[tor-relays] Rebooted Relay, Got a Warning
I just rebooted my relay after reducing the RelayBandwidthRate and RelayBandwidthBurst parameters. Upon checking the log-file, I see the following messages: Aug 25 13:40:00.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 90%: Establishing a Tor circuit. Aug 25 13:40:05.000 [warn] Problem bootstrapping. Stuck at 90%: Establishing a Tor circuit. (Connection refused; CONNECTREFUSED; count 10; recommendation warn) Aug 25 13:40:05.000 [warn] 9 connections have failed: Aug 25 13:40:05.000 [warn] 9 connections died in state connect()ing with SSL state (No SSL object) Aug 25 13:40:05.000 [notice] Tor has successfully opened a circuit. Looks like client functionality is working. That's a new message to me, is there any reason to be concerned? It obviously eventually managed to establish a circuit, but it still has me slightly concerned. Many Thanks Samuel Walker PGP/GPG Key ID: B2AD23C1 (Full: 2E72E17CB2AD23C1) http://www.samuelwalker.me.uk/pgpgpg-key/ signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
[tor-relays] help with relay and bridges
Hello all, been feeling helpless and have decided to at the least get a few relay's and bridges up and running and hopefuly learn enough in the process to help/teach others to do the same. Although for many it is a simple task, for many many more who would like to help it is no easy task and there is lots of uncertanty and questions if one does managage to get a relay up when they are not sure what they are doing. I understand these are elementary issues and that is why as a non-programmer of Security expert I would like to help where and when I can and with a little help from some or even one of you I hope that I can help others while taking some strain off the real minds. Many others like me exist and want to help. I am asking for someone to help me help others. Thank you g...@gmx.us -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) mQENBFFn+3IBCAD0cqkxl7t+5Kychbzqaf/Wn8z3B5UCQYZk77I1sZj5sZCNhoCw bne6Q2L6SAk/K81C6ih0X1quTiCX65XmyEzjADX61CMMqwot4DZpt0Iahsp3JQbV zGryYn4fLjOO1r3pPg100luD2C37oNfOZmUhvHgtyLMTpCGBD3O8LF7p7/POLraH uYcFx0oXN5+P2xrp0MxJazxgRpKNW+00Q5t3vyzejF9z8zaw/yOrcip/5Bz8kYwh +dTjxudmV9R/bKhyRrtLaIfdM4UyvAIgGAL224kRBT+YfNouKEWRqA55HSTdKFnt sqlbV4bJ9vzZwFKiyG/r2L0eJtAaYuJLHBRrABEBAAG0GWsgPHJpZ2h0Y29hc3Q3 N0BodXNoLmNvbT6JAT4EEwECACgFAlFn+3ICGyMFCQlmAYAGCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkK CwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEL/qyBxVCbTig6sIAKIo00P0XH5a/JrBEkiqU4cE9z2F GAGBs3xKO1gFbkyM6AG/8bqSlKmUqYcuZ64kQFXDidXATtyhJCK8gH/AdRv1jEIh FmZZDK2Y94lkdxiN4MVvjTOM+Lmze+C6hM7UZY+sq2ZeVfkA5kbqgPCMB5XJu0Ff xuUBFoicXDy4eegAQEP7VGep/Uxc3q40SJWeF08TNx5GliA8TNAR8hPs4C41oicF qoXiAyG9JKJlBSS02H6zHQGK/S5ma5xYPjh+GCLiRA+UjuHQa+fBoTPVTR0w63h1 iHZA44SZYffi6NfKEvmGz0WwsvxmyM78B4oKtqNseCtAGc2mEusfVrJkY8e5AQ0E UWf7cgEIAMSh0dg9JY8VDPyRSzJCoghYrjAbbY67i7JdxTtqUvR4CV7jg5Oy1OWi fTAgwMFL/seVihozUYA+0justddC5wDJK6YvULDBh43dCrZyUMLMjtHodtORAcXM uQm67MWYX1E5HH+x0nVIbP1O7GjjWzu7EkGqnqpBr+DI/tfVbfDKL6xjRoE3rO7h Tl9i7sc7QIcRiK3ZP6S2Agr8W5nCQxNXSFSh1chMdxAedkRNEbzyU3wnU+aUw4VU FJ1FNNiCXs1X7miAUrGnDdqN3C+cg4QIaE9UIjawIkSRlCPxUkelY5ceTiN1+vLz /EJc4LnaWd8jBw8Myx5F0Egi7qD7adkAEQEAAYkBJQQYAQIADwUCUWf7cgIbDAUJ CWYBgAAKCRC/6sgcVQm04gYuCADXra9mbW+vNRWV0toEfKXRzsZ9nL4Vwp3Dys6I Hn8T1wq7DyS9N/8gan6lms8AyvNyp3vC6WZdYPnVk70YCKn1pEztyyL0YzN8WUqZ 8hBoDDKDmOS65DerGj5Fppbg1J5HEQfV1onkMKnT5KKW590Mr0EpTda28N2WUS8Q gwk7cqJ8HC033LEd16mA4FS3aZmRM5QfwkdvKb+hc29+TvrmuLIQ4yJuFQUVyoTt lfq1iY6N3PBOnBSeCSz4Ky3buxiilU9g158r7KKu0FqDMr1bhlRUR9aydSzyKSwd sQS78U81FmwMXXfLJc2TWSEgtqKQJJHbYq2jj6C8qtrs2hSg =tYo4 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] help with relay and bridges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 In what manner are you seeking for help to help others? That Guy g...@gmx.us schrieb: Hello all, been feeling helpless and have decided to at the least get a few relay's and bridges up and running and hopefuly learn enough in the process to help/teach others to do the same. Although for many it is a simple task, for many many more who would like to help it is no easy task and there is lots of uncertanty and questions if one does managage to get a relay up when they are not sure what they are doing. I understand these are elementary issues and that is why as a non-programmer of Security expert I would like to help where and when I can and with a little help from some or even one of you I hope that I can help others while taking some strain off the real minds. Many others like me exist and want to help. I am asking for someone to help me help others. Thank you g...@gmx.us -- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) mQENBFFn+3IBCAD0cqkxl7t+5Kychbzqaf/Wn8z3B5UCQYZk77I1sZj5sZCNhoCw bne6Q2L6SAk/K81C6ih0X1quTiCX65XmyEzjADX61CMMqwot4DZpt0Iahsp3JQbV zGryYn4fLjOO1r3pPg100luD2C37oNfOZmUhvHgtyLMTpCGBD3O8LF7p7/POLraH uYcFx0oXN5+P2xrp0MxJazxgRpKNW+00Q5t3vyzejF9z8zaw/yOrcip/5Bz8kYwh +dTjxudmV9R/bKhyRrtLaIfdM4UyvAIgGAL224kRBT+YfNouKEWRqA55HSTdKFnt sqlbV4bJ9vzZwFKiyG/r2L0eJtAaYuJLHBRrABEBAAG0GWsgPHJpZ2h0Y29hc3Q3 N0BodXNoLmNvbT6JAT4EEwECACgFAlFn+3ICGyMFCQlmAYAGCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkK CwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEL/qyBxVCbTig6sIAKIo00P0XH5a/JrBEkiqU4cE9z2F GAGBs3xKO1gFbkyM6AG/8bqSlKmUqYcuZ64kQFXDidXATtyhJCK8gH/AdRv1jEIh FmZZDK2Y94lkdxiN4MVvjTOM+Lmze+C6hM7UZY+sq2ZeVfkA5kbqgPCMB5XJu0Ff xuUBFoicXDy4eegAQEP7VGep/Uxc3q40SJWeF08TNx5GliA8TNAR8hPs4C41oicF qoXiAyG9JKJlBSS02H6zHQGK/S5ma5xYPjh+GCLiRA+UjuHQa+fBoTPVTR0w63h1 iHZA44SZYffi6NfKEvmGz0WwsvxmyM78B4oKtqNseCtAGc2mEusfVrJkY8e5AQ0E UWf7cgEIAMSh0dg9JY8VDPyRSzJCoghYrjAbbY67i7JdxTtqUvR4CV7jg5Oy1OWi fTAgwMFL/seVihozUYA+0justddC5wDJK6YvULDBh43dCrZyUMLMjtHodtORAcXM uQm67MWYX1E5HH+x0nVIbP1O7GjjWzu7EkGqnqpBr+DI/tfVbfDKL6xjRoE3rO7h Tl9i7sc7QIcRiK3ZP6S2Agr8W5nCQxNXSFSh1chMdxAedkRNEbzyU3wnU+aUw4VU FJ1FNNiCXs1X7miAUrGnDdqN3C+cg4QIaE9UIjawIkSRlCPxUkelY5ceTiN1+vLz /EJc4LnaWd8jBw8Myx5F0Egi7qD7adkAEQEAAYkBJQQYAQIADwUCUWf7cgIbDAUJ CWYBgAAKCRC/6sgcVQm04gYuCADXra9mbW+vNRWV0toEfKXRzsZ9nL4Vwp3Dys6I Hn8T1wq7DyS9N/8gan6lms8AyvNyp3vC6WZdYPnVk70YCKn1pEztyyL0YzN8WUqZ 8hBoDDKDmOS65DerGj5Fppbg1J5HEQfV1onkMKnT5KKW590Mr0EpTda28N2WUS8Q gwk7cqJ8HC033LEd16mA4FS3aZmRM5QfwkdvKb+hc29+TvrmuLIQ4yJuFQUVyoTt lfq1iY6N3PBOnBSeCSz4Ky3buxiilU9g158r7KKu0FqDMr1bhlRUR9aydSzyKSwd sQS78U81FmwMXXfLJc2TWSEgtqKQJJHbYq2jj6C8qtrs2hSg =tYo4 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays - -- We don't bubble you, we don't spoof you ;) Keep your data encrypted! Log you soon, your Admin elri...@elrippoisland.net - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) mQINBFH797MBEAC0Y0NeI7lmDR9szTEcWuHuRe0r/WjSRC0Nr5nXsghuMcxpJ3Dd BOBimi4hdMMK4iqPVMwNw6GpKYR3A9LHHjbYRXHUKrJmB+BaJVyzJXN5H6XvxTTb UfX+DaXAGJW/G+3cBB3qm/QaU8QGkBKfXq0DLTaTGPkGKxEAldj/8onGZhawdJs+ B92JrW+S2HDh15pIuXzSqe7eCcIOdvvwfWe0fJi2AraA7LYGpxP6GcC/b9JJpbq5 Y6DfE2Aun9ZK3iHqURyrms0Whbv1CgmUahL2MVYCsTsXwe0GwlAxxKvjXAiXuo+R 9wO5wsXvVVSVNqsk9Yqi+wYzdPKndTU0GyxSApQHroF+cxaZ8Lk0xloj18+LdCSs e5IiTSXH0MMsDdWWdHlrgk+bgDG+0Gu3ne4vMwGdKO7AhYgQW/ueMy4RnkG/nsV9 jry5BO4gGAI1Ij8KvqUzEnvJFGE3ptJogU+zazWWDUWmL3ecKb3aDRlJFnZ3kJ5h q8GolZVjpk99V+4B5WVRPXdej/p5J19tXycK/jdNmr4oC8NyUhIpe8xHELnfoB4z +rxiTx+KMnW0rY8EQg8O2ixEYt5my90IwQkxcxIxextVrqjJjYn8extc2/v8yGzI KmTEJxdADB5v/Jx4HiLHNDSfBUb8gfONCkNSTYvTcSwTjWzHOkXeE/9ZbQARAQAB tD5lbHJpcHBvIChrZWVwIHlvdXIgZGF0YSBlbmNyeXB0ZWQpIDxlbHJpcHBvQGVs cmlwcG9pc2xhbmQubmV0PokCOAQTAQIAIgUCUfv3swIbLwYLCQgHAwIGFQgCCQoL BBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQhN8ffmrgNkT8+BAAoAXBqu4/O2Cs5FSWWZpzgScNEgq7 uHhOKeYmRfgKlOUPoYlPB1DBqdOAXSKb9OvsmyOvpoGnqijB7aAJBoyQYW/OCQgd U8L4eTCf4yRZnfFLdgskcPfN1p0Rs/yinGEooBJFtYa7mT6J0UTW2JjCLZK2AFCW oF+KBu5JICXGBXigb2ZbX1jWjxP5H1RidQw6HF5z4z34SjLWAOOeZ8B/Xfz6Fs0s IAuLu2O4HE4DI8Qu196LhSVHHgr3uMTkvN1t5nKwyjrRQztwXXk9qIomII3ydNYb BYAGdWNNMfLb1kmDwC5wQHAFvSP1aiMF3aKAY+gl2wXSGO6JqM0SteJS3dytIljI kzu0atc9HuGs/HDQgdmpAS4WU2YefEr/WieltSiAKlwuC+3wg+CONJ6TE1vgNDU/ axerttb0jq7UQb/nAp05bsrB7XH1Vs+1ON9lUPEfWRmwQcrVK5JUrUWa/4tA/UeM XvFcPFtFluGTlLewgJIqcvjPXFwpbDZprXJsMkwew/A6B6n3+0sbgf7p3QSGkVbi dwQAymTbHdYqLnbcnKZhjto3Wjw1J5QB2wuiRYlpjV3i7AWTGlqoSTOWCCV+HamQ qeFYNYAWNFx3+J/oi7xDi8t9bHVNA205equ+y2sj3G5uGJ6LSHQ8AXp9uOipUUvU 1MJN0yLXr9PIwvi5Ag0EUfv3swEQAL0+MnxHGrTjSYdfdua4SBpmytDONM1EngeY s+WyaC/760MughKbaysI/nK2LB1vnwEY7f3NM4fxBx8u2T7VBm6Ez6Fs23Bb8Rkz f97bPSdxCmg64GPHfLA9uwTIXcYS+MpI86WOf6eWY0rRpf7Y9Nl7YoUNvzOyUPqc ggdcnHce8zYv7A/WS8flZDm8tVFPsHrQDEwNMws7ZhiNnHkeZeRJrvCuB7oEVich O/ROYoA5o6NozWYQbjxe1f6Yur4Q10qgVcxVnyLFJSbg6vZSzL7KYh3Z5iBOzPHt 7cwEDrW8W4Kl2Qj8rhJ4Wxs94CAtua7IXK44sVZWQbyHcOXRikgGMZKkEZzVCQa5
Re: [tor-relays] What if my favorite online store website blacklists all Tor Relay IP addresses?
I'm in the same boat: for example yelp.com and TDBank North are blocking us. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM, David Carlson david.carlson@gmail.comwrote: It seems that at least two 'normal' online store websites that I visit from time to time have apparently decided to block my IP address which I am also using for a non-exit Tor relay. I have had extended discussions with one of them and they considered unblocking my IP address to be a risk greater than the lost income (US $160/year revenue) was worth. They suggested switching to a different IP address, which was like pulling hens' teeth from my ISP. To do that, I had to have a technician visit my house and install a new modem because they do not have a person who understands tech talk available for ordinary users, and I couldn't get sufficiently elevated in their support hierarchy. The supposedly dynamic IP address that I get from them hardly ever changes, probably because I am buying U-verse television service from them. Now, after a couple of months, the new IP address is also blocked. My question is this. What if it becomes common practice for commercial entities such as online stores to block all IP addresses that they find on lists of Tor relays such as https://www.dan.me.uk/tornodes or the official Tor metrics data? That list is updated every half hour, includes all nodes, and is not limited to exit nodes. It currently lists 4438 nodes. That is a manageable size for a blacklist, but it could represent tens or hundreds of thousands of clients. Wouldn't this eventually either cripple the Tor network or generally discourage Tor clients that can no longer buy products online from store XYZ through the Tor network? David C ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] What if my favorite online store websiteblacklists all Tor Relay IP addresses?
Likely someone was doing credit card fraud/hacking type stuff and choosing Tor as the way to connect for it. That stuff is a pain in the ass for online stores when it happens. Not surprised that outfits handling online payments don't want Tor connections, and I can't blame them tbh. It shouldn't be hard to find a workaround if your purchases are infrequent and anonymity in that particular connection isn't an issue (cell phones have internet these days, 'net from a friend's house, whatever). Not sure where you live but, I read that these days, USA is photographing the fronts of all postal mail. So, mailed merchandise isn't exactly a win on privacy anyway. On Sunday 25/08/2013 at 4:23 pm, David Carlson wrote: On 8/25/2013 2:41 PM, Dave Lahr wrote: I'm in the same boat: for example yelp.com and TDBank North are blocking us. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM, David Carlson david.carlson@gmail.com wrote: It seems that at least two 'normal' online store websites that I visit from time to time have apparently decided to block my IP address which I am also using for a non-exit Tor relay. I have had extended discussions with one of them and they considered unblocking my IP address to be a risk greater than the lost income (US $160/year revenue) was worth. They suggested switching to a different IP address, which was like pulling hens' teeth from my ISP. To do that, I had to have a technician visit my house and install a new modem because they do not have a person who understands tech talk available for ordinary users, and I couldn't get sufficiently elevated in their support hierarchy. The supposedly dynamic IP address that I get from them hardly ever changes, probably because I am buying U-verse television service from them. Now, after a couple of months, the new IP address is also blocked. My question is this. What if it becomes common practice for commercial entities such as online stores to block all IP addresses that they find on lists of Tor relays such as https://www.dan.me.uk/tornodes or the official Tor metrics data? That list is updated every half hour, includes all nodes, and is not limited to exit nodes. It currently lists 4438 nodes. That is a manageable size for a blacklist, but it could represent tens or hundreds of thousands of clients. Wouldn't this eventually either cripple the Tor network or generally discourage Tor clients that can no longer buy products online from store XYZ through the Tor network? David C ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays In the short term, it is possible to to circumvent these practices by using one or more of several different methods, but informing the online store that they are shooting themselves in the foot is not one of them. After all, they are experts and we are just ignoramuses, even if we know what an IP address is. Also, client tactics like going to a public hotspot is either not an option for someone who wants the Tor anonymity, or problematic at best if all or nearly all Tor node IP addresses are blocked at the vendor end. That is why I asked the general question. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
