[tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements

2014-01-26 Thread Sebastian Urbach


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[tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Sebastian Urbach

Dear list members,

Sorry for the completely empty mail a few minutes ago. What can i say, it's 
sunday and i had way less sleep than i should.


But here the good news. The live scoreboard was modified. There is now a 
new column which shows the number of completed runs per IP and also at the 
bottom a value which displays the total sum of systems who completed at 
least 1 run.


The board:

http://128.174.241.211:443/relay_scoreboard

Thanks for your attention.

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread tor-admin
On Sunday 26 January 2014 12:48:34 Sebastian Urbach wrote:
 But here the good news. The live scoreboard was modified. There is now a
 new column which shows the number of completed runs per IP and also at the
 bottom a value which displays the total sum of systems who completed at

I am wondering why only 68 out of 283 completed the traceroute. Can someone 
explain please?

regards

torland

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread renke brausse
 
 I am wondering why only 68 out of 283 completed the traceroute. Can someone 
 explain please?
 
probably because the estimated time is between 4 and 96 days:
https://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
my (low-bandwith) relay is trace-routing since 4 days and completed a
mere 15 % of all checks :)

Renke



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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Sebastian Urbach

Hi Renke,

Do you care to elaborate  ? If you need assistance we can talk via private 
mail as well ...


Bandwidth consumption is very low as you possible read on the project site. 
Do you run the test with scamper and or did you turn down the scanning speed ?


The question remains why did many relay ops canceled the test before 
completion. As the scoreboard shows most of them would have completed the 
test in the estimated lowest time frame (around 4 days). The estimated max. 
time is about 24 days not 96 if you choose to run with traceroute and the 
default values instead of scamper.


My best guess is that even 4 days was too long.  After the test was started 
they wondered how long it would take and checked back with the faq, then 
decided to quit. Call it a hunch ;-)


My system, as an example, took about 2 days and 23 hours to complete the 
run. I use scamper with the default settings. You can also turn up the pps 
value and finish even faster.


How long will this take?:

http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong

How much bandwidth, disk space, RAM, and CPU will this consume?:

http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howmanyresources

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Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Sincerely yours

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I am wondering why only 68 out of 283 completed the traceroute. Can someone 
explain please?

probably because the estimated time is between 4 and 96 days:

https://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
my (low-bandwith) relay is trace-routing since 4 days and completed a
mere 15 % of all checks :)

Renke




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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread mick
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:04:01 +0100
Sebastian Urbach sebast...@urbach.org allegedly wrote:
 
 My system, as an example, took about 2 days and 23 hours to complete
 the run. I use scamper with the default settings. You can also turn
 up the pps value and finish even faster.
 
 How long will this take?:
 
 http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
 
 How much bandwidth, disk space, RAM, and CPU will this consume?:
 
 http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howmanyresources
 

Fo info, my relay (512MB RAM, 1 core VPS) finshed the scamper run
(with default settings) in just over 3.5 days. I've just kicked off a
second run.

Mick
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 http://baldric.net

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Sebastian Urbach

Hi Mick,

Thank you for running multiple turns and your time frame info as well :-)
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:04:01 +0100
Sebastian Urbach sebast...@urbach.org allegedly wrote:

My system, as an example, took about 2 days and 23 hours to complete
the run. I use scamper with the default settings. You can also turn
up the pps value and finish even faster.
How long will this take?:
http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howlong
How much bandwidth, disk space, RAM, and CPU will this consume?:
http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~das17/tor-traceroute_v1.html#q-howmanyresources


Fo info, my relay (512MB RAM, 1 core VPS) finshed the scamper run
(with default settings) in just over 3.5 days. I've just kicked off a
second run.

Mick
-

Mick Morgan
gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B  72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312
http://baldric.net

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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread renke brausse
Sebastian,

 Do you care to elaborate  ? If you need assistance we can talk via
 private mail as well ...
I use the script intentionally with scamper restricted to 200 pps - not
sure why (and what) I should elaborate ;)

The needed time (even for the default of scamper with 1000 pps) is imho
a rather good explanation to torland's question why only 68 of nearly
300 participating IPs finished the whole measurement at least once.

Renke



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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread tor-admin
On Sunday 26 January 2014 16:27:12 renke brausse wrote:
 The needed time (even for the default of scamper with 1000 pps) is imho
 a rather good explanation to torland's question why only 68 of nearly
 300 participating IPs finished the whole measurement at least once.
I launched the script from a high capacity tor relay host as well as from a 
VPS. I did not see a big difference in time. On both it finished within around 
4 days. 

I would assume that someone who reads the documents/FAQ about the script, 
checks it and starts it, will not kill it before it finishes. So I am 
wondering if there is another reason for the high number of unfinished script 
cycles.

Regards,

torland
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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements

2014-01-26 Thread kattam...@sbcglobal.net

On 1/26/2014 6:28 AM, Sebastian Urbach wrote:


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I agree whole heartily

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Re: [tor-relays] Here,s my problem.

2014-01-26 Thread kattam...@sbcglobal.net

On 1/26/2014 5:33 PM, an.to_n...@riseup.net wrote:

Hello Kattamann!

Great to have you with us!

When you want to configure your machine as Tor entry for censored users, you
need to set up Vidalia as Bridge.

Download the Vidalia bridge bundle from
https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en

More information you find in the manual or on
https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges

Somewhat more advanced is an obfuscated bridge
https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy.html
what works against the censorship of normal bridges.

I recommend to read a little bit about Tor to get a better understanding.

When you want to run the bridge on your main PC, it shall be always on. But be
careful: As bridge operator you run a real server, with all risks of a machine,
which is always on the net and listening for incoming connections. You should
inform yourself at least about firewalls and the port-forwarding on your
modem/router, so that external users can reach you bridge.

After getting some experience with the bridge it might be better to switch to a
small singleboard computer like the RaspberryPi, OLinuXino or Wandboard. They
cost only little, consume less electricity like a desktop and do not contain you
personal data. You can connect them directly to the modem.

Best Regards

Anton


Thank you Anton

  Thanks again for your quick response. I am using a Siemens speed 
stream dsl router my friend recommend it for its built in security. I 
have read some of the pages you sent ,but will reread them and pull out 
my manual my friend sent me on my dsl router glad I kept it. Thanks 
again for the suggestion have a lot of studying to do!

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Re: [tor-relays] Here,s my problem.

2014-01-26 Thread I
Do you have it set to be a relay?
Then yes and good for you.


 
 To anyone whom might give a suggestion or answer.
 
 
Just set up tor browser and relay package wanted to volunteer my
 computer and connection to those in parts of the world who don't have as
 much freedom of accesses as us.Question if I just set my computer to not
 go into sleep mode is that all that is needed to let people use my
 connection when I am not using it.Specs home built as-rock 787 pro3 8gig
 of ram dsl connect low speed att offers.


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Re: [tor-relays] Scoreboard enhancements / Trying Trusted Tor Traceroutes

2014-01-26 Thread Anupam Das
So I went through the data collected from the relays I

Ips used  #relays
1 88
13 1
149 1
2 2
28 1
3 1
4 1
5 2



On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, tor-admin tor-ad...@torland.me wrote:

 On Sunday 26 January 2014 16:27:12 renke brausse wrote:
  The needed time (even for the default of scamper with 1000 pps) is imho
  a rather good explanation to torland's question why only 68 of nearly
  300 participating IPs finished the whole measurement at least once.
 I launched the script from a high capacity tor relay host as well as from a
 VPS. I did not see a big difference in time. On both it finished within
 around
 4 days.

 I would assume that someone who reads the documents/FAQ about the script,
 checks it and starts it, will not kill it before it finishes. So I am
 wondering if there is another reason for the high number of unfinished
 script
 cycles.

 Regards,

 torland
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