so for the next 35 years. enjoy top-band, it's not as easy as you may think. 73, larry n7dd -Original Message- From: Rob Atkinson <ranchoro...@gmail.com> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2016 4:45 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Untoward comments on 160 >Amazes me; it takes years to accumulate enough skill and equipment to >get on the air with a good signal, especially on 160 and then become >a participant in the opposite mentality of what the sport is all >about. You are around 35 years out of date. It was harder to get on 160 in the days of the phony "all-band" rigs that covered 10 to 80 meters but now that every plastic box had a button on it for 160 and you can get a solid state plastic box amplifier that automatically switches bands and tunes up and you can go buy a dipole that is cut for 160, getting on 160 is about like getting on CB. 73 Rob K5UJ _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Untoward comments on 160
>Amazes me; it takes years to accumulate enough skill and equipment to >get on the air with a good signal, especially on 160 and then become >a participant in the opposite mentality of what the sport is all >about. You are around 35 years out of date. It was harder to get on 160 in the days of the phony "all-band" rigs that covered 10 to 80 meters but now that every plastic box had a button on it for 160 and you can get a solid state plastic box amplifier that automatically switches bands and tunes up and you can go buy a dipole that is cut for 160, getting on 160 is about like getting on CB. 73 Rob K5UJ _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: Untoward comments on 160
I rarely get on SSB but there's a net of good folks on 1.850 that I do enjoy joining in with every so often. A couple days ago I was stunned to hear someone QRMing the frequency with childish comments. Again, I don't habit SSB much but I've never heard that kind of comments on 160 that I can remember. As we all know, 20M & 80 are rife with this kind of mentality. One of the fellows in the net, with a voice reminiscent of a good teacher, instead of chiding the guy, suggested someone was out there and would he like to join in the discussion? He said this with dignity though I'm assuming nobody would expect someone who has been QRMing to give their call and join in at that point. It must have gotten through to the guy though, that he wasn't going to get back what he was giving and he must have QSYed to harangue another net as he didn't interrupt again while I was listening. Amazes me; it takes years to accumulate enough skill and equipment to get on the air with a good signal, especially on 160 and then become a participant in the opposite mentality of what the sport is all about. I guess we all can put some kind of reason in our heads as to why those very few do this and probably each of us will guess somewhat correctly but I'm still dumbfounded when it happens; It takes such a low level of society to entertain doing this. I guess that is why in the society we all live in, law enforcement is needed. My 2 centavos. 73, Gary KA1J _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
