[tor-relays] Minimum requirements for becoming a guard

[Rana]

What are the absolute minimum requirements for becoming a guard? 
 
[I am not asking about being trustworthy which I am obviously not, only
about bandwidth etc. :)]
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[tor-relays] FW: Merry Christmas from President Obama and the First Lady

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And they called on us to support the Americans who serve us all year round: our men and women in uniform.

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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[Dakota Hourie]

Neither actually, just bad phrasing. I already run 3 relays under the
outfall moniker, just setting up a new relay since I want to play around
with scaleway. Though this will be the last node I will put on Online... If
I add anymore I will try to aim for each one to be on a different network.

And the tshirt is pretty awesome, currently rocking the green one. I
figured it's a seasonal colour so why not?

Merry Christmas!

-- Dakota Hourie --

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 3:47 PM, I  wrote:

>
> > I think he meant four VPSs so four IPs.
>
> > Robert
>
> Or not.
> My head was reeling from getting a tshirt.
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[I]

> I think he meant four VPSs so four IPs.

> Robert

Or not.
My head was reeling from getting a tshirt.

Rob


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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[I]

> 
> For 4 relays, you'll want at least 2 IP addresses, since we try to
> not make it easy for somebody to spin up too many relays on too few
> IP addresses.

Merry Chrismas Roger,

I think he meant four VPSs so four IPs.

Tor never sleeps?

Robert





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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[Roger Dingledine]

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 02:02:55PM -0700, Dakota Hourie wrote:
> Thanks nesenu, just what I was looking for. And never used ansible before,
> but that looks like it could make managing my soon to be 4 relay servers a
> breeze, will definitely check it out.

Thanks for wanting to run relays!

For 4 relays, you'll want at least 2 IP addresses, since we try to
not make it easy for somebody to spin up too many relays on too few
IP addresses.

Now you know, so it won't come as a surprise later. :)

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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[Dakota Hourie]

Thanks nesenu, just what I was looking for. And never used ansible before,
but that looks like it could make managing my soon to be 4 relay servers a
breeze, will definitely check it out.

-- Dakota Hourie --

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 1:54 PM, nusenu  wrote:

> > Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to be able to run
> > multiple instances of tor for a multi core cpu.
> >
> > Tor version is 2.9.8 on Ubuntu 16.04.
>
> The tor package from deb.torproject.org ships a little script that helps
> you with that:
>
> tor-instance-create
>
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/debian/tor.git/tree/debian/
> tor-instance-create.8.txt
>
> torrc files will be located under
> /etc/tor/instances//torrc
>
> and you can use the usual systemctl commands to manage them
> systemctl start tor@
>
>
>
> Or if you are planing to run more than one server or want to use the
> relatively new OfflineMaster key feature without all the manual steps
> you can take a look at ansible to manage your tor instances.
>
> https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor
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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[nusenu]

> Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to be able to run
> multiple instances of tor for a multi core cpu.
> 
> Tor version is 2.9.8 on Ubuntu 16.04.

The tor package from deb.torproject.org ships a little script that helps
you with that:

tor-instance-create

https://gitweb.torproject.org/debian/tor.git/tree/debian/tor-instance-create.8.txt

torrc files will be located under
/etc/tor/instances//torrc

and you can use the usual systemctl commands to manage them
systemctl start tor@



Or if you are planing to run more than one server or want to use the
relatively new OfflineMaster key feature without all the manual steps
you can take a look at ansible to manage your tor instances.

https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor



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Re: [tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[Patrick DERWAEL]

Hi,

Why not installing kvm ans running 2 or more vm's?

P.


Le 24 déc. 2016 21:32, "Dakota Hourie"  a écrit :

Hi Everyone,

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to be able to run
multiple instances of tor for a multi core cpu.

Tor version is 2.9.8 on Ubuntu 16.04.

Thanks

-- Dakota Hourie --

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[tor-relays] Multiple Tor Instances

[Dakota Hourie]

Hi Everyone,

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to be able to run
multiple instances of tor for a multi core cpu.

Tor version is 2.9.8 on Ubuntu 16.04.

Thanks

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[tor-relays] iptables stats

[Monkey Pet]

This machine is dedicated as a tor-relay. Is it normal that the INPUT bytes
count is much greater than the OUTPUT bytes or did I configure the iptables
wrong?

 iptables -L -v
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination
6   328 ACCEPT all  --  lo any anywhere
anywhere
   38  2557 ACCEPT icmp --  anyany anywhere
anywhere
 1135 68123 ACCEPT tcp  --  anyany anywhere
anywhere tcp dpt:http
27432 6416K ACCEPT tcp  --  anyany anywhere
anywhere tcp dpt:https
 6274  479K ACCEPT tcp  --  anyany anywhere
anywhere tcp dpt:ssh
93821  129M ACCEPT all  --  anyany anywhere
anywhere ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED
 1050 54292 DROP   all  --  anyany anywhere
anywhere

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 70579 packets, 36M bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination
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Re: [tor-relays] atx.name relays: MyFamily updated

[nusenu]

thanks for fixing it!

+++
| nickname   | eMyFamilyCount |
+++
| PrincipalCinch | 3. |
| SonataDusk | 3. |
| SunsetShimmer  | 3. |
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Re: [tor-relays] "[warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort" under BSD

[nusenu]

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/20711



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Re: [tor-relays] "[warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort" under BSD

[Ivan Markin]

pa011:
> I am running (FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2)   Tor 0.2.8.11
> getting following warnings while Self-testing indicates that DirPort is 
> reachable from the outside?
> 
> Can these warnings be ignored, while Tor is running properly afterwards ?

> Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a 
> DirPort.

This is probably a bug. Try to switch log level to "info" - tor should
provide a more detailed backtrace saying something like "Address came
from...". Please don't forget to sanitize log from irrelevant private data.

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[tor-relays] "[warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort" under BSD

[pa011]

I am running (FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2)   Tor 0.2.8.11
getting following warnings while Self-testing indicates that DirPort is 
reachable from the outside?

Can these warnings be ignored, while Tor is running properly afterwards ?

Merry Christmas!

Paul 

Dec 24 13:20:57.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 80%: Connecting to the Tor network
Dec 24 13:20:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
Dec 24 13:20:58.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 85%: Finishing handshake with first 
hop
Dec 24 13:20:58.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 90%: Establishing a Tor circuit
Dec 24 13:20:58.000 [notice] Tor has successfully opened a circuit. Looks like 
client functionality is working.
Dec 24 13:20:58.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100%: Done
Dec 24 13:20:58.000 [notice] Now checking whether ORPort x.x.x.x:9001 and 
DirPort x.x.x.x:9030 are reachable... (this may take up to 20 minutes -$
Dec 24 13:20:59.000 [notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is reachable 
from the outside. Excellent.
Dec 24 13:20:59.000 [notice] Self-testing indicates your DirPort is reachable 
from the outside. Excellent. Publishing server descriptor.
Dec 24 13:21:00.000 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done.
Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
Dec 24 13:21:57.000 [warn] Cannot make an outgoing connection without a DirPort.
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Re: [tor-relays] Reset torrc file

[Petrusko]

Hey!

I've updated an "old" Debian8 server not plugged since a long time ago,
with Tor from Debian repo,
and when updating it with a "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade",
when Tor package has came, it asked :

Paramétrage de tor (0.2.9.8-2~d80.jessie+1) ...

Fichier de configuration « /etc/tor/torrc »
 ==> Modifié (par vous ou par un script) depuis l'installation.
 ==> Le distributeur du paquet a fourni une version mise à jour.
   Que voulez-vous faire ? Vos options sont les suivantes :
Y ou I  : installer la version du responsable du paquet
N ou O  : garder votre version actuellement installée
  D : afficher les différences entre les versions
  Z : suspendre ce processus pour examiner la situation
 L'action par défaut garde votre version actuelle.
*** torrc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [défaut=N] ?


Sry for french, so quickly, it asked if I want to use the new torrc file
from repo, yes or no, and No was the default choice (what I've done).
Tor has automatically restarted without any problem.

So in your case, it can be Webmin automatically answered "Yes" to this
previous question, and the update has removed your torrc file, and the
new has been set up...?
(Ive not used Webmin since many years, I don't know if it can be
possible to upgrade without any questions...?)



Le 21/12/2016 à 23:30, Sec INT a écrit :
> Hi 
>
> Im using webmin but have done for a number of upgrades and this hasnt 
> happened before but I agree seems more likely to be a package manager issue - 
> just very odd that all torrc were renamed and new default torrc were 
> generated...
>
> Cheers
> Mark B
> Snaptor.co.uk (non commercial)
>
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Re: [tor-relays] What's a "useful" relay?

[Andreas Krey]

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 10:11:51 +, Rana wrote:
> @balbea16
...
> I am even more confused than you. My 1300 connections relay has a consensus 
> weight 
> 
>   of 38 (thirty eight). That???s less than 1% of your weight, despite having 
> 26% the number of connections you have.

Number of connections is a very indirect metric. Especially any
somewhat-used relay will have connections open to most of the bigger
relays, since the paths for which this relay is selected come from and
go to arbitrary relays, weighted by their bandwidth. So if you have
few connection, this is an indication that your relay doesn't get used
much. (My numbers are around 4000 and 2000 for the two of mine, with a
factor of eight between them in the carried traffic).

> Besides, I could never understand why people measure the ???size??? of the 
> relay by the number of connections.

I never noticed anybody did. The number of connections only come into play when

- your VPS has a connection limit that is too low,

- you're connected to the internet via a NAT/state-keeping router/modem/thingy
  that can't handle as many simultaneous connections.

> My guess is you can have a large number of dead connections.

Actually no. They time out. And probably actually yes, as many
connections may not be in use at a specific given point.

Andreas

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800
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[tor-relays] 2bithacker.net relays: please specify MyFamily in torrc

[nusenu]

Hi Chip Marshall,

thanks for adding so many new FreeBSD relays!

Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc
configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator.

Since you know ansible already you might also use it to do that
automatically.

If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know.

thanks,
nusenu

https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor




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> 2016-12-23
> ---
> Up|Ext|JoinTime| IP  | AS  | CC | ORp  | Dirp | OS
> | Version  | Nickname | eFamlen
> ---
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:38 | 82.196.8.232| None| nl | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitnlams02 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:32 | 46.101.21.201   | Digital Ocean,  | gb | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitgblon01 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:38 | 139.59.0.37 | Digital Ocean,  | in | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitinblr01 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:35 | 162.243.115.59  | Digital Ocean,  | us | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitusnyc02 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:35 | 45.55.50.151| Digital Ocean,  | us | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitusnyc03 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:35 | 107.170.205.8   | Digital Ocean,  | us | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitussfo01 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:34 | 159.203.33.54   | Digital Ocean,  | ca | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitcator01 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:37 | 138.68.0.4  | Digital Ocean,  | us | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitussfo02 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:34 | 188.166.241.75  | Digital Ocean,  | sg | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitsgsin01 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:33 | 46.101.166.19   | Digital Ocean,  | de | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitdefra01 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:33 | 188.166.41.46   | Digital Ocean,  | nl | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitnlams03 | 1
> 1 | 0 | 02:32:32 | 198.199.72.150  | ServerStack, In | us | 9090 | 9030 | 
> FreeBSD | 0.2.8.11 | 2bitusnyc01 | 1
> Fingerprints:
> C3F631DE3EC41854168600AE1AE5728A2EA55CBC,0386ADA6F685FABB04E529C5ED49C3DCFB92A73B,2685BFE15151FEB867E1CD27DCACFB8DA39002E5,D93DDF11BD3F58403A2A94EA62C7FA3D415E9FDF,A144C89AEAD0F9CD38A90A1F2FDF9B21592E6799,F45A1231CD1EC9096FD65142E50B940B3E2B384B,71A61E23D16187ACED135530B606FE052CFF763C,6CF9DFBA9B9304706781F10EB4787DB1BFBFF048,E3BC5F5196C140903D3D46029C2340C79C9BF17C,E7EEA1B771C1DF30684DC200338EA7F6EBAF3858,04FBD9ADF8947F925C4C5D3A57A9B0215251EE7A,E4AE28405E6D1D14E0681491A27FFDDC06643B77
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[tor-relays] FW: What's a "useful" relay?

[Rana]

@balbea16
 
Correction: your relay has 1400 connections, mine has 1300. Therefore my relay 
has less than 1% of the weight of your relay while having ALMOST THE SAME 
number of connections. Go figure…
 
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of 
Rana
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:12 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] What's a "useful" relay?
 
@balbea16
 
>I am actually a little bit confused now. I am one of (as Rana knows) those Pi 
>3 based OR operators with daily changing IP address. My consensus weight is 
>about 5,000, with a max. of 1,400 connections.  I would like to recomment, 
>that the TOR org should publish minimum requirements to run a relay. And, if 
>my kind of relays would bring disadvantage to the network, I would shut it 
>off. So far, I think, that small and large relays in combination are good for 
>anonymity. 
 
I am even more confused than you. My 1300 connections relay has a consensus 
weight 

  of 38 (thirty eight). That’s less than 1% of your weight, despite having 26% 
the number of connections you have. Besides, I could never understand why 
people measure the “size” of the relay by the number of connections. My guess 
is you can have a large number of dead connections.
 
This is just another example of the lack of clear metrics and feedback to relay 
operators on the quality of their relay, including how well the relay is doing 
in terms of its usefulness to Tor, and especially of (direct or easily derived) 
actionable recommendations on how to improve its quality, including abandonment 
if it is harmful to Tor in its current form.
 
Rana
 
PS I guess this may not be that simple as possibly some relays are getting 
bashed because they are suspected of being rogue. Still, a mechanism of quality 
feedback is needed for the (hopefully the majority) of the relays that are run 
by bona fide volunteers.
 
 
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Re: [tor-relays] What's a "useful" relay?

[Rana]

@balbea16
 
>I am actually a little bit confused now. I am one of (as Rana knows) those Pi 
>3 based OR operators with daily changing IP address. My consensus weight is 
>about 5,000, with a max. of 1,400 connections.  I would like to recomment, 
>that the TOR org should publish minimum requirements to run a relay. And, if 
>my kind of relays would bring disadvantage to the network, I would shut it 
>off. So far, I think, that small and large relays in combination are good for 
>anonymity. 
 
I am even more confused than you. My 1300 connections relay has a consensus 
weight 

  of 38 (thirty eight). That’s less than 1% of your weight, despite having 26% 
the number of connections you have. Besides, I could never understand why 
people measure the “size” of the relay by the number of connections. My guess 
is you can have a large number of dead connections.
 
This is just another example of the lack of clear metrics and feedback to relay 
operators on the quality of their relay, including how well the relay is doing 
in terms of its usefulness to Tor, and especially of (direct or easily derived) 
actionable recommendations on how to improve its quality, including abandonment 
if it is harmful to Tor in its current form.
 
Rana
 
PS I guess this may not be that simple as possibly some relays are getting 
bashed because they are suspected of being rogue. Still, a mechanism of quality 
feedback is needed for the (hopefully the majority) of the relays that are run 
by bona fide volunteers.
 
 
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