Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-28 Thread Holger Knublauch 
There is also the Triples view of TBC. If you move an rdf:type triple, 
then the system will also try to move all "depending" triples of that 
subject. To move things into a file that is not imported, just add it as 
a temporary import.


Holger


On 28/04/2017 23:59, Jack Hodges wrote:

Hey guys, thanks for looking at this problem. @holger, I also usually use to 
raw view to move items around, but since the items are alphabetized I have to 
find the start and end points of the items to move and that can be time 
consuming. In this particular case it is the sheer number of items (100K items) 
that makes that awkward. I will certainly try what Irene is suggesting on a 
small set to see how it works.

Jack



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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-28 Thread Jack Hodges 
Hey guys, thanks for looking at this problem. @holger, I also usually use to 
raw view to move items around, but since the items are alphabetized I have to 
find the start and end points of the items to move and that can be time 
consuming. In this particular case it is the sheer number of items (100K items) 
that makes that awkward. I will certainly try what Irene is suggesting on a 
small set to see how it works.

Jack

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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-27 Thread Irene Polikoff 
True …

Just noticed that I said "any view (including Navigator)”. Meant to say "any 
view (including Basket)”.

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Holger Knublauch  wrote:
> 
> This is indeed a tricky operation to get right. In practice I often use the 
> source code editors to move triples around.
> 
> Holger
> 
> 
> On 28/04/2017 3:15, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>> Jack,
>> 
>> I can confirm this, need to investigate.
>> 
>> However:
>> 
>> 1. You can perform the same operation by selecting resources in any view 
>> (including Navigator) and dragging them onto another graph in the Navigator. 
>> 2. Having said this, moving resources from one graph to another can have 
>> some unintended consequences in terms of controlling what triples stay and 
>> what triples go. You will have better control and predictability if you move 
>> triples in the Triples view. You can select the exact triples you want to 
>> move and drag and drop them to another graph.
>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Jack Hodges >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Irene,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your note. I found that I could select all items of an 
>>> rdf:type and put them into the basket. VERY helpful. Then I selected all of 
>>> them and selected the "perform batch operations" menu item. Then I selected 
>>> the "Move to another graph" menu item. All good up to here. But the graph I 
>>> wanted to move to doesn't show up in the list of possible graphs, and I 
>>> cannot override with 'my' graph because TBC says that there is no such 
>>> graph. Of course there is such a graph because I have it open in front of 
>>> me and I can check to see its base URI and that it is correct (and I can 
>>> even copy and paste it into the 'move' dialog and get the same complaint). 
>>> I'll try closing all graphs and see if the problem persists (I am getting a 
>>> lot of that these days).
>>> 
>>> Jack
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>>> Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the menu select 
>>> “perform batch operations”. You will then see a choice of several batch 
>>> operations.
>>> 
 On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges  wrote:fibo-fnd-arr-arr:
 
 Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a basket, or a 
 SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform operations on them, one 
 of which was to change their base URI (their graph). This would have been 
 quite useful to me today but I could not remember how to do it, or even if 
 it is still supported. Is it?
 
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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-27 Thread Holger Knublauch 
This is indeed a tricky operation to get right. In practice I often use 
the source code editors to move triples around.


Holger


On 28/04/2017 3:15, Irene Polikoff wrote:

Jack,

I can confirm this, need to investigate.

However:

1. You can perform the same operation by selecting resources in any 
view (including Navigator) and dragging them onto another graph in the 
Navigator.
2. Having said this, moving resources from one graph to another can 
have some unintended consequences in terms of controlling what triples 
stay and what triples go. You will have better control and 
predictability if you move triples in the Triples view. You can select 
the exact triples you want to move and drag and drop them to another 
graph.


On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Jack Hodges > wrote:


Irene,

Thank you for your note. I found that I could select all items of an 
rdf:type and put them into the basket. VERY helpful. Then I selected 
all of them and selected the "perform batch operations" menu item. 
Then I selected the "Move to another graph" menu item. All good up to 
here. But the graph I wanted to move to doesn't show up in the list 
of possible graphs, and I cannot override with 'my' graph because TBC 
says that there is no such graph. Of course there is such a graph 
because I have it open in front of me and I can check to see its base 
URI and that it is correct (and I can even copy and paste it into the 
'move' dialog and get the same complaint). I'll try closing all 
graphs and see if the problem persists (I am getting a lot of that 
these days).


Jack

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:

Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the
menu select “perform batch operations”. You will then see a
choice of several batch operations.


On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges  wrote:fibo-fnd-arr-arr:

Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a
basket, or a SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform
operations on them, one of which was to change their base URI
(their graph). This would have been quite useful to me today but
I could not remember how to do it, or even if it is still
supported. Is it?

Jack Hodges

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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-27 Thread Pat Doyle 
The dropdown looks to populate with only the graphs(and their imports) that
are imported into the graph the triples exist in.  If you (temporarily) add
an import of the vocab graph into the schema graph, it should then become
available in the dropdown.

Pat

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Irene Polikoff 
wrote:

> Jack,
>
> I can confirm this, need to investigate.
>
> However:
>
> 1. You can perform the same operation by selecting resources in any view
> (including Navigator) and dragging them onto another graph in the
> Navigator.
> 2. Having said this, moving resources from one graph to another can have
> some unintended consequences in terms of controlling what triples stay and
> what triples go. You will have better control and predictability if you
> move triples in the Triples view. You can select the exact triples you want
> to move and drag and drop them to another graph.
>
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Jack Hodges  wrote:
>
> Irene,
>
> Thank you for your note. I found that I could select all items of an
> rdf:type and put them into the basket. VERY helpful. Then I selected all of
> them and selected the "perform batch operations" menu item. Then I selected
> the "Move to another graph" menu item. All good up to here. But the graph I
> wanted to move to doesn't show up in the list of possible graphs, and I
> cannot override with 'my' graph because TBC says that there is no such
> graph. Of course there is such a graph because I have it open in front of
> me and I can check to see its base URI and that it is correct (and I can
> even copy and paste it into the 'move' dialog and get the same complaint).
> I'll try closing all graphs and see if the problem persists (I am getting a
> lot of that these days).
>
> Jack
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>>
>> Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the menu
>> select “perform batch operations”. You will then see a choice of several
>> batch operations.
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges 
>> wrote:fibo-fnd-arr-arr:
>>
>> Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a basket, or
>> a SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform operations on them, one
>> of which was to change their base URI (their graph). This would have been
>> quite useful to me today but I could not remember how to do it, or even if
>> it is still supported. Is it?
>>
>> Jack Hodges
>>
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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-27 Thread Irene Polikoff 
Jack,

I can confirm this, need to investigate.

However:

1. You can perform the same operation by selecting resources in any view 
(including Navigator) and dragging them onto another graph in the Navigator. 
2. Having said this, moving resources from one graph to another can have some 
unintended consequences in terms of controlling what triples stay and what 
triples go. You will have better control and predictability if you move triples 
in the Triples view. You can select the exact triples you want to move and drag 
and drop them to another graph.

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Jack Hodges  wrote:
> 
> Irene,
> 
> Thank you for your note. I found that I could select all items of an rdf:type 
> and put them into the basket. VERY helpful. Then I selected all of them and 
> selected the "perform batch operations" menu item. Then I selected the "Move 
> to another graph" menu item. All good up to here. But the graph I wanted to 
> move to doesn't show up in the list of possible graphs, and I cannot override 
> with 'my' graph because TBC says that there is no such graph. Of course there 
> is such a graph because I have it open in front of me and I can check to see 
> its base URI and that it is correct (and I can even copy and paste it into 
> the 'move' dialog and get the same complaint). I'll try closing all graphs 
> and see if the problem persists (I am getting a lot of that these days).
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:
> Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the menu select 
> “perform batch operations”. You will then see a choice of several batch 
> operations.
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges  
>> wrote:fibo-fnd-arr-arr:
>> 
>> Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a basket, or a 
>> SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform operations on them, one of 
>> which was to change their base URI (their graph). This would have been quite 
>> useful to me today but I could not remember how to do it, or even if it is 
>> still supported. Is it?
>> 
>> Jack Hodges
>> 
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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-27 Thread Jack Hodges 
I tried closing all graphs and retrying. No go. Then I shut TBC down, 
restarted, reloaded the graph, and retried. Still no go. I do not 
understand why a graph I have no problem loading is not recognized for this 
kind of operation. Is it possible that it won't recognize a graph that 
imports the graph that the instances are currently in, because I am trying 
to move these instances from a schema graph to a vocab graph (that imports 
the schema graph).

Jack

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>
> Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the menu 
> select “perform batch operations”. You will then see a choice of several 
> batch operations.
>
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges  
> wrote:
>
> Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a basket, or a 
> SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform operations on them, one 
> of which was to change their base URI (their graph). This would have been 
> quite useful to me today but I could not remember how to do it, or even if 
> it is still supported. Is it?
>
> Jack Hodges
>
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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-27 Thread Jack Hodges 
Irene,

Thank you for your note. I found that I could select all items of an 
rdf:type and put them into the basket. VERY helpful. Then I selected all of 
them and selected the "perform batch operations" menu item. Then I selected 
the "Move to another graph" menu item. All good up to here. But the graph I 
wanted to move to doesn't show up in the list of possible graphs, and I 
cannot override with 'my' graph because TBC says that there is no such 
graph. Of course there is such a graph because I have it open in front of 
me and I can check to see its base URI and that it is correct (and I can 
even copy and paste it into the 'move' dialog and get the same complaint). 
I'll try closing all graphs and see if the problem persists (I am getting a 
lot of that these days).

Jack

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-7, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>
> Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the menu 
> select “perform batch operations”. You will then see a choice of several 
> batch operations.
>
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges  
> wrote:
>
> Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a basket, or a 
> SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform operations on them, one 
> of which was to change their base URI (their graph). This would have been 
> quite useful to me today but I could not remember how to do it, or even if 
> it is still supported. Is it?
>
> Jack Hodges
>
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Re: [topbraid-users] Moving items from one graph to another

2017-04-25 Thread Irene Polikoff 
Put a resource (s) into the basket, select it and then from the menu select 
“perform batch operations”. You will then see a choice of several batch 
operations.

> On Apr 25, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Jack Hodges  wrote:
> 
> Back in 2012 there was an ability in TBC to select items in a basket, or a 
> SPARQL result (I do not recall which) and perform operations on them, one of 
> which was to change their base URI (their graph). This would have been quite 
> useful to me today but I could not remember how to do it, or even if it is 
> still supported. Is it?
> 
> Jack Hodges
> 
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