Re: [tor-dev] Help me guague how full your plate is via regular check-in conversations

2013-11-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Tom,

being the admin for groups is a thankless task! I've mentioned a couple of
times that the tor project does have availability of a spare VM with unique
IPv4 for testing on. This offer has never been taken up. I'm a tester, not
a coder, as I already run a relay I'm not sure what else I can do to assist
you good people.

My kindest regards,

Phill.
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On 29 October 2013 18:30, Tom Lowenthal m...@tomlowenthal.com wrote:

 Hello fighters for freedom,

 When applying for grants, planning future work, and otherwise thinking
 about what capacity we have leftover to do things in the future, it's
 really useful to know who's doing what and how much of it. I get some
 of this information from our sponsor/project-specific meetings, but it
 doesn't seem to be the full picture, so I'd like to trot out that old
 chestnut of regular one-on-one chats.

 This means that I'd like to spend between thirty and sixty minutes
 talking with each of you, once every week or two. I'd like to
 calibrate the frequency so that we can get calls down to 30 minutes
 each, with room to kvetch and have a conversation that's a little more
 than just rattling off deliverable status and time assignments.

 I think that the right group for this is the folks who post to
 tor-reports. If you post to tor-reports, please get back to me by the
 end of the week with your availability for a regular weekly check-in,
 as well as any thoughts you have about medium, format, or anything
 else. If you're not currently on tor-reports and think you should
 check in, or vice versa, you should probably drop me a line too.

 Any questions or suggestions?

 -Tom
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Re: [tor-dev] Help me guague how full your plate is via regular check-in conversations

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Lowenthal
Howdy folks,

I've heard back from some of y'all about getting regular chats
scheduled (and have even scheduled some!). Thanks. I haven't heard
back from everyone, so if you write to tor-reports, you should also
write back to schedule some time. This is just a reminder that you
should totally do that thing.

Also, know this: I am quite amenable to all kinds of communications.
I'd like something real-time, so email, regular mail, Pond, and
carrier Pigeons aren't great. However, XMPP, IRC, Ostel [that's SIP
with ZRTP], and all sorts of other things which aren't really words
but are totally ways of talking are great. I will even install Skype
if you ask me to, but I'll judge you for it, (just a little).

One moderately-F AQ on my previous mail pertained to **who exactly**
should talk to me. If you should email tor-reports monthly, you
should talk to me. If Tor gives you money, that probably means you. If
you volunteer on a project for which other people give Tor money, that
also means you. If you think you might be a person who wants to work
on a project for which people give Tor money (and perhaps even get
paid for it), that might mean you too, and if I know what you want to
do, there's a slightly-increased likelihood of us pitching someone
doing that thing.

Hope to hear from you soon,
-Tom

On 29 October 2013 11:30, Tom Lowenthal m...@tomlowenthal.com wrote:
 Hello fighters for freedom,

 When applying for grants, planning future work, and otherwise thinking
 about what capacity we have leftover to do things in the future, it's
 really useful to know who's doing what and how much of it. I get some
 of this information from our sponsor/project-specific meetings, but it
 doesn't seem to be the full picture, so I'd like to trot out that old
 chestnut of regular one-on-one chats.

 This means that I'd like to spend between thirty and sixty minutes
 talking with each of you, once every week or two. I'd like to
 calibrate the frequency so that we can get calls down to 30 minutes
 each, with room to kvetch and have a conversation that's a little more
 than just rattling off deliverable status and time assignments.

 I think that the right group for this is the folks who post to
 tor-reports. If you post to tor-reports, please get back to me by the
 end of the week with your availability for a regular weekly check-in,
 as well as any thoughts you have about medium, format, or anything
 else. If you're not currently on tor-reports and think you should
 check in, or vice versa, you should probably drop me a line too.

 Any questions or suggestions?

 -Tom
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Re: [tor-dev] Help me guague how full your plate is via regular check-in conversations

2013-10-30 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:30:24AM -0700, Tom Lowenthal wrote:
 When applying for grants, planning future work, and otherwise thinking
 about what capacity we have leftover to do things in the future, it's
 really useful to know who's doing what and how much of it. I get some
 of this information from our sponsor/project-specific meetings, but it
 doesn't seem to be the full picture, so I'd like to trot out that old
 chestnut of regular one-on-one chats.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking this on.

 This means that I'd like to spend between thirty and sixty minutes
 talking with each of you, once every week or two. I'd like to
 calibrate the frequency so that we can get calls down to 30 minutes
 each, with room to kvetch and have a conversation that's a little more
 than just rattling off deliverable status and time assignments.

Sounds good. But since you snuck the word 'calls' in there, let me suggest
that you be flexible with each person about how they most efficiently
interact. Some people will prefer phone calls, others scheduled irc
meetings, and maybe others will work best with unscheduled irc meetings --
i.e. if they're on irc a lot it might be best just to catch them when
they have a free moment and get an update, rather than spending time
and effort on cordoning off some specific piece of the future.

There's a clear tradeoff here between makes things more complicated for
Tom and makes things more complicated for everybody else. I guess the
trick will be finding the right balance so you can keep up with everybody
while minimizing your impact on their ability to get work done. But I
want to emphasize that while some people want managers (tell me what
to do next), others want coordinators (here's what I've been doing,
please let other people know as needed) and there are probably more
than just these two categories too. Try not to cut off the parts of
people that don't fit in the cookie-cutter mold. :)

Or to make the questions more concrete, a) I assume you would prefer a
more realtime interaction, rather than say email; but b) how do these
meetings relate to, augment, or replace monthly tor-reports mails,
which I remember you once declared an interest in obsoleting?

Thanks!
--Roger

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Re: [tor-dev] Help me guague how full your plate is via regular check-in conversations

2013-10-30 Thread Griffin Boyce
On 10/29/2013 07:30 PM, Tom Lowenthal wrote:
 Any questions or suggestions?

 -Tom

  Is this a tor dev thing, or a devs who work on tor-related projects
but who are not part of tor thing?

~Griffin

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