Re: [tor-relays] Email Blocked by ISP
Yea, the big corporates do not want anyone to run their own email servers now, and I may end up giving up, as no longer really need a VPS as I am retired. Email servers that are not a run through big corporation are by definition suspicious. At one time I ran Tor with a separated IP address on the server in and out, but blacklisting sites soon worked that one out.I have VPS for Tor are elsewhere not on my personal VPS. Email servers are tedious to set up SPF, dkim ,dmarc, certificates and fail2ban. Even with that all in place, and on no blacklist whatsoever (as listed on MXtoolbox) both Google's email systems and Microsoft can suddenly, you to their email accounts. They never give a reason. I had this twice now. It is a real chore finding their hidden web pages and forms to deal with the issue to get you off their internal backlists, and it takes a few days. Because my email server has so little traffic, is it impossible to earn "reputational" good marks with them. So one glitch probably triggers their algorithm to block. Gerry -Original Message- From: tor-relays On Behalf Of Neel Chauhan Sent: 17 May 2019 01:43 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Email Blocked by ISP Looking at your email address, you have an ISP assigned email. Unless you work for Spectrum, you shouldn't use an ISP email account. I'd advise you either: * Sign up for a third-party email service like Gmail, Outlook, ProtonMail, or Tutanota * If you can maintain one, run your own email server (I do this myself but many don't recommend it as email servers are complex) Assuming you have a middle relay, I don't think the relay caused the email problems. I believe someone hacked your email, whether through a hacker attacking the Spectrum email server or a virus/malware gaining access to your email via a browser exploit. Check for this first. -Neel On 2019-05-16 13:31, K. Besig wrote: > I've run a home relay on and off for several years and recently, for > the first time, had my email blocked by the ISP rendering it > impossible to login into my 3rd party mail sever. > > When I contacted support I was informed my email password had been > reset due to activity that resembled e-bombing/mass mailing. Only > after submitting to a system scan while the rep waited on the > phone,was I able to reset my password. > > I moved several months ago and went from a TWC legacy account to a > Spectrum account. > > Wondering if anything other than lowering my tor bandwidth would keep > them off my back... > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Email Blocked by ISP
Looking at your email address, you have an ISP assigned email. Unless you work for Spectrum, you shouldn't use an ISP email account. I'd advise you either: * Sign up for a third-party email service like Gmail, Outlook, ProtonMail, or Tutanota * If you can maintain one, run your own email server (I do this myself but many don't recommend it as email servers are complex) Assuming you have a middle relay, I don't think the relay caused the email problems. I believe someone hacked your email, whether through a hacker attacking the Spectrum email server or a virus/malware gaining access to your email via a browser exploit. Check for this first. -Neel On 2019-05-16 13:31, K. Besig wrote: I've run a home relay on and off for several years and recently, for the first time, had my email blocked by the ISP rendering it impossible to login into my 3rd party mail sever. When I contacted support I was informed my email password had been reset due to activity that resembled e-bombing/mass mailing. Only after submitting to a system scan while the rep waited on the phone,was I able to reset my password. I moved several months ago and went from a TWC legacy account to a Spectrum account. Wondering if anything other than lowering my tor bandwidth would keep them off my back... ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Email Blocked by ISP
K. Besig: > I've run a home relay on and off for several years and recently, for the > first time, had my email blocked by the ISP rendering it impossible to login > into my 3rd party mail sever. > > When I contacted support I was informed my email password had been reset due > to activity that resembled e-bombing/mass mailing. Only after submitting to a > system scan while the rep waited on the phone,was I able to reset my password. > > I moved several months ago and went from a TWC legacy account to a Spectrum > account. > > Wondering if anything other than lowering my tor bandwidth would keep them > off my back... > Most people strongly recommend NOT running a public relay on a residential connection. It's safer to run a bridge. All public relay IP addresses, not just exit addresses, are being blocked by some providers and online services. They are with the "clunky security" is better than accessibility. Now, the TWC transition to Charter only adds to the fire. TWC, in hindsight, was remarkably loose and friendly compared to what Charter is doing. You don't even get a free month of HBO to placate you after an extended outage... I can only imagine what they are doing on their residential data networks. We see what they are doing to Local 3 of IBEW in NYC... g -- 34A6 0A1F F8EF B465 866F F0C5 5D92 1FD1 ECF6 1682 ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Email Blocked by ISP
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 10:31:09AM -0700, K. Besig wrote: > I've run a home relay on and off for several years and recently, for the > first time, had my email blocked by the ISP rendering it impossible to login > into my 3rd party mail sever. > > When I contacted support I was informed my email password had been reset due > to activity that resembled e-bombing/mass mailing. Only after submitting to > a system scan while the rep waited on the phone,was I able to reset my > password. Was this an exit relay, or a non-exit relay? https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/faq#ExitPolicies The current advice from EFF and us and others is that you shouldn't run an exit relay at home, because there's always some fresh new law enforcement person wanting to make a name for themselves looking for a door to kick down. See e.g. "Should I run an exit relay from my home?" on https://2019.www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq > Wondering if anything other than lowering my tor bandwidth would keep them > off my back... Assuming it's a non-exit relay, I wonder what behavior might have triggered their detectors. It might have been total bandwidth used, or total number of connections open, or a brief period with many outgoing connection attempts. Lowering the rate limiting (bandwidth) for the relay could help with all of those. Or could also be that a few relays listen on common email ports, and if you ever try to connect to one of those, their detector freaks out. Lots of variables, unfortunately. --Roger ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
[tor-relays] Email Blocked by ISP
I've run a home relay on and off for several years and recently, for the first time, had my email blocked by the ISP rendering it impossible to login into my 3rd party mail sever. When I contacted support I was informed my email password had been reset due to activity that resembled e-bombing/mass mailing. Only after submitting to a system scan while the rep waited on the phone,was I able to reset my password. I moved several months ago and went from a TWC legacy account to a Spectrum account. Wondering if anything other than lowering my tor bandwidth would keep them off my back... ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
