Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
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Changes (by dmr):

 * cc: dmr (added)


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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by linda):

 Replying to [comment:10 gk]:
 > FWIW: We should consider the case where websites can't get rendered at
 all due to some slider setting (see: #23324 where disabling SVG is causing
 this). Those might be cases where no blocking icon on the page can be
 shown (I have not looked closer at that). And having such cases + plus
 cases where we *would show* an icon is pretty confusing.

 This is a good point. Hmm...

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by gk):

 FWIW: We should consider the case where websites can't get rendered at all
 due to some slider setting (see: #23324 where disabling SVG is causing
 this). Those might be cases where no blocking icon on the page can be
 shown (I have not looked closer at that). And having such cases + plus
 cases where we *would show* an icon is pretty confusing.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by gk):

 Replying to [comment:7 linda]:
 > Thanks for the clarification, cypherpunk. :)
 >
 > I can see when Noscript could override the security settings and allow
 scripts to run, but could it also block scripts? I'm imagining that I have
 my security settings on low, but then I click the "Forbid Scripts
 Globally" option.

 Yes, it could.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
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Comment (by brade):

 For me, seeing a small onion icon does not convey that an image didn't
 load or that something is "broken."  The onion should be something more.
 Perhaps it could have a frame around it (octagon? I'm not sure if that is
 universal and it doesn't quite mean blocked)?  I think it is important
 that the icon convey a "broken" state or "blocked" state.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by linda):

 Thanks for the clarification, cypherpunk. :)

 I can see when Noscript could override the security settings and allow
 scripts to run, but could it also block scripts? I'm imagining that I have
 my security settings on low, but then I click the "Forbid Scripts
 Globally" option.

 I really wished that it couldn't, and Tor has the final say in blocking
 all things, and Noscript allows the exceptions, because that would make it
 easier to understand/it makes sense to just use the onion icon drawn above
 to indicate that something has been blocked on purpose/isn't broken. But I
 have a feeling it might not be the case..

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by cypherpunks):

 Replying to [comment:5 linda]:
 > I also don't know what technically happens if you have "Allow Scripts
 Globally" on NoScript but put your Security Slider setting on High (which
 supposedly blocks javascript).
 >
 > I don't know if it blocks javascript if one of the two settings are set,
 or if the Security Slider sets the NoScript options when you choose high
 but it's overwritten if you toggle the Noscript afterwards... So this
 really depends. Clarification is welcome here.

 With Security Settings set to High and toggling on NoScript's "Allow
 Scripts Globally" or the other option for allowing it on a single site
 will indeed allow JS to run globally/on specific site.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by linda):

 Antonela, great work!

 I agree that we should have it dependent on who is doing the blocking.
 Sometimes, it's NoScript, but sometimes, it might be the Security Slider
 settings. I also don't know what technically happens if you have "Allow
 Scripts Globally" on NoScript but put your Security Slider setting on High
 (which supposedly blocks javascript).

 I don't know if it blocks javascript if one of the two settings are set,
 or if the Security Slider sets the NoScript options when you choose high
 but it's overwritten if you toggle the Noscript afterwards... So this
 really depends. Clarification is welcome here.

 I think it ''could'' be the case that Tor's security preferences are
 blocking the media. In this case, I say we use the purple onion. All of
 our onions are purple, so it would be good to keep with the theme!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
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Comment (by antonela):

 Is TOR who is blocking this image/content? or is NoScript?

 If is NoScript, I'd like to suggest keeping the same contextual menu we
 have at the top bar and allow the user to show the content if they want to
 [we can add a line about how dangerous it could be].

 If is TOR, I'm 100% in with your approach.
 I'm attaching a mockup and the onion icon to use.

 I made 2 options, green and purple. And also a quick mockup to show how it
 will look.

 **Mockups**
 Before
 https://share.riseup.net/#SUZ7tGEG3c1dpzl6lpgP1w

 After -  Green
 https://share.riseup.net/#tZWiVAdViU486qOyXunowg

 After - Purple
 https://share.riseup.net/#t8ZgbRcHcwGdtm8SE1egoA

 ** Assets [green and purple] **
 https://share.riseup.net/#cum4BGLtJWOm_Iy8VZJUPw

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
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Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
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Comment (by gk):

 Related: #20314.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
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Comment (by arthuredelstein):

 Some features could be click to play. Other blocked features don't have a
 visible location in content, but could perhaps be listed in a popup,
 similar to how Privacy Badger counts trackers.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal| Resolution:
 Keywords:  ux-team,  |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:| Points:
 Reviewer:|Sponsor:
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Description changed by linda:

Old description:

> Tor Browser blocks certain features, and especially so if the user is
> using the the highest security setting. Currently, there is nothing
> distinguishing elements on a page which were legitimately broken versus
> ones that were blocked.
>
> Instead of the broken image icon, it would be ideal to have another icon
> (onion icon?) there instead if it was blocked, to indicate that it's not
> broken, and Tor Browser is working as intended. Adding a popup on hover
> or click to describe why it was blocked would be even better! I've mocked
> this up below.

New description:

 Tor Browser blocks certain features, and especially so if the user is
 using the the highest security setting. Currently, there is nothing
 distinguishing elements on a page which were legitimately broken versus
 ones that were blocked.

 Instead of the broken image icon, it would be ideal to have another icon
 (onion icon?) there instead if it was blocked, to indicate that it's not
 broken, and Tor Browser is working as intended. Adding a popup on hover or
 click to describe why it was blocked would be even better! I've mocked
 this up below.

 [[Image(page-with-broken-icon.png, 300px)]]

 [[Image(page-with-onion-icon.png,600px)]]

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[tor-bugs] #22785 [Applications/Tor Browser]: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.

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#22785: Show an alternative icon for features that are blocked and not broken.
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 Reporter:  linda |  Owner:  tbb-team
 Type:  defect| Status:  new
 Priority:  Medium|  Milestone:
Component:  Applications/Tor Browser  |Version:
 Severity:  Normal|   Keywords:  ux-team,
Actual Points:|  Parent ID:
   Points:|   Reviewer:
  Sponsor:|
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 Tor Browser blocks certain features, and especially so if the user is
 using the the highest security setting. Currently, there is nothing
 distinguishing elements on a page which were legitimately broken versus
 ones that were blocked.

 Instead of the broken image icon, it would be ideal to have another icon
 (onion icon?) there instead if it was blocked, to indicate that it's not
 broken, and Tor Browser is working as intended. Adding a popup on hover or
 click to describe why it was blocked would be even better! I've mocked
 this up below.

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