Re: [tor-relays] DigitalOcean pricing (Re: tomhek - the (new) biggest guard relay operator)

2016-09-12 Thread Dave Warren
Nope. You get root, so with a bit of creativity you could probably do
whatever you want, but I don't think DO officially supports installing
your own OS (and they might make assumptions about your OS version that
cause you issues later)

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, at 21:20, Petrusko wrote:
> No way to "add" an image .iso with the web interface ?
> 
> > D.O. has images for Debian (8.5, 7.11), Ubuntu (16.04.1, 14.04.5,
> > 12.04.5), but no Gentoo.

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[tor-relays] Tor path selection upon failure

2016-09-12 Thread Liu, Zhuotao
Hi Folks,

There have been some technical reports about how to deal with the problem when 
a botnet uses Tor as its primary C&C channel. In this case, the CPU of some 
relays is exhausted, causing circuit creation failure.

I am wondering currently how a client reacts when its circuit creation fails? 
Does the client simply resend another create cell or it will re-select new path 
instead?

Thanks
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Re: [tor-relays] DigitalOcean pricing (Re: tomhek - the (new) biggest guard relay operator)

2016-09-12 Thread Petrusko
No way to "add" an image .iso with the web interface ?

> D.O. has images for Debian (8.5, 7.11), Ubuntu (16.04.1, 14.04.5,
> 12.04.5), but no Gentoo.

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Re: [tor-relays] Moving multiple instances to another VPS

2016-09-12 Thread teor

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 22:41, pa011  wrote:
> 
> Thank you both.
> 
> @Tim: You would kind of argue, that the advantage of carrying the old keys to 
> the new machine is not that important (to keep old level of traffic from 
> start) and that it might be even better to start from scratch?

There is some value in maintaining the same level of traffic.
But there will be an adjustment to your consensus weight anyway.
In fact, if your new provider is too different (particularly less connected or 
slower), keeping your old weight would be a disadvantage for the network.

There is also significant value to making a fresh start: new SSH keys and new 
relay keys mean that even if your old provider has a backup, or your old relay 
was compromised, or you have a backup of your keys, it's not much use to 
anyone. Particularly on an exit, your traffic will recover fairly quickly.

It's completely up to you - I just wanted to describe the security advantages 
of a fresh start, versus the traffic advantages (or disadvantages) of keeping 
the same relay keys.

Tim

> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> Am 12.09.2016 um 03:53 schrieb teor:
> 
>> In Debian, using tor-instance-create and systemd, there is a separate 
>> directory, /var/lib/tor-instances
>> You'll need to copy both /var/lib/tor and /var/lib/tor-instances to preserve 
>> the keys, and /etc/tor to preserve the configs.
>> 
>> That said, please consider rotating keys when you move (that is, only 
>> copying /etc/tor).
>> 
>> If your old relay or those keys were ever compromised, you'll have a fresh 
>> start.
>> And even if it wasn't, some of your network reputation will be reset when 
>> you move IP addresses anyway.
>> 
>> Tim
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Re: [tor-relays] DigitalOcean pricing (Re: tomhek - the (new) biggest guard relay operator)

2016-09-12 Thread Dave Warren
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016, at 06:53, Ralph Seichter wrote:
> On 11.09.2016 14:30, Markus Koch wrote:
> 
> > So around 90 terabyte a month for $5. Seems fair :)
> 
> Yeah, it does, doesn't it... ;-) Leaves me with figuring out what Linux
> distro to use, as D.O. does not offer Gentoo. Debian or Ubuntu? Exclusive
> Tor use is what I have in mind. Your thoughts?

D.O. has images for Debian (8.5, 7.11), Ubuntu (16.04.1, 14.04.5,
12.04.5), but no Gentoo.


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Re: [tor-relays] Moving multiple instances to another VPS

2016-09-12 Thread pa011
Thank you both.

@Tim: You would kind of argue, that the advantage of carrying the old keys to 
the new machine is not that important (to keep old level of traffic from start) 
and that it might be even better to start from scratch?

Paul


Am 12.09.2016 um 03:53 schrieb teor:

> In Debian, using tor-instance-create and systemd, there is a separate 
> directory, /var/lib/tor-instances
> You'll need to copy both /var/lib/tor and /var/lib/tor-instances to preserve 
> the keys, and /etc/tor to preserve the configs.
> 
> That said, please consider rotating keys when you move (that is, only copying 
> /etc/tor).
> 
> If your old relay or those keys were ever compromised, you'll have a fresh 
> start.
> And even if it wasn't, some of your network reputation will be reset when you 
> move IP addresses anyway.
> 
> Tim
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