Re: Topband: Vertical Dipoles on 160 Meters

2021-05-07 Thread charlie carroll
We use the K2KQ inspired vertical dipole at PJ4K for 160.  Top's at 
about 135 feet and bottom at 30 feet.  We opted for this approach so 
that there's no fighting the cactus to install ground-mounted radials.  
If we can ever get back to the island, we have all the pieces ready to 
put up a phased pair of these antennas.


If you decide to go with this antenna, make sure you consider effects of 
the vertical supports.  We ended up de-tuning our 140-foot towers.


73 charlie, k1xx

On 5/7/2021 1:31 PM, John Crovelli wrote:

For those who have limited space and are unable to lay out an effective ground 
system, the vertical dipole offers a very worthwhile alternative to an 
Inverted-L or low Inverted-V.

It is relatively easy to build, install, and tune.  The K2KQ article has been 
followed by hundreds with success.

Vertical dipoles on 160 meters have been in place at P40W and P40L for a decade 
or more.  Small footprint, vertical polarization and no ground system were the 
design parameters that prevailed.

73, John W2GD/P40W/P44W
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Re: Topband: Vertical Dipoles on 160 Meters

2021-05-07 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist

On 5/7/2021 10:31 AM, John Crovelli wrote:
For those who have limited space and are unable to lay out an 
effective ground system, the vertical dipole offers a very worthwhile 
alternative to an Inverted-L or low Inverted-V.


I think of this as essentially an inverted-L with one elevated
radial ... driven at the second harmonic.  It seems to me it
would work work better with 2 or 4 radials, and with 2 or 4
top loading wires.  And it can be driven with a common mode
choke at the bottom of the vertical section.

Rick N6RK
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Re: Topband: Vertical Dipoles on 160 Meters

2021-05-07 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/7/2021 10:31 AM, John Crovelli wrote:

For those who have limited space and are unable to lay out an effective ground 
system, the vertical dipole offers a very worthwhile alternative to an 
Inverted-L or low Inverted-V.


Yes, and so is the end-loading technique shown in the K2KQ design. N6BT 
has used it extensively in his designs, and W6GJB and I have used it for 
portable designs for county expeditions and Field Day. The Hy-Gain 
AV-series and Cushcraft R-series antennas are loaded and trapped 
vertical dipoles.


VK4YB's 630m end-fed, end-loaded designs for 630m are an even more 
innovative design -- I helped W6GJB tailor one of those designs to his 
real estate, and Glen has worked Roger on that band. See VK4YB's qrz page.


The key to these designs is realizing that it's current that does the 
radiating, and maximizing the current in vertical section of the 
antenna. I do this in NEC by studying the display of current in the View 
Antenna window.


73, Jim K9YC


It is relatively easy to build, install, and tune.  The K2KQ article has been 
followed by hundreds with success.



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Topband: Vertical Dipoles on 160 Meters

2021-05-07 Thread John Crovelli
For those who have limited space and are unable to lay out an effective ground 
system, the vertical dipole offers a very worthwhile alternative to an 
Inverted-L or low Inverted-V.

It is relatively easy to build, install, and tune.  The K2KQ article has been 
followed by hundreds with success.

Vertical dipoles on 160 meters have been in place at P40W and P40L for a decade 
or more.  Small footprint, vertical polarization and no ground system were the 
design parameters that prevailed.

73, John W2GD/P40W/P44W
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