Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[Duncan Guthrie]

Um, did you mean to reply to this thread?

On 24 October 2016 15:32:08 BST, tor admin  wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 02:20:06PM +0200, Volker Mink wrote:
>>Mine is running for close to two years now and i got 2 regular
>complaints
>>with specific accusation (torrent...) from known german lawyers.
>>And one really common from my ISP - "we detected illegal
>activities.
>>please perform a virus scan on your computers...".
>> 
>>Thats all :)
>
>cool, I'm about to move a relay to exit node, I'm a bit scared do.
>Do you run the "standard" [1] restricted exit policy? do you run an
>even more
>reduced exit policy? could you shared it?
>
>thanks!
>
>[1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy
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Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[Volker Mink]

https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/E20FF09A9A800B16C1C7C16E8C0DF95F46F649B0
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0534295ACFD5A84312183B41D3FB275E9ADD9EE2

look there ;)



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On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 02:20:06PM +0200, Volker Mink wrote:
>Mine is running for close to two years now and i got 2 regular complaints
>with specific accusation (torrent...) from known german lawyers.
>And one really common from my ISP - "we detected illegal activities.
>please perform a virus scan on your computers...".
> 
>Thats all :)

cool, I'm about to move a relay to exit node, I'm a bit scared do.
Do you run the "standard" [1] restricted exit policy? do you run an even more 
reduced exit policy? could you shared it?

thanks!

[1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy

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Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[Toralf Förster]

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On 10/24/2016 05:08 PM, Robin Kjeld wrote:
> So, I changed SSH to be Rejected. And it's been working fine since then. So, 
> it's basically the ReducedExitPolicy but without SSH. 
> /Robin
I kicked off telnet and whois (and ftp a long time ago) too for similar reasons.

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Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[Robin Kjeld]

I started running a small Exit Node (nostromo) from a VPS (Pulse Servers), with 
the ReducedExitPolicy but after a few days got a "Abuse complaint" regarding 
SSH sessions. Apparently, there was alot of SSH connections and they were 
scanning for vunerable/misconfigured SSH connections. And, a note from the Tech 
Support stating that they "didn't allow SSH on the exit nodes". 

So, I changed SSH to be Rejected. And it's been working fine since then. So, 
it's basically the ReducedExitPolicy but without SSH. 
/Robin


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From: tor admin <tor-ad...@zumbi.com.ar>
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor 
exits to those of regular ISPs
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 22:32:08 +0800

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 02:20:06PM +0200, Volker Mink wrote:
>Mine is running for close to two years now and i got 2 regular complaints
>with specific accusation (torrent...) from known german lawyers.
>And one really common from my ISP - "we detected illegal activities.
>please perform a virus scan on your computers...".
> 
>Thats all :)

cool, I'm about to move a relay to exit node, I'm a bit scared do.
Do you run the "standard" [1] restricted exit policy? do you run an even more
reduced exit policy? could you shared it?

thanks!

[1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy

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Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[tor admin]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 02:20:06PM +0200, Volker Mink wrote:
>Mine is running for close to two years now and i got 2 regular complaints
>with specific accusation (torrent...) from known german lawyers.
>And one really common from my ISP - "we detected illegal activities.
>please perform a virus scan on your computers...".
> 
>Thats all :)

cool, I'm about to move a relay to exit node, I'm a bit scared do.
Do you run the "standard" [1] restricted exit policy? do you run an even more
reduced exit policy? could you shared it?

thanks!

[1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy

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Re: [tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[Volker Mink]

Mine is running for close to two years now and i got 2 regular complaints with specific accusation (torrent...) from known german lawyers.

And one really common from my ISP - "we detected illegal activities. please perform a virus scan on your computers...".

 

Thats all :)

 

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Hi folks,

I am looking to research what proportion of Tor traffic across a Tor
exit is "legitimate"/regular internet traffic, by comparing abuse
complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs. I think this is an
interesting project because it is illegal to analyse traffic on the exit
node without amounting to a wiretap, so this is a good way to get some
idea about what traffic is comparable to regular internet traffic.

I am aware that some people on this list run small ISPs. I am asking a
favour that you might be able to send me a sample of abuse complaints
over several months, or at least and some idea of how many complaints
you recieved. I would need to know what type of complaint they were
(torrenting vs more serious complaints), and the volume of traffic that
passed through your network.

My public key is posted below.

Thank you,
Duncan Guthrie

4096R/16BD5A5D
425A BEE8 24BB 7665 7FDC F7B6 8767 0301 16BD 5A5D


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[tor-relays] Research project - comparing abuse complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs

[dguthrie]

Hi folks,

I am looking to research what proportion of Tor traffic across a Tor 
exit is "legitimate"/regular internet traffic, by comparing abuse 
complaints on Tor exits to those of regular ISPs. I think this is an 
interesting project because it is illegal to analyse traffic on the exit 
node without amounting to a wiretap, so this is a good way to get some 
idea about what traffic is comparable to regular internet traffic.


I am aware that some people on this list run small ISPs. I am asking a 
favour that you might be able to send me a sample of abuse complaints 
over several months, or at least and some idea of how many complaints 
you recieved. I would need to know what type of complaint they were 
(torrenting vs more serious complaints), and the volume of traffic that 
passed through your network.


My public key is posted below.

Thank you,
Duncan Guthrie

4096R/16BD5A5D
425A BEE8 24BB 7665 7FDC  F7B6 8767 0301 16BD 5A5D


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