Re: [tor-dev] tor's definition of 'median'

2015-08-12 Thread nusenu
from today's measurement meeting:

 15:00:20 virgil karsten: I've decided I'm going to fix the definition of 
 median
 15:00:26 virgil in the tor sourcecode
 15:00:36 karsten virgil: is it broken?
 15:00:53 karsten or just not specified as clearly as it should be?
 15:01:01 virgil for ordered list {a,b,c,d}, it returns b instead of (b+c)/2.
 15:01:24 karsten yes. maybe that's for a reason (which I don't know).
 15:01:40 virgil I look forward to hearing this reason when my patch is 
 rejected.
 15:01:41 karsten like, using value (b+c)/2 would break for some reason, 
 whereas any of a, b, c, d would be fine.
 15:01:45 Sebastian you cannot do that
 15:01:51 Sebastian without breaking Tor's voting
 15:02:21 Sebastian Tor's specification requires low median for a bunch of 
 directory stuff


I'd be interested in the reason as well.






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Re: [tor-dev] [important] sponsors deliverables discussion point for Wed's meeting

2015-08-12 Thread Isabela
Alright, now sending the list to CC and directly emailing the team.

Notes from today about this and 0.2.7 freeze.

For sponsor deliverables / please add your name on the 'who can do it'
column if you can pick up a task. We will be checking this spreadsheet
on our meetings till the sponsors deadline to make sure we are not
forgetting any task behind :)

On the spreadsheet:

  * Row 5 is top priority right now since is a dependency for Row 6
  * Some of the documentation tasks could be done in a collaborative way
/ if you want to share a pad please add a link to it at the spreadsheet.


About 0.2.7 freeze:
Please review what you tagged for August and is part of 0.2.7 / not all
the things we triaged for it will make it in but lets make sure what we
have prioritized for August can make it.

Check meetbot logs for the source! :)
cheers,
isabela

On 08/10/2015 01:57 PM, Isabela wrote:
 Hello Core Tor folks!

 Note: if you are not a contractor or full time you can ignore this
 email, it is about paid deliverables.

 Me and Nick have been working on documenting the current status of our
 deliverables for the year to Sponsor S [project year ends on October]
 and Sponsor U [project year ends on November]. The result gave us a
 clear picture of where we need your help with. Please take a look at:

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dTva10mu-FcX8KrxRjgkFvHSyNy7aBpD9xehNuUeZ-4/edit?usp=sharing

 For Wednesday we want to figure out how can people jump in and help on
 these tasks. Right now we have a lot assigned to Nick and is a big red
 flag that we won't make it. Not to mention that Nick also has to carry
 on other work and to do both is just impossible.

 Please take a look, ask questions and lets figure out how we can
 conclude all this tasks. Priorities are:

   * Rows 5  6
   * And any help on the other tasks that are all about writing docs
 (rows 12, 13, 15, 16, 17)
   * Or maybe help out with the final push for Sponsor S tasks

 We will be adding the related tickets (column H) later today so you can
 take a look before the meeting on Wednesday.

 thanks!
 isabela



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[tor-dev] IMPT -- Re: Future Onion Addresses and Human Factors

2015-08-12 Thread Alec Muffett
Aside: in pursuit of helping Jake register “.onion” as a special name” in an 
RFC, I am currently being beaten-up on the IETF discussion mail-list regards 
the potential future length of onion addresses, and that they may possibly 
exceed the bounds of DNS’ maximum label length of 63 characters:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg94332.html 
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg94332.html

The examples in Proposal 224 are a mere 53 characters long leaving 10 to play 
with for padding-hyphens and possibly checksum characters.

Nick: Is this likely to need to change? Or might there be a need to encode  
315 bits / 63 chars total?

-a

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Security Infrastructure
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Re: [tor-dev] IMPT -- Re: Future Onion Addresses and Human Factors

2015-08-12 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Alec Muffett al...@fb.com wrote:
 Aside: in pursuit of helping Jake register “.onion” as a special name” in
 an RFC, I am currently being beaten-up on the IETF discussion mail-list
 regards the potential future length of onion addresses, and that they may
 possibly exceed the bounds of DNS’ maximum label length of 63 characters:

 https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg94332.html

 The examples in Proposal 224 are a mere 53 characters long leaving 10 to
 play with for padding-hyphens and possibly checksum characters.

 Nick: Is this likely to need to change? Or might there be a need to encode 
 315 bits / 63 chars total?

I don't anticipate this changing.

If there were ever a need to encode more than that number of bits,
we'd add an extra label.
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