Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread Keifer Bly
As in middle relays, not exit relays.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:48 PM Keifer Bly  wrote:

> Yes. But am trying to decide, Could the network use more bridges or relays?
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:43 PM John Ricketts  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for running a bridge!
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:37, Keifer Bly  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, I recently had to swich over to a new relay, I was formerly
>> running a normal relay, but had to switch to a different OS (Windows 10)
>> because Apple dropped support for my hardware, so I installed Windows 10
>> via bootcamp. Unfortunately my relay keys were lost in the result.
>>
>> The OBFS4 bridge I started today is here:
>> https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/148BD64BED9F2C27637D986DE032ECF14E5B9E9A
>>
>> I should have been a little bit more specific with what I was was asking,
>> based on the current state of the network, between either bridges or
>> relays, which could the network use more of?
>>
>> Thanks for the thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:10 PM Roger Dingledine  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:07:38PM -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
>>> > So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am
>>> wondering if
>>> > running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful?
>>> Thank
>>> > you.
>>>
>>> Hopefully this FAQ entry will be helpful:
>>> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> --Roger
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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread Keifer Bly
Yes. But am trying to decide, Could the network use more bridges or relays?

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:43 PM John Ricketts  wrote:

> Thanks for running a bridge!
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:37, Keifer Bly  wrote:
>
> Thank you, I recently had to swich over to a new relay, I was formerly
> running a normal relay, but had to switch to a different OS (Windows 10)
> because Apple dropped support for my hardware, so I installed Windows 10
> via bootcamp. Unfortunately my relay keys were lost in the result.
>
> The OBFS4 bridge I started today is here:
> https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/148BD64BED9F2C27637D986DE032ECF14E5B9E9A
>
> I should have been a little bit more specific with what I was was asking,
> based on the current state of the network, between either bridges or
> relays, which could the network use more of?
>
> Thanks for the thoughts.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:10 PM Roger Dingledine  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:07:38PM -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
>> > So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering
>> if
>> > running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful?
>> Thank
>> > you.
>>
>> Hopefully this FAQ entry will be helpful:
>> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --Roger
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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread John Ricketts
Thanks for running a bridge!

On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:37, Keifer Bly 
mailto:keifer@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you, I recently had to swich over to a new relay, I was formerly running 
a normal relay, but had to switch to a different OS (Windows 10) because Apple 
dropped support for my hardware, so I installed Windows 10 via bootcamp. 
Unfortunately my relay keys were lost in the result.

The OBFS4 bridge I started today is here: 
https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/148BD64BED9F2C27637D986DE032ECF14E5B9E9A

I should have been a little bit more specific with what I was was asking, based 
on the current state of the network, between either bridges or relays, which 
could the network use more of?

Thanks for the thoughts.



On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:10 PM Roger Dingledine 
mailto:a...@mit.edu>> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:07:38PM -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
> So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if
> running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank
> you.

Hopefully this FAQ entry will be helpful:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge

Thanks!
--Roger

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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread John Ricketts
I did add a disclaimer to the fact that others may have a differing opinion.  
:-)

As far as my answer being related to fear, uncertainty, and doubt... in my 
country (and others) raids have happened to people that have ran exit relays at 
home.  Some of these were done pre-dawn which adds to confusion which could 
lead to physical risk.

Just my two cents.

John (@aquintex)

On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:35, I 
mailto:beatthebasta...@inbox.com>> wrote:

Is this answer and its FUD pertaining solely to USA?
If so, why not say so as there is actually a world beyond the walled garden and 
some may feel they do not have the same threats where they live.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or 
normal relay?

Keifer,

Great question. My advice (which may differ from others) would based on the 
location of your connection. If this is in your home I would become a middle 
relay or perhaps a bridge. Running an exit relay from home will put you in 
legal (and potentially physical) danger.

If this is a connection in a non-residential location and have authorization to 
run an exit relay, I would do that.

Thanks!
John (@aquintex)


> On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:08, Keifer Bly 
> mailto:keifer@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if 
> running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank you.
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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread I





Is this answer and its FUD pertaining solely to USA?If so, why not say so as there is actually a world beyond the walled garden and some may feel they do not have the same threats where they live. -Original Message-From: j...@quintex.comSent: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:13:41 +To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.orgSubject: Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?Keifer,Great question.  My advice (which may differ from others) would based on the location of your connection.  If this is in your home I would become a middle relay or perhaps a bridge. Running an exit relay from home will put you in legal (and potentially physical) danger.If this is a connection in a non-residential location  and have authorization to run an exit relay, I would do that.Thanks!John (@aquintex)> On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:08, Keifer Bly  wrote:> > Hi,> > So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank you.> ___> tor-relays mailing list> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays___tor-relays mailing listtor-relays@lists.torproject.orghttps://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays




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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread John Ricketts
Keifer,

Great question.  My advice (which may differ from others) would based on the 
location of your connection.  If this is in your home I would become a middle 
relay or perhaps a bridge. Running an exit relay from home will put you in 
legal (and potentially physical) danger.

If this is a connection in a non-residential location  and have authorization 
to run an exit relay, I would do that.

Thanks!
John (@aquintex)


> On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:08, Keifer Bly  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if 
> running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank you.
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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread John Ricketts
and what Roger says  his answer (and link) is more detailed. 

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 22:10, Roger Dingledine  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:07:38PM -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
>> So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if
>> running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank
>> you.
> 
> Hopefully this FAQ entry will be helpful:
> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge
> 
> Thanks!
> --Roger
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Re: [tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 08:07:38PM -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
> So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if
> running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank
> you.

Hopefully this FAQ entry will be helpful:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayOrBridge

Thanks!
--Roger

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[tor-relays] Which would be more helpful, to run a bridge or normal relay?

2018-10-11 Thread Keifer Bly
Hi,

So I just set up a new relay via the Tor expert bundle and am wondering if
running a normal relay or a bridge would currently be more helpful? Thank
you.
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