Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[n...@cock.li]

Does this happen to be "your" node?
https://globe.torproject.org/#/relay/4544D4026D447CDA4F8E7F22ED73E8565CCA569E


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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Mirimir]

On 05/29/2016 05:28 PM, Greg Moss wrote:
> OMG - I had the same thing happen to me back a few years. What I did was
> completely destroy ALL computer equipment with a hammer. The weird part
> about it was it keeps coming back now even 10 years later.
> On May 29, 2016 3:23 PM, "Percy Blakeney"  wrote:

:)

Less work to just burn it all ;)


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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Greg Moss]

OMG - I had the same thing happen to me back a few years. What I did was
completely destroy ALL computer equipment with a hammer. The weird part
about it was it keeps coming back now even 10 years later.
On May 29, 2016 3:23 PM, "Percy Blakeney"  wrote:

> I did just that.  TWICE.  I now have a total of 5 phones, 3 laptops, 2
> desktops 2 printers, and I'm now on my third router/modem.  Whomever,
> whatever this is knows how to get into the firmware.  I know this sounds
> crazy but it's true. I'd give anything for someone to come here and see for
> themselves.
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Mirimir  wrote:
>
>> On 05/29/2016 10:27 AM, Percy Blakeney wrote:
>> > Whomever is and has been behind this is selective with what I can and
>> can't
>> > see.  I KNOW our electronics are and have been controlled since we moved
>> > here January 2014.  I know this because at one time "they" were
>> interacting
>> > with me on via my desktop.  I was asked if "they" could run a d-bus
>> session
>> > on another computer I have connected.  Not knowing what a d-bus session
>> was
>> > "they" gave me a step by step run down on how to do it.  I did what
>> "they"
>> > asked because it was kind of exciting.  Now in retrospect it's more
>> scary
>> > than anything else. ...
>>
>> Given what you've said, you might want to replace all of your
>> electronics. The router, and all computers and other devices that have
>> been connected to it, through wires or WiFi. Maybe also change ISP.
>>
>> That may seem extreme. For computers, it might be sufficient to replace
>> HDDs/SSDs. But smartphones, you should just replace entirely. The
>> concern is that malware can be hidden in other components, not just in
>> HDDs/SSDs.
>>
>> Also, be very careful about transferring files from old machines. If you
>> must, transfer individual files, not entire folders. Ideally, you would
>> scan each file for malware in an intermediate throwaway machine, running
>> a different OS. Maybe OSX, if your other machines are Windows and Linux.
>> Or Windows, if your other machines are OSX and Linux. You can use USB
>> flash drives. But use a given one only for a given pair of machines, to
>> reduce the risk of transferring malware.
>>
>> 
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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Percy Blakeney]

I did just that.  TWICE.  I now have a total of 5 phones, 3 laptops, 2
desktops 2 printers, and I'm now on my third router/modem.  Whomever,
whatever this is knows how to get into the firmware.  I know this sounds
crazy but it's true. I'd give anything for someone to come here and see for
themselves.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Mirimir  wrote:

> On 05/29/2016 10:27 AM, Percy Blakeney wrote:
> > Whomever is and has been behind this is selective with what I can and
> can't
> > see.  I KNOW our electronics are and have been controlled since we moved
> > here January 2014.  I know this because at one time "they" were
> interacting
> > with me on via my desktop.  I was asked if "they" could run a d-bus
> session
> > on another computer I have connected.  Not knowing what a d-bus session
> was
> > "they" gave me a step by step run down on how to do it.  I did what
> "they"
> > asked because it was kind of exciting.  Now in retrospect it's more scary
> > than anything else. ...
>
> Given what you've said, you might want to replace all of your
> electronics. The router, and all computers and other devices that have
> been connected to it, through wires or WiFi. Maybe also change ISP.
>
> That may seem extreme. For computers, it might be sufficient to replace
> HDDs/SSDs. But smartphones, you should just replace entirely. The
> concern is that malware can be hidden in other components, not just in
> HDDs/SSDs.
>
> Also, be very careful about transferring files from old machines. If you
> must, transfer individual files, not entire folders. Ideally, you would
> scan each file for malware in an intermediate throwaway machine, running
> a different OS. Maybe OSX, if your other machines are Windows and Linux.
> Or Windows, if your other machines are OSX and Linux. You can use USB
> flash drives. But use a given one only for a given pair of machines, to
> reduce the risk of transferring malware.
>
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Mirimir]

On 05/29/2016 10:27 AM, Percy Blakeney wrote:
> Whomever is and has been behind this is selective with what I can and can't
> see.  I KNOW our electronics are and have been controlled since we moved
> here January 2014.  I know this because at one time "they" were interacting
> with me on via my desktop.  I was asked if "they" could run a d-bus session
> on another computer I have connected.  Not knowing what a d-bus session was
> "they" gave me a step by step run down on how to do it.  I did what "they"
> asked because it was kind of exciting.  Now in retrospect it's more scary
> than anything else. ...

Given what you've said, you might want to replace all of your
electronics. The router, and all computers and other devices that have
been connected to it, through wires or WiFi. Maybe also change ISP.

That may seem extreme. For computers, it might be sufficient to replace
HDDs/SSDs. But smartphones, you should just replace entirely. The
concern is that malware can be hidden in other components, not just in
HDDs/SSDs.

Also, be very careful about transferring files from old machines. If you
must, transfer individual files, not entire folders. Ideally, you would
scan each file for malware in an intermediate throwaway machine, running
a different OS. Maybe OSX, if your other machines are Windows and Linux.
Or Windows, if your other machines are OSX and Linux. You can use USB
flash drives. But use a given one only for a given pair of machines, to
reduce the risk of transferring malware.



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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Percy Blakeney]

Back in March I was taking screenshots and pictures with my android of the
different folders and files.  Days after I started to accumulate them I
started to notice they were disappearing from both my phone and computer so
I started to write down everything in a binder.  This was the first files I
found:

Tor accept 192.168.0.0/16
control port 9051
hashed control password
16:872860B76453A77D60CA2BB8C1A7042072093276A3D701AD684053EC4C
hidden service port 80 127.0.0.1:80
hidden service port 22 127.0.0.1:22 (e.g. advertise 443 but bind to 9090)
outgoing traffic 10.0.0.5
nicknamed ididntedittheconfig
each period starts daily at midnight each period starts on the 3rd of the
month at 15:00
contact google Random Person 
directory connections 9030 (e.g. advertise 80 but bind to 9091)
entry guard 4B7B73D5A1F789ED2411A90E03C49C91652FDB95
entry guard AA1B026EE0C8A958E29C67C7D8885FF27572269D
entry (Alligator) 774969EEAA906F269C4E4E1D2E3D8711DA601491
exit fast guard HSDir running stable V2Dir Valid
Pascal 7 Raspberry PI Tor Relay torhbasd brasshornrelay11 cryptonanus
fingerprint ED03BB616EB2F60BEC80151114BB25CEF515B226
tor pid 1597
network manager pid 906
IPv6 privacy RFC4941
ssh agent 1377

When I ran a several different network scans from my android I found my
2.4ghz and 5 ghz wifi names along with HOME-E2DE 2.4 and 5.  My wifi
networks run off channel 6 while the 'HOME' one runs off channel 1.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Percy Blakeney  wrote:

> Whomever is and has been behind this is selective with what I can and
> can't see.  I KNOW our electronics are and have been controlled since we
> moved here January 2014.  I know this because at one time "they" were
> interacting with me on via my desktop.  I was asked if "they" could run a
> d-bus session on another computer I have connected.  Not knowing what a
> d-bus session was "they" gave me a step by step run down on how to do it.
> I did what "they" asked because it was kind of exciting.  Now in retrospect
> it's more scary than anything else.  There are files on my Linux computers
> that show me what to display if I run a netstat command or nstat command so
> even when I try to figure things out I'll continue to get the same results
> every time. Terminal fortune cookies were installed without me installing
> them.  One time upon opening up my terminal the little penguin's thought
> cloud said this: "I am number 2.  You are number 6."  Though I know a
> terminal only takes commands I impulsively typed back within it, "I am not
> a number.  I'm a free man!"  Immediately after I typed that in this popped
> up after my sentence, "I am not a number.  I'm a free man-tor!"  And it was
> then that I started going through my folders and files and found everything
> Tor related.  Even some link that told me I was running through a Tor
> router.
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Arjen  wrote:
>
>> On 05/29/2016 05:28 PM, Percy Blakeney wrote:
>>
>>> Like I stated a few minutes ago, I am and have been running Tor from my
>>> location yet I have nothing to do with it.  I have been sitting on this
>>> for a while.  Before anyone comes down on me for it, you have to
>>> understand what I've been going through with my network.  Tor is only
>>> the tip of the iceberg.  This is as of today:
>>>
>>> usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc
>>>
>>> DataDirectory /var/lib/tor
>>> PIDFile /var/run/tor/tor.pid
>>> RunasDaemon 1
>>> user debian-tor
>>> control socket /var/run/tor/control
>>> control socket group writable 1
>>> cookie authentication 1
>>> cookie auth file group readable 1
>>> cookie auth file /var/run/tor/control-authcookie
>>> log notice file /var/log/tor/log
>>>
>>> etc/tor/torrc
>>>
>>> contact info 0x Random Person 
>>> #Dirport 80 No Listen
>>> #Dirport 127.0.0.1:9091  No Advertise
>>> #Dirport front page /etc/tor/tor-exit-notice.html
>>> #Exit Policy Accept *:6660-6667, reject *:* #allow irc ports but no more
>>> #accept *:119 # accept nntp as well as default exit policy
>>>
>>>
>> The hashes (#) in from of the lines are part of the default inline
>> documentation in the torrc file, and should have no effect because they are
>> comments.
>> It looks like you or someone with root access installed Tor on your
>> computer. You did not send enough of the torrc file to see if it is
>> configured as an exit. It could just be the default configuration after a
>> "sudo apt-get install tor"...
>>
>> If you just want to remove Tor from your machine (which runs Debian?),
>> you could just do: sudo apt-get remove tor
>> However, that might remove any clues as to who installed Tor and why.
>>
>> var/lib/tor
>>>
>>> lock-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not visible to me)
>>> cached-certs-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not
>>> visible to me)
>>> cached-microdescs-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is not
>>> visible to me)
>>> 

Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Percy Blakeney]

Whomever is and has been behind this is selective with what I can and can't
see.  I KNOW our electronics are and have been controlled since we moved
here January 2014.  I know this because at one time "they" were interacting
with me on via my desktop.  I was asked if "they" could run a d-bus session
on another computer I have connected.  Not knowing what a d-bus session was
"they" gave me a step by step run down on how to do it.  I did what "they"
asked because it was kind of exciting.  Now in retrospect it's more scary
than anything else.  There are files on my Linux computers that show me
what to display if I run a netstat command or nstat command so even when I
try to figure things out I'll continue to get the same results every time.
Terminal fortune cookies were installed without me installing them.  One
time upon opening up my terminal the little penguin's thought cloud said
this: "I am number 2.  You are number 6."  Though I know a terminal only
takes commands I impulsively typed back within it, "I am not a number.  I'm
a free man!"  Immediately after I typed that in this popped up after my
sentence, "I am not a number.  I'm a free man-tor!"  And it was then that I
started going through my folders and files and found everything Tor
related.  Even some link that told me I was running through a Tor router.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Arjen  wrote:

> On 05/29/2016 05:28 PM, Percy Blakeney wrote:
>
>> Like I stated a few minutes ago, I am and have been running Tor from my
>> location yet I have nothing to do with it.  I have been sitting on this
>> for a while.  Before anyone comes down on me for it, you have to
>> understand what I've been going through with my network.  Tor is only
>> the tip of the iceberg.  This is as of today:
>>
>> usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc
>>
>> DataDirectory /var/lib/tor
>> PIDFile /var/run/tor/tor.pid
>> RunasDaemon 1
>> user debian-tor
>> control socket /var/run/tor/control
>> control socket group writable 1
>> cookie authentication 1
>> cookie auth file group readable 1
>> cookie auth file /var/run/tor/control-authcookie
>> log notice file /var/log/tor/log
>>
>> etc/tor/torrc
>>
>> contact info 0x Random Person 
>> #Dirport 80 No Listen
>> #Dirport 127.0.0.1:9091  No Advertise
>> #Dirport front page /etc/tor/tor-exit-notice.html
>> #Exit Policy Accept *:6660-6667, reject *:* #allow irc ports but no more
>> #accept *:119 # accept nntp as well as default exit policy
>>
>>
> The hashes (#) in from of the lines are part of the default inline
> documentation in the torrc file, and should have no effect because they are
> comments.
> It looks like you or someone with root access installed Tor on your
> computer. You did not send enough of the torrc file to see if it is
> configured as an exit. It could just be the default configuration after a
> "sudo apt-get install tor"...
>
> If you just want to remove Tor from your machine (which runs Debian?), you
> could just do: sudo apt-get remove tor
> However, that might remove any clues as to who installed Tor and why.
>
> var/lib/tor
>>
>> lock-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not visible to me)
>> cached-certs-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not
>> visible to me)
>> cached-microdescs-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is not
>> visible to me)
>> cached-microdescs.new-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is
>> not visible to me)
>> state-Wed 25 May 2016 04:36:02 AM EDT (This one IS visible)
>> cached-microdesc-consensus-Sun 29 May 2016 09:17:15 AM EDT (File content
>> is not visible to me)
>>
>>
> The contents of the files and logs might only be readable by root, so
> using sudo might help to read them.
>
> tor.pid-32156
>>
>> /var/lib/tor/state
>>
>> #Tor state file last generated on 2016-05-25 04:36:02 local time
>> #Other times below are in UTC
>> #You *do not* need to edit this file.
>>
>> EntryGuard Jans 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2 DirCache
>> EntryGuardAddedBy 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2  0.2.4.27
>> 2016-04-28 16:16:20
>>
>> THERE'S WAY more to the above file but I'm not sure what I should and
>> shouldn't share on here.  As a matter of fact, I'm not sure what half of
>> this stuff means so I've spent the last few months trying to educate
>> myself on as much of this as possible.  Like I said, I am MORE than
>> willing to talk to anyone out there who may be able to help.
>>
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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Ana Lucia Cortez]

On 29.05.2016 at 17:28, Percy Blakeney wrote:
> Like I stated a few minutes ago, I am and have been running Tor from my
> location yet I have nothing to do with it.  I have been sitting on this
> for a while.  Before anyone comes down on me for it, you have to
> understand what I've been going through with my network.  Tor is only
> the tip of the iceberg.  

Its not an Exit. So nobody will likely come down on you about it.


> EntryGuard Jans 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2 DirCache
> EntryGuardAddedBy 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2  0.2.4.27
> 2016-04-28 16:16:20

That long number is the fingerprint unique to every node. With this you
can see more about it here:
https://globe.torproject.org/#/relay/50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2

Apparently its running since August, 4 2015, 2 AM. Since nearly a year.

> 

Its not clear to me what kind of help do you want.

Do you want to stop running the Tor node?
What Linux distro and version are you running?


Is this iceberg a server you own? Why don't you have root/admin access
then? Who set it up?
Maybe just power the machine down?

Greetings from Zurich

Ana



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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Arjen]

On 05/29/2016 05:28 PM, Percy Blakeney wrote:

Like I stated a few minutes ago, I am and have been running Tor from my
location yet I have nothing to do with it.  I have been sitting on this
for a while.  Before anyone comes down on me for it, you have to
understand what I've been going through with my network.  Tor is only
the tip of the iceberg.  This is as of today:

usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc

DataDirectory /var/lib/tor
PIDFile /var/run/tor/tor.pid
RunasDaemon 1
user debian-tor
control socket /var/run/tor/control
control socket group writable 1
cookie authentication 1
cookie auth file group readable 1
cookie auth file /var/run/tor/control-authcookie
log notice file /var/log/tor/log

etc/tor/torrc

contact info 0x Random Person 
#Dirport 80 No Listen
#Dirport 127.0.0.1:9091  No Advertise
#Dirport front page /etc/tor/tor-exit-notice.html
#Exit Policy Accept *:6660-6667, reject *:* #allow irc ports but no more
#accept *:119 # accept nntp as well as default exit policy



The hashes (#) in from of the lines are part of the default inline 
documentation in the torrc file, and should have no effect because they 
are comments.
It looks like you or someone with root access installed Tor on your 
computer. You did not send enough of the torrc file to see if it is 
configured as an exit. It could just be the default configuration after 
a "sudo apt-get install tor"...


If you just want to remove Tor from your machine (which runs Debian?), 
you could just do: sudo apt-get remove tor

However, that might remove any clues as to who installed Tor and why.


var/lib/tor

lock-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not visible to me)
cached-certs-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not
visible to me)
cached-microdescs-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is not
visible to me)
cached-microdescs.new-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is
not visible to me)
state-Wed 25 May 2016 04:36:02 AM EDT (This one IS visible)
cached-microdesc-consensus-Sun 29 May 2016 09:17:15 AM EDT (File content
is not visible to me)



The contents of the files and logs might only be readable by root, so 
using sudo might help to read them.



tor.pid-32156

/var/lib/tor/state

#Tor state file last generated on 2016-05-25 04:36:02 local time
#Other times below are in UTC
#You *do not* need to edit this file.

EntryGuard Jans 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2 DirCache
EntryGuardAddedBy 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2  0.2.4.27
2016-04-28 16:16:20

THERE'S WAY more to the above file but I'm not sure what I should and
shouldn't share on here.  As a matter of fact, I'm not sure what half of
this stuff means so I've spent the last few months trying to educate
myself on as much of this as possible.  Like I said, I am MORE than
willing to talk to anyone out there who may be able to help.


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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Percy Blakeney]

I mean I didn't do any of this.  I did not create ONE Tor related file on
any of my computers.  It would appear by my files and folders that I'm
running this but I'm not.  When I contact my ISP regarding my router
configuration they seem to be seeing a different screen than what I'm
seeing or they're lying.  I'm new to all of this so my apologies if I'm
slow.  Until right now I was prevented from contacting anyone regarding
this issue.  What I mean by prevented is, either my email would refuse to
send or my connection would be lost or even my router resetting itself.
Because I was somehow being prevented from contacting anyone via my home
connection I went to two separate libraries wherein I tried to contact the
EFF.  Each time I clicked to send my concerning email my designated
computer would time out then shut down.  I know this sounds crazy but this
has been my life since September 2015, when I started to become more aware
and as self-educated as possible.  I want you to be aware there is an exit
out there coming from my computers that I am not in control of.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:47 AM, I  wrote:

> Percy,
>
> What do you mean when you say you have nothing to do with your exit node?
>
> What do you want help to do?
>
> Robert
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Re: [tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

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Percy,What do you mean when you say you have nothing to do with your exit node?What do you want help to do?Robert



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[tor-relays] I'm Running A Tor Exit Node And NEVER Initiated It

[Percy Blakeney]

Like I stated a few minutes ago, I am and have been running Tor from my
location yet I have nothing to do with it.  I have been sitting on this for
a while.  Before anyone comes down on me for it, you have to understand
what I've been going through with my network.  Tor is only the tip of the
iceberg.  This is as of today:

usr/share/tor/tor-service-defaults-torrc

DataDirectory /var/lib/tor
PIDFile /var/run/tor/tor.pid
RunasDaemon 1
user debian-tor
control socket /var/run/tor/control
control socket group writable 1
cookie authentication 1
cookie auth file group readable 1
cookie auth file /var/run/tor/control-authcookie
log notice file /var/log/tor/log

etc/tor/torrc

contact info 0x Random Person 
#Dirport 80 No Listen
#Dirport 127.0.0.1:9091 No Advertise
#Dirport front page /etc/tor/tor-exit-notice.html
#Exit Policy Accept *:6660-6667, reject *:* #allow irc ports but no more
#accept *:119 # accept nntp as well as default exit policy

var/lib/tor

lock-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not visible to me)
cached-certs-Mon 16 May 2016 09:48:32 PM EDT (File content is not visible
to me)
cached-microdescs-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is not
visible to me)
cached-microdescs.new-Mon 16 May 2016 10:18:34 PM EDT (File content is not
visible to me)
state-Wed 25 May 2016 04:36:02 AM EDT (This one IS visible)
cached-microdesc-consensus-Sun 29 May 2016 09:17:15 AM EDT (File content is
not visible to me)

tor.pid-32156

/var/lib/tor/state

#Tor state file last generated on 2016-05-25 04:36:02 local time
#Other times below are in UTC
#You *do not* need to edit this file.

EntryGuard Jans 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2 DirCache
EntryGuardAddedBy 50586E25BE067FD1F739998550EDDCB1A14CA5B2  0.2.4.27
2016-04-28 16:16:20

THERE'S WAY more to the above file but I'm not sure what I should and
shouldn't share on here.  As a matter of fact, I'm not sure what half of
this stuff means so I've spent the last few months trying to educate myself
on as much of this as possible.  Like I said, I am MORE than willing to
talk to anyone out there who may be able to help.
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