Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
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 Reporter:  Rezonansowy  |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  new
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  AffectsTails, GeorgKoppen201902, |  Actual Points:
  TorBrowserTeam201902   |
Parent ID:  #24855   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by intrigeri):

 Replying to [comment:18 gk]:
 > One thing that would be good to know is whether _all_ Torbutton features
 should be disabled or just, say, the Tor proxy related ones (I could
 easily see why the unsecure browser in Tails could have the external
 helper app warning dialog enabled (which is covered by an own pref anyway)
 or similar non-proxy features).

 Sorry for the delay! I think it's fine for us to have only the proxy
 features disabled, if this makes things easier for you.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
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 Reporter:  Rezonansowy  |  Owner:  tbb-
 |  team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  new
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser |Version:
 Severity:  Normal   | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901,|  Actual Points:
  GeorgKoppen201901, AffectsTails|
Parent ID:  #24855   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by gk):

 * keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901, AffectsTails => TorBrowserTeam201901,
 GeorgKoppen201901, AffectsTails


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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
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 Reporter:  Rezonansowy |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect  | Status:  new
 Priority:  High|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901, AffectsTails  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #24855  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:17 intrigeri]:
 > Replying to [comment:16 gk]:
 > > Replying to [comment:15 intrigeri]:
 > > > FTR, Tails' "Unsafe Browser" is basically Tor Browser, with
 Torbutton disabled and a scary homepage. It would be nice if there were
 still a hidden way for us to disable Torbutton for that browser profile.
 > >
 > > I see. I'll keep that in mind and I guess we could make a hidden pref
 available or something.
 >
 > Great :)

 FWIW: integration of the various Torbutton pieces directly into the
 browser (without having an extension-like thing to disable anymore) might
 complicate the pref plan but it should still be possible. One thing that
 would be good to know is whether _all_ Torbutton features should be
 disabled or just, say, the Tor proxy related ones (I could easily see why
 the unsecure browser in Tails could have the external helper app warning
 dialog enabled (which is covered by an own pref anyway) or similar non-
 proxy features).

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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
+--
 Reporter:  Rezonansowy |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect  | Status:  new
 Priority:  High|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901, AffectsTails  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #24855  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by intrigeri):

 Replying to [comment:16 gk]:
 > Replying to [comment:15 intrigeri]:
 > > FTR, Tails' "Unsafe Browser" is basically Tor Browser, with Torbutton
 disabled and a scary homepage. It would be nice if there were still a
 hidden way for us to disable Torbutton for that browser profile.
 >
 > I see. I'll keep that in mind and I guess we could make a hidden pref
 available or something.

 Great :)

 > But this should land in alphas definitely way before we start the esr68
 transition. So, my current plan is to have this in Tor Browser 9.0a1,
 which should get out end of March/begin of April.

 Thanks, now tracking this on
 https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/issues/16357.

 > FWIW: you might be interested in #28044, too.

 Yep, this one is on our radar (we discussed it in the roadmap thread :)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
+--
 Reporter:  Rezonansowy |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect  | Status:  new
 Priority:  High|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901, AffectsTails  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #24855  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:15 intrigeri]:
 > FTR, Tails' "Unsafe Browser" is basically Tor Browser, with Torbutton
 disabled and a scary homepage. It would be nice if there were still a
 hidden way for us to disable Torbutton for that browser profile.

 I see. I'll keep that in mind and I guess we could make a hidden pref
 available or something.

 > Otherwise, we'll have to ship binaries for another browser, which will
 make our ISO and upgrade delta significantly bigger. In order to plan
 Tails work on this topic, I need to know whether it'll still be possible
 to disable Torbutton somehow, and if not, I would be very grateful to
 learn what's the timeline is here, e.g. whether the plan is to ship this
 change in Tor Browser 8.5. Thanks in advance! Please let me know if you
 need additional info from me to answer my questions :)

 We didn't plan to have the option of disabling Torbutton. But we can try
 to make that happen. I doubt we'll have this ready for 8.5. I mean we
 probably could but I think we should have some more time to test this, in
 particular as there are downstream projects that might be affected by
 this. But this should land in alphas definitely way before we start the
 esr68 transition. So, my current plan is to have this in Tor Browser
 9.0a1, which should get out end of March/begin of April.

 FWIW: you might be interested in #28044, too.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
+--
 Reporter:  Rezonansowy |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect  | Status:  new
 Priority:  High|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser|Version:
 Severity:  Normal  | Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901, AffectsTails  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #24855  | Points:
 Reviewer:  |Sponsor:
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Changes (by intrigeri):

 * keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901 => TorBrowserTeam201901, AffectsTails


Comment:

 FTR, Tails' "Unsafe Browser" is basically Tor Browser, with Torbutton
 disabled and a scary homepage. It would be nice if there were still a
 hidden way for us to disable Torbutton for that browser profile.
 Otherwise, we'll have to ship binaries for another browser, which will
 make our ISO and upgrade delta significantly bigger. In order to plan
 Tails work on this topic, I need to know whether it'll still be possible
 to disable Torbutton somehow, and if not, I would be very grateful to
 learn what's the timeline is here, e.g. whether the plan is to ship this
 change in Tor Browser 8.5. Thanks in advance! Please let me know if you
 need additional info from me to answer my questions :)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
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 Reporter:  Rezonansowy   |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  High  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #24855| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Changes (by intrigeri):

 * cc: intrigeri (added)


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Re: [tor-bugs] #10760 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling them (was: Integrate TorButton and TorLauncher to TorBrowser core to prevent us

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#10760: Integrate TorButton to TorBrowser core to prevent users from disabling 
them
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 Reporter:  Rezonansowy   |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  High  |  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  TorBrowserTeam201901  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:  #24855| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Changes (by gk):

 * cc: igt0 (added)
 * keywords:  needs-triage => TorBrowserTeam201901


Comment:

 That's the ticket for Torbutton now. The one for Tor Launcher is #28044.

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