Re: [tor-relays] VPS w/FDE suggestions?

[boldsuck]

On Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2024 18:08:32 CET Bartosz Zieba wrote:
> > Don't know what FDE is, but at Frantech/BuyVM you can install everything
> > because you can upload your own ISO.
> 
> FDE means Full Disk Encryption.
> 
> Remember, running FDE in virtual environment we give access to
> encryption keys to admin of the host machine :)

Any admin can make a full backup of a 24/7/365 running KVM or cloud machine.
Regardless of whether it is encrypted or not. ;-)

Also with dedicated servers or in colocation:
Encrypting a Tor relay hd, especially exits, is NOT recommended!
In the event of a seizure, it could take months or years to get your server 
back.

We don't host files, we don't have logs. A Tor relay is a dumb router that 
forwards
encrypted traffic. Other than the master identity key's, there is nothing
interesting on a Tor relay. Therefore, use offline relay identity keys:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorRelaySecurity/OfflineKeys

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS w/FDE suggestions?

[Bartosz Zieba]

Don't know what FDE is, but at Frantech/BuyVM you can install everything
because you can upload your own ISO.


FDE means Full Disk Encryption.

Remember, running FDE in virtual environment we give access to 
encryption keys to admin of the host machine :)


Best,
Bart

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS w/FDE suggestions?

[boldsuck]

On Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2024 00:18:28 CET MRob via tor-relays wrote:

> Hello- Im looking for <= $6/mo VPS suggestions for general non-tor
> server and also for tor. Some super-cheap hosts pre-install O/S and give
> root but I want to install O/S myself so can put in FDE. Hard to see
> which hosts can do this.

Don't know what FDE is, but at Frantech/BuyVM you can install everything
because you can upload your own ISO.

SirNeo made a good list:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/185210/tor-relay-bridge

Also:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/183226/looking-for-virtual-servers-for-10-tor-exit-nodes

Read first:
https://community.torproject.org/relay/technical-considerations/
AS/location diversity

Try to avoid the following hosters:
OVH SAS (AS16276)
Online S.a.s. (AS12876)
Hetzner Online GmbH (AS24940)
DigitalOcean, LLC (AS14061)


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS w/FDE suggestions?

[Paul Templeton]

IONOS is good - just keep the data throughput around 25%, and they should leave 
you alone.

Paul

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Subject: [tor-relays] VPS w/FDE suggestions?

Hello- Im looking for <= $6/mo VPS suggestions for general non-tor 
server and also for tor. Some super-cheap hosts pre-install O/S and give 
root but I want to install O/S myself so can put in FDE. Hard to see 
which hosts can do this.

I tried Linode before and yes, could get FDE
($5 1GB, 1CPU, 25GB, 1TB)

Is IONOS any good? Can I get FDE there??
($2 1GB, 1CPU, 10GB, ?TB)
($3 2GB, 2CPU, 80GB, ?TB)
($6 4GB, 2CPU, 160GB, ?TB)

Others caught my eye:

hudsonvalleyhost
($3.95 1GB, 1CPU, 25GB, 20TB)
($6.95 2GB, 2CPU, 50GB, 20TB)

liquidweb
($5 1GB, 1CPU, 30GB, 1TB)

digitalocean
($6 1GB, 1CPU, 25GB, 20TB)

ovhcloud
($4.20 2GB, 1CPU, 20GB, 100Mbps unmetered)
($5.50 2GB, 2CPU, 40GB, 500Mbps unmetered)

brownrice
($5.95 3GB, 1CPU, 10GB, unlimited)
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits and non-Exits

[Jean-Philippe Décarie-Mathieu]

In my case, the decision to host my Tor VPS on OVH's infrastructure is
to support a business that is based in Québec. Ideology aside, I agree
that network diversity is key (along with the multiplication of exit nodes).

Regards,

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On 2016-07-06 04:39 PM, pa011 wrote:
>
> Am 06.07.2016 um 22:09 schrieb Iain R. Learmonth:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 06/07/16 18:25, tor relay wrote:
 I've been running an exit node for over a year on OVH now, no problems
 so far. Highly recommended (especially since they give me 10TB of
 traffic for about 10$USD/month; considering I use about 7-8TB of that
 per month, it's well worth it).
>>> OVH is used to much by tor operators already (>12% of the tor network
>>> capacity is there).
>> Not the most performance enhanced page on the web but:
>>
>> https://metrics.torproject.org/bubbles.html
>>
>> This bubble graph shows where relays are located by autonomous system.
>> If you're looking to set up new relays, attempting to grow smaller
>> bubbles here (the names should be googleable enough) or trying to add
>> new ones would definitely be preferred over adding more to OVH.
>>
>> It's great that OVH are Tor-friendly, but diversity of the network is
>> important.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Iain.
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> "..diversity of the network is important." -very important - what if a
> far Western European government decides on the next "state of emergency"
> to ban Tor and "asks" their domestic ISPs for support?
>
> There are other Providers who give you 15-50 TB/month for less than 10 Euro.
>
> Dig for them - don’t follow the pack!
>
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits and non-Exits

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> I find https://compass.torproject.org more convenient for that
> task.
+1
The bubbles aren't useful IMO.

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits and non-Exits

[nusenu]

> On 06/07/16 18:25, tor relay wrote:
>>> I've been running an exit node for over a year on OVH now, no problems
>>> so far. Highly recommended (especially since they give me 10TB of
>>> traffic for about 10$USD/month; considering I use about 7-8TB of that
>>> per month, it's well worth it).
>>
>> OVH is used to much by tor operators already (>12% of the tor network
>> capacity is there).
> 
> Not the most performance enhanced page on the web but:
> 
> https://metrics.torproject.org/bubbles.html
> 
> This bubble graph shows where relays are located by autonomous system.
> If you're looking to set up new relays, attempting to grow smaller
> bubbles here (the names should be googleable enough) or trying to add
> new ones would definitely be preferred over adding more to OVH.

I find https://compass.torproject.org more convenient for that task.



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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits and non-Exits

[nusenu]

> On 06/07/16 18:25, tor relay wrote:
>>> I've been running an exit node for over a year on OVH now, no problems
>>> so far. Highly recommended (especially since they give me 10TB of
>>> traffic for about 10$USD/month; considering I use about 7-8TB of that
>>> per month, it's well worth it).
>>
>> OVH is used to much by tor operators already (>12% of the tor network
>> capacity is there).
> 
> Not the most performance enhanced page on the web but:
> 
> https://metrics.torproject.org/bubbles.html
> 
> This bubble graph shows where relays are located by autonomous system.
> If you're looking to set up new relays, attempting to grow smaller
> bubbles here (the names should be googleable enough) or trying to add
> new ones would definitely be preferred over adding more to OVH.

I find https://compasss.torproject.org more convenient for that task.



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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits and non-Exits

[pa011]

Am 06.07.2016 um 22:09 schrieb Iain R. Learmonth:
> Hi,
> 
> On 06/07/16 18:25, tor relay wrote:
>>> I've been running an exit node for over a year on OVH now, no problems
>>> so far. Highly recommended (especially since they give me 10TB of
>>> traffic for about 10$USD/month; considering I use about 7-8TB of that
>>> per month, it's well worth it).
>>
>> OVH is used to much by tor operators already (>12% of the tor network
>> capacity is there).
> 
> Not the most performance enhanced page on the web but:
> 
> https://metrics.torproject.org/bubbles.html
> 
> This bubble graph shows where relays are located by autonomous system.
> If you're looking to set up new relays, attempting to grow smaller
> bubbles here (the names should be googleable enough) or trying to add
> new ones would definitely be preferred over adding more to OVH.
> 
> It's great that OVH are Tor-friendly, but diversity of the network is
> important.
> 
> Thanks,
> Iain.
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"..diversity of the network is important." -very important - what if a
far Western European government decides on the next "state of emergency"
to ban Tor and "asks" their domestic ISPs for support?

There are other Providers who give you 15-50 TB/month for less than 10 Euro.

Dig for them - don’t follow the pack!


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits and non-Exits

[Iain R. Learmonth]

Hi,

On 06/07/16 18:25, tor relay wrote:
>> I've been running an exit node for over a year on OVH now, no problems
>> so far. Highly recommended (especially since they give me 10TB of
>> traffic for about 10$USD/month; considering I use about 7-8TB of that
>> per month, it's well worth it).
> 
> OVH is used to much by tor operators already (>12% of the tor network
> capacity is there).

Not the most performance enhanced page on the web but:

https://metrics.torproject.org/bubbles.html

This bubble graph shows where relays are located by autonomous system.
If you're looking to set up new relays, attempting to grow smaller
bubbles here (the names should be googleable enough) or trying to add
new ones would definitely be preferred over adding more to OVH.

It's great that OVH are Tor-friendly, but diversity of the network is
important.

Thanks,
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Jean-Philippe Décarie-Mathieu]

I've been running an exit node for over a year on OVH now, no problems
so far. Highly recommended (especially since they give me 10TB of
traffic for about 10$USD/month; considering I use about 7-8TB of that
per month, it's well worth it).

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On 2016-07-06 04:19 AM, tor relay wrote:
>
> > Well, I'm still sticking with CoolHousing/Virtual Server Lite
> because I hardly ever get abuse
> > complaints. For ITL, I may leave after my term expires.
>
> > But a few other companies I found were:
>
> > https://hostmaze.com/
>
> tested it, made really bad experience with them, network performance
> was almost unusable <10MBit/s
> lately, they had an outage of 2 days ("because voxility upstream added
> two new uplinks", than I canceled)
>
> > https://blazingfast.io/
>
> made also bad experience with them, like "fatal" said, their network
> performance isn't the best <20MBit/s (per direction) weekly average
>
>
> If anyone can recommend any other hosters, please come forward.
>
>
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Markus Koch]

I am testing www.hostwinds.com and www.digitalocean.com right now,
both work fine atm.

Markus



2016-07-06 10:19 GMT+02:00 tor relay :
>> Well, I'm still sticking with CoolHousing/Virtual Server Lite because I
>> hardly ever get abuse
>> complaints. For ITL, I may leave after my term expires.
>
>> But a few other companies I found were:
>
>> https://hostmaze.com/
>
> tested it, made really bad experience with them, network performance was
> almost unusable <10MBit/s
> lately, they had an outage of 2 days ("because voxility upstream added two
> new uplinks", than I canceled)
>
>> https://blazingfast.io/
>
> made also bad experience with them, like "fatal" said, their network
> performance isn't the best <20MBit/s (per direction) weekly average
>
>
> If anyone can recommend any other hosters, please come forward.
>
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[tor relay]

> Well, I'm still sticking with CoolHousing/Virtual Server Lite because I 
> hardly ever get abuse
> complaints. For ITL, I may leave after my term expires.

> But a few other companies I found were:

> https://hostmaze.com/

tested it, made really bad experience with them, network performance was almost 
unusable <10MBit/s
lately, they had an outage of 2 days ("because voxility upstream added two new 
uplinks", than I canceled)

> https://blazingfast.io/

made also bad experience with them, like "fatal" said, their network 
performance isn't the best <20MBit/s (per direction) weekly average


If anyone can recommend any other hosters, please come forward.
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Tristan]

The problem with Pulse is that they use OVH, and that service is already
heavily saturated with Tor nodes.
On May 25, 2016 5:32 PM, "Jesse V"  wrote:

>
> You can add Pulse Servers to the list. I think they are happy as long as
> you don't use an excessive amount of bandwidth per month. A rough
> estimate of the maximum is 10 TB per month per tier, but less is better.
>
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Jesse V]

You can add Pulse Servers to the list. I think they are happy as long as
you don't use an excessive amount of bandwidth per month. A rough
estimate of the maximum is 10 TB per month per tier, but less is better.

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[fatal]

> https://blazingfast.io/

they shut down my exit without further notice and it was blazingslow

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Neel Chauhan]

> An exit node could be expensive ...

Well, I'm still sticking with CoolHousing/Virtual Server Lite because I 
hardly ever get abuse complaints. For ITL, I may leave after my term 
expires.


But a few other companies I found were:

https://hostmaze.com/
https://www.lcsnet.eu/index.php
https://serverastra.com/
https://blazingfast.io/

Thanks,
Neel Chauhan
https://www.neelc.org/

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[grarpamp]

First, you don't need to keep asking for hosts when you
can simply whois the consensus for them.
Second, network diversity requires that you find new hosts,
use your telephone book.
Third, there are risks to asking for referrals,
and to piling on top of non-diversity...

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/13/fbi_cyber_expert_is_ex_discount_furniture_salesman/
Mularski befriended the criminal mastermind behind the site and
persuaded him to let Mularski move the operation onto new computer
servers. The servers happened to belong to the FBI, which led to more
than 60 arrests worldwide.
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Neel Chauhan]

I contacted ITL (https://itldc.com/) as well two weeks ago. To me they
refused opening an exit: "We decide to do not allow new public tor 
exit

nodes in our network. Existing public tor exit nodes we be kept."


Well that's unfortunate. I guess I'll have to hold on to my VPS for a 
long time. No wonder why someone on this mailing list had trouble with 
ITL earlier this month. They no longer want exit nodes.


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[pa011]

I contacted ITL (https://itldc.com/) as well two weeks ago. To me they
refused opening an exit: "We decide to do not allow new public tor exit
nodes in our network. Existing public tor exit nodes we be kept."

Paul



Am 21.05.2016 um 14:37 schrieb Neel Chauhan:
>>Do you know of a VPS for an exit?
> I have two exits on VPS servers. One is on ITL (https://itldc.com/), and
> the other one is on CoolHousing using their Virtual Server Lite brand
> (http://virtualniserverlite.cz/en/). My experience with both hosts has
> been very good. For the latter, you WILL need a Reduced Exit Policy, and
> have to remove IRC ports.
> 
> I also previously had a VPS with Verelox (https://verelox.com/) when
> they had unlimited bandwidth, and they allow Tor exit nodes as well.
> 
> I don't know about other providers, but a good place to ask for a Tor
> friendly VPS is vpsBoard (https://vpsboard.com/).
> 
> -Neel Chauhan
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for Exits

[Neel Chauhan]

>Do you know of a VPS for an exit?
I have two exits on VPS servers. One is on ITL (https://itldc.com/), 
and the other one is on CoolHousing using their Virtual Server Lite 
brand (http://virtualniserverlite.cz/en/). My experience with both 
hosts has been very good. For the latter, you WILL need a Reduced Exit 
Policy, and have to remove IRC ports.


I also previously had a VPS with Verelox (https://verelox.com/) when 
they had unlimited bandwidth, and they allow Tor exit nodes as well.


I don't know about other providers, but a good place to ask for a Tor 
friendly VPS is vpsBoard (https://vpsboard.com/).


-Neel Chauhan
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[I]

Thank you but I meant in Uruguay.
Hostwinds is a pretty good US-based VPS. The price is good, and you get 10TB of bandwidth to start with. 
Do you know of a VPS for an exit?





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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/Tor Almost There

[David Schulz]

Try other ports or ask the hoster, if he blocks ports?! Or try 80 and 
443, if there are free at your server.


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David Schulz 

Am 06.12.2015 um 17:15 schrieb Kurt Besig:

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Thanks again for all the support everyone has bee extremely helpful.
So, I reinstalled the OS on the VPS: lsb_release -d
Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
uname -r  2.6.32-042stab102.9

Finally solved all the permissions problems, paths are correct, tor
and arm open properly.
The problem now boils down to this:
The VPS isn't allowing Ports 9001 and 9030
Should I investigate further getting my iptables up and running or
just contact the admin and have them allow the ports?
As I mentioned previously even after saving the tables upon reboot
iptables -L shows no rules, the file is empty.

  :~$ iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
  Any further suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/Tor Almost There

[ZEROF]

David, low ports numbers are not good idea, he can have same issues. For my
firewall i need to use something more then 9000 to make my exit/relay to
work with my ISP.

On 6 December 2015 at 17:46, David Schulz  wrote:

> Try other ports or ask the hoster, if he blocks ports?! Or try 80 and 443,
> if there are free at your server.
>
> ---
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely
>
> David Schulz 
>
>
> Am 06.12.2015 um 17:15 schrieb Kurt Besig:
>
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>> Thanks again for all the support everyone has bee extremely helpful.
>> So, I reinstalled the OS on the VPS: lsb_release -d
>> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
>> uname -r  2.6.32-042stab102.9
>>
>> Finally solved all the permissions problems, paths are correct, tor
>> and arm open properly.
>> The problem now boils down to this:
>> The VPS isn't allowing Ports 9001 and 9030
>> Should I investigate further getting my iptables up and running or
>> just contact the admin and have them allow the ports?
>> As I mentioned previously even after saving the tables upon reboot
>> iptables -L shows no rules, the file is empty.
>>
>>   :~$ iptables -L
>> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
>> target prot opt source   destination
>>
>> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
>> target prot opt source   destination
>>
>> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
>> target prot opt source   destination
>>   Any further suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/Tor Almost There

[Damian Busby]

The issue with the iptables rules not being loaded has to do with a script
not being installed. On Debian it is iptables-persistent, and seems to be
the same for Ubuntu. Once that is installed, you can save the rules you
want reloaded by running:

iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4
ip6tables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v6

That is the default location for the files that the init.d script will load
at startup.

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any more questions or I got
anything wrong.

Damian (The other one)


On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 8:53 AM ZEROF  wrote:

> David, low ports numbers are not good idea, he can have same issues. For
> my firewall i need to use something more then 9000 to make my exit/relay to
> work with my ISP.
>
> On 6 December 2015 at 17:46, David Schulz  wrote:
>
>> Try other ports or ask the hoster, if he blocks ports?! Or try 80 and
>> 443, if there are free at your server.
>>
>> ---
>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely
>>
>> David Schulz 
>>
>>
>> Am 06.12.2015 um 17:15 schrieb Kurt Besig:
>>
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>>> Thanks again for all the support everyone has bee extremely helpful.
>>> So, I reinstalled the OS on the VPS: lsb_release -d
>>> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
>>> uname -r  2.6.32-042stab102.9
>>>
>>> Finally solved all the permissions problems, paths are correct, tor
>>> and arm open properly.
>>> The problem now boils down to this:
>>> The VPS isn't allowing Ports 9001 and 9030
>>> Should I investigate further getting my iptables up and running or
>>> just contact the admin and have them allow the ports?
>>> As I mentioned previously even after saving the tables upon reboot
>>> iptables -L shows no rules, the file is empty.
>>>
>>>   :~$ iptables -L
>>> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
>>> target prot opt source   destination
>>>
>>> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
>>> target prot opt source   destination
>>>
>>> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
>>> target prot opt source   destination
>>>   Any further suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/Tor Almost There

[Tim Wilson-Brown - teor]

Hi Kurt,

You need to know the public IPv4 address of your relay.
Until you have the address correct, it's hard to tell whether you need to open 
any ports or not.
>  Dec 05 21:17:46.000 [notice] Your IP address seems to have changed
>  to 167.114.35.28 (METHOD=INTERFACE). Updating. Dec 05 21:17:46.000
>  [notice] Our IP Address has changed from 142.4.217.95 to
>  167.114.35.28; rebuilding descriptor (source: METHOD=INTERFACE).
>  Dec 05 21:18:42.000 [notice] Your IP address seems to have changed
>  to 142.4.217.95 (METHOD=GETHOSTNAME HOSTNAME=ca3.pulseservers.com 
> ).
>  Updating. Dec 05 21:18:42.000 [notice] Our IP Address has changed
>  from 167.114.35.28 to 142.4.217.95; rebuilding descriptor (source:
>  METHOD=GETHOSTNAME HOSTNAME=ca3.pulseservers.com 
> ). Dec 05
>  21:18:43.000 [notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is
>  reachable from the outside. Excellent. Publishing server
>  descriptor. Dec 05 21:38:37.000 [warn] Your server
>  (142.4.217.95:9030) has not managed to confirm that its DirPort is
>  reachable. Please check your firewalls, ports, address, /etc/hosts
>  file, etc. Dec 05 21:58:37.000 [warn] Your server
>  (142.4.217.95:9030) has not managed to confirm that its DirPort is
>  reachable. Please check your firewalls, ports, address, /etc/hosts
>  file, etc.
> I've gotten this far, not being much good at networking I can't tell
> where the problem lies.. do I need to forward something?
> 

Tor is receiving two different IP addresses using two different methods of 
working out your VPS IP address:
* gethostname() on ca3.pulseservers.com  returns 
142.4.217.95
* an OS-specific interface address system call returns 167.114.35.28

Please find out from your admin which IPv4 address you should use, and specify 
it using the "Address" option in your torrc.
(Or, alternately, make a connection to 
http://www.myipaddress.com/show-my-ip-address/ 
 or similar from the VPS, and 
look at the address it returns.)

> On 7 Dec 2015, at 03:15, Kurt Besig  wrote:
> 
> The VPS isn't allowing Ports 9001 and 9030
> Should I investigate further getting my iptables up and running or
> just contact the admin and have them allow the ports?


Once you know the correct IPv4 address, try launching Tor again, and give it 20 
minutes to check reachability.
If it still complains that it can't reach your ORPort or DirPort, then ask your 
admin if they need to open ports to a VPS.
(From your previous posts, it looks like the ports are not being blocked on the 
VPS OS itself.)

Tim

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[Damian Johnson]

>> Doesn't Arm look for 9051?
>
> By default, but it can be any port you edit into the rc.

Apologies for the rudimentary question but did you try 'arm
--interface 9051'? I assume by 'edit into the rc' that you've changed
the default via the armrc but if I was in your shoes I'd give the
interface argument a quick try. Also, you can try running 'arm
--debug' to possibly get a little more information.

Cheers! -Damian
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[Damian Johnson]

>>> Doesn't Arm look for 9051?
>>
>> By default, but it can be any port you edit into the rc.
>
> Apologies for the rudimentary question but did you try 'arm
> --interface 9051'? I assume by 'edit into the rc' that you've changed
> the default via the armrc but if I was in your shoes I'd give the
> interface argument a quick try. Also, you can try running 'arm
> --debug' to possibly get a little more information.
>
> Cheers! -Damian

Baka, typo - meant 'arm --interface 9052' since you're changing away
from the default.
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

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On 12/3/2015 7:04 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote:
> 
>> On 3 Dec 2015, at 09:44, Kurt Besig > > wrote:
>> 
>> After setting up Tor and tor-arm on the VPS I'm not able to
>> connect with this error: unable to reconnect (connection refused.
>> Is the ControlPort Enabled?) I've edited ~/home/.arm/torrc and
>> /etc/tor/torrc un-commenting the ControlPort 9052 and all the
>> other typical ports, etc..
> 
> I don't have enough information to be sure what's going on:
> 
> What control port is tor actually connected to? (Try "lsof -p
> " or "netstat")
> 
> Can "telnet" or "nc" connect to the port?
> 
> Does your VPS provider block connections from localhost to
> localhost by default? (This is an unusual config, that may be why
> the advice you received didn't help.)
> 
> What else have your tried?
> 
>> Obviously I'm not able to forward or enable ports on the VPS, so
>> do I need to ask the admin to make some changes?
> 
> Possibly. Some VPSs let you modify the firewall settings yourself.
> 
> Tim
> 
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Thank you Tim for an intelligent response, I'll look into your
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[fatal]

>>> I use debian_tor as my tor group, but I don't think that's the
>>> issue.

I use Debian for my VPS and adding the normal system user to debian_tor
group works for me

usermod -a -G debian-tor [user]
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[Tim Wilson-Brown - teor]

> On 3 Dec 2015, at 09:44, Kurt Besig  wrote:
> 
> After setting up Tor and tor-arm on the VPS I'm not able to connect
> with this error: unable to reconnect (connection refused. Is the
> ControlPort Enabled?)
> I've edited ~/home/.arm/torrc and /etc/tor/torrc un-commenting the
> ControlPort 9052 and all the other typical ports, etc..


I don't have enough information to be sure what's going on:

What control port is tor actually connected to? (Try "lsof -p " or 
"netstat")

Can "telnet" or "nc" connect to the port?

Does your VPS provider block connections from localhost to localhost by default?
(This is an unusual config, that may be why the advice you received didn't 
help.)

What else have your tried?

> Obviously I'm
> not able to forward or enable ports on the VPS, so do I need to ask
> the admin to make some changes?

Possibly. Some VPSs let you modify the firewall settings yourself.

Tim

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[I]

Doesn't Arm look for 9051?

Robert


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[Michael McConville]

Kurt Besig wrote:
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> On 12/2/2015 3:06 PM, Michael McConville wrote:
> > Kurt Besig wrote:
> >> I just set up a VPS on PulseServers as I noticed quite a few
> >> running relays had mostly good things to say about the service.
> >> So Far the people operating the servers seem very cooperative and
> >> responsive. Anyway I've been running a middle relay for 1.5 years
> >> and know the "ropes" pretty well, however a VPS is new to me. 
> >> After setting up Tor and tor-arm on the VPS I'm not able to
> >> connect with this error: unable to reconnect (connection refused.
> >> Is the ControlPort Enabled?) I've edited ~/home/.arm/torrc and
> >> /etc/tor/torrc un-commenting the ControlPort 9052 and all the
> >> other typical ports, etc.. Obviously I'm not able to forward or
> >> enable ports on the VPS, so do I need to ask the admin to make
> >> some changes?
> > 
> > The arm process needs to be either root's or _tor's (assuming that
> > the tor process uses the _tor user). It's better not to use root,
> > as it's unsafe. So, this will likely work:
> > 
> >> sudo -u _tor arm
> > 
> I use debian_tor as my tor group, but I don't think that's the issue.

Did you try it (sudo -u debian_tor arm)? Worth a shot.
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On 12/2/2015 7:09 PM, Michael McConville wrote:
> Kurt Besig wrote:
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>> On 12/2/2015 3:06 PM, Michael McConville wrote:
>>> Kurt Besig wrote:
 I just set up a VPS on PulseServers as I noticed quite a few 
 running relays had mostly good things to say about the
 service. So Far the people operating the servers seem very
 cooperative and responsive. Anyway I've been running a middle
 relay for 1.5 years and know the "ropes" pretty well, however
 a VPS is new to me. After setting up Tor and tor-arm on the
 VPS I'm not able to connect with this error:  I've edited
 ~/home/.arm/torrc and /etc/tor/torrc un-commenting the
 ControlPort 9052 and all the other typical ports, etc..
 Obviously I'm not able to forward or enable ports on the VPS,
 so do I need to ask the admin to make some changes?
>>> 
>>> The arm process needs to be either root's or _tor's (assuming
>>> that the tor process uses the _tor user). It's better not to
>>> use root, as it's unsafe. So, this will likely work:
>>> 
 sudo -u _tor arm
>>> 
>> I use debian_tor as my tor group, but I don't think that's the
>> issue.
> 
> Did you try it (sudo -u debian_tor arm)? Worth a shot. 
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That's the cmd that leads to: unable to reconnect (connection refused.
 Is the ControlPort Enabled?) in tor-arm
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[Michael McConville]

Kurt Besig wrote:
> I just set up a VPS on PulseServers as I noticed quite a few running
> relays had mostly good things to say about the service. So Far the
> people operating the servers seem very cooperative and responsive.
> Anyway I've been running a middle relay for 1.5 years and know the
> "ropes" pretty well, however a VPS is new to me.
> After setting up Tor and tor-arm on the VPS I'm not able to connect
> with this error: unable to reconnect (connection refused. Is the
> ControlPort Enabled?)
> I've edited ~/home/.arm/torrc and /etc/tor/torrc un-commenting the
> ControlPort 9052 and all the other typical ports, etc.. Obviously I'm
> not able to forward or enable ports on the VPS, so do I need to ask
> the admin to make some changes?

The arm process needs to be either root's or _tor's (assuming that the
tor process uses the _tor user). It's better not to use root, as it's
unsafe. So, this will likely work:

> sudo -u _tor arm
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

[Kurt Besig]

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On 12/2/2015 3:06 PM, Michael McConville wrote:
> Kurt Besig wrote:
>> I just set up a VPS on PulseServers as I noticed quite a few
>> running relays had mostly good things to say about the service.
>> So Far the people operating the servers seem very cooperative and
>> responsive. Anyway I've been running a middle relay for 1.5 years
>> and know the "ropes" pretty well, however a VPS is new to me. 
>> After setting up Tor and tor-arm on the VPS I'm not able to
>> connect with this error: unable to reconnect (connection refused.
>> Is the ControlPort Enabled?) I've edited ~/home/.arm/torrc and
>> /etc/tor/torrc un-commenting the ControlPort 9052 and all the
>> other typical ports, etc.. Obviously I'm not able to forward or
>> enable ports on the VPS, so do I need to ask the admin to make
>> some changes?
> 
> The arm process needs to be either root's or _tor's (assuming that
> the tor process uses the _tor user). It's better not to use root,
> as it's unsafe. So, this will likely work:
> 
>> sudo -u _tor arm
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Connection Refused

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On 12/2/2015 4:54 PM, I wrote:
> Doesn't Arm look for 9051?
> 
> Robert
> 
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By default, but it can be any port you edit into the rc.
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/dedi paid with bitcoin for exit node anyone?

[fatal]

Hello,

>I find the infos currently available on TOR project wiki etc little bit
>rusty.

it's a wiki so feel free to help keeping it up to date (and cleaning it
up :) )

I for my part am updating the page every time I gain some new insights
(exit running for more than 6 weeks so there is some experience how the
provider reacts to abuse mails).

> flokinet.is advertises itself to be tor-friendly

I asked flokinet about exit nodes and what they consinder to be fair use
when running the VPS in romania (which are advertised as "traffic flat"):

"yes of course you can use our VPS to run a tor exit node. However we
recommend to use our dedicated server to do so for reaching higher
traffic amounts.

We consider 1-2TB traffic as fair, if you want more please order a
dedicated server."

thats what stopped me. the dedicated servers only have 10 tb traffic or
2 Tb if located in iceland.

On 08.11.2015 03:31, Andrew Deason wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 23:14:27 +
> Monoko Satou  wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for relatively cheap dedicated/VPS servers offers for
>> hosting more tor exit nodes that can be paid for using Bitcoin. Minimal
>> connection speed I'm interested in is 100mbit. I've seen some offers
>> here and there but maybe I'm missing something. I'd like fellow node
>> operators to share some insight on the topic.
> 
> flokinet.is advertises itself to be tor-friendly, accepts bitcoin, and
> claims that you can signup without providing any detailed contact info.
> I didn't pay with bitcoin and I didn't try to hide my identity, but the
> options appear to be there.
> 
> The exit node 'nibbana' (025B66CEBC070FCB0519D206CF0CF4965C20C96E) is
> hosted there. Don't assume that node's bandwidth is the max that they
> can provide; iirc it's one of their lower-end VPS options and I haven't
> spent time optimizing or anything (and it's new). Their VPSes are
> supposed to have 100mbps and the dedicated boxes are listed as 1gbps.
> 
> My experience has been fine so far with them.
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/dedi paid with bitcoin for exit node anyone?

[Billy Humphreys]

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I personally use ZappieHost - contact them, use a promo code to get it
down to $2.50 a month. Ask them to set reverse DNS, inform them you're
making a Tor relay and to forward on abuse emails, and I get ~2MB/s with
them. The bandwidth is 100GB/month, but it's $1 extra a month for an
extra 100GB, so maybe add 900GB more storage if you want.
Regards,
Billy

On 07/11/2015 23:14, Monoko Satou wrote:
> Hi thar,
>
> I'm looking for relatively cheap dedicated/VPS servers offers for
> hosting more tor exit nodes that can be paid for using Bitcoin. Minimal
> connection speed I'm interested in is 100mbit. I've seen some offers
> here and there but maybe I'm missing something. I'd like fellow node
> operators to share some insight on the topic.
>
> I find the infos currently available on TOR project wiki etc little bit
> rusty. It'd be ideal to compile an article on the topic, if people can
> share their experiences I'd like to donate my time for this purpose that
> methinks other will find helpful if one wants to host a tor relay pretty
> much anonymously.
>
> I for one can share a positive opinion on hosting with "Baltic Servers",
> an LT based company. I'm running 2 exits and 2 relays there for 31 days
> at the moment without many hassle (you can find 'em by looking for
> 'netdive' on torstatus.blutmagie.de or on Atlas). Current average net
> troughoutput  is rx/tx 274.56 Mbit/s  / 265.90 Mbit/s and the abuse
> e-mails are being forwarded.
>
> Cheers,
> -- Netdiver
>
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS/dedi paid with bitcoin for exit node anyone?

[Andrew Deason]

On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 23:14:27 +
Monoko Satou  wrote:

> I'm looking for relatively cheap dedicated/VPS servers offers for
> hosting more tor exit nodes that can be paid for using Bitcoin. Minimal
> connection speed I'm interested in is 100mbit. I've seen some offers
> here and there but maybe I'm missing something. I'd like fellow node
> operators to share some insight on the topic.

flokinet.is advertises itself to be tor-friendly, accepts bitcoin, and
claims that you can signup without providing any detailed contact info.
I didn't pay with bitcoin and I didn't try to hide my identity, but the
options appear to be there.

The exit node 'nibbana' (025B66CEBC070FCB0519D206CF0CF4965C20C96E) is
hosted there. Don't assume that node's bandwidth is the max that they
can provide; iirc it's one of their lower-end VPS options and I haven't
spent time optimizing or anything (and it's new). Their VPSes are
supposed to have 100mbps and the dedicated boxes are listed as 1gbps.

My experience has been fine so far with them.

-- 
Andrew Deason
adea...@dson.org

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS in China

[Philipp Winter]

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:18:48PM -0800, I wrote:
 Does anyone have an idea what might be done with a VPS in China?

In most networks in China, it will be difficult to set up a relay.
Relays must be able to talk to each other and upload their descriptors
to directory authorities.  That does not work very well if most of these
are blocked.

Cheers,
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[I]

Philipp,

Do you mean that installing Tor may be possible but that Tor won't be able to 
communicate from China to the rest of Tor outside China?  

If that is so is there any way to help censored users using a VPS there?

It seems that the censors can't watch everything the VPS is doing and it is 
possible to run and control programmes remotely so

Robert


 -Original Message-
 From: p...@nymity.ch
 Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:49:36 +0200
 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] VPS in China
 
 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:18:48PM -0800, I wrote:
 Does anyone have an idea what might be done with a VPS in China?
 
 In most networks in China, it will be difficult to set up a relay.
 Relays must be able to talk to each other and upload their descriptors
 to directory authorities.  That does not work very well if most of these
 are blocked.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS in China

[Elrippo]

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Hy guys,

I am not completely confirm with a TOR instance running as a bridge on a VPS in 
China.
Maybe you could advise how the bridge protocol is able to connect to a TOR 
relay outside of the great wall.
I would setup a bridge in China if it can communicate properly.

Secondly, I would suggest using a VPN on a VPS in China as a bridge to get 
outside in the real world.
We could even tunnel this to a second VPN that connects to TOR to circumvent 
the burning of the first VPN.

Let me know your thoughts,
elrippo

On 26. September 2014 11:08:40 MESZ, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:
Philipp,

Do you mean that installing Tor may be possible but that Tor won't be
able to communicate from China to the rest of Tor outside China?

If that is so is there any way to help censored users using a VPS
there?

It seems that the censors can't watch everything the VPS is doing and
it is possible to run and control programmes remotely so

Robert


 -Original Message-
 From: p...@nymity.ch
 Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:49:36 +0200
 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
 Subject: Re: [tor-relays] VPS in China

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:18:48PM -0800, I wrote:
 Does anyone have an idea what might be done with a VPS in China?

 In most networks in China, it will be difficult to set up a relay.
 Relays must be able to talk to each other and upload their
descriptors
 to directory authorities.  That does not work very well if most of
these
 are blocked.

 Cheers,
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[Sanjeev Gupta]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:19 PM, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:

 The meaning of 'can't have Tor' in their eyes is any form of Tor at all
 absolutely. They don't want to think about it whatsoever.
 Spineless.


Surely I should not be asking the VPS operators to have the courage of my
convictions.  They have rights, including the right to not run their their
business the way I want.

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[I]

 Dear exit node operators,
 
 Could you please recommend vps providers allowing to run tor exit nodes?
 
 I checked many vps operators but most of them allow relays but not exit
 nodes according to AUP or ToS.

I can only say I have exits running on VPSs which either had no bar to exits 
originally and changed, or had but let me through anyway. 
One accepted a very plain statement of it being a Tor exit and even helped sort 
out numerous issues then, after I hired eight more annually, just stopped them. 
If you can face that possibility it does seem that the reduced exit policy 
stops the DCMA problems which only leaves the highjacking of them to harass 
others to draw attention to you. 
There's not much profit and they won't wasted time.

Have a go.


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[Roman Mamedov]

On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 05:35:16 -0700 (PDT)
Contra Band contra0b...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear exit node operators,
 
 Could you please recommend vps providers allowing to run tor exit nodes? 
 
 I checked many vps operators but most of them allow relays but not exit nodes 
 according to AUP or ToS.

1) https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs

2) by looking to host an Exit node on a VPS as opposed to a dedicated server,
you likely expect to pay much less to the provider than you would for a
dedicated server. However the amount of trouble that an Exit node is going to
bring to the provider stays exactly the same, and it's not even close to being
justified by the profit they gather from a comparatively insignificant amount
which you pay for that VPS.

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[Contra Band]

I can only say I have exits running on VPSs which either had no bar to exits 
originally and changed, or had but let me through anyway. 
One accepted a very plain statement of it being a Tor exit and even helped 
sort out numerous issues then, after I hired eight more annually, just 
stopped them. If you can face that possibility it does seem that the reduced 
exit policy stops the DCMA problems which only leaves the highjacking of them 
to harass others to draw attention to you. 
There's not much profit and they won't wasted time.

Have a go.

So can you post some provider names?
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[Contra Band]

I have gone through the GoodBadISPs but I'm looking for latest input from exit 
operators.

Selected vps because don't want to see provider bans my account sometime later 
when running an exit node on a dedicated server. 


But I'm ok if can get a dedicated server for a decent price. All I need is exit 
node friendly provider names. May be can limit abuse complains using reduced 
exit policy.

Please post your experience.
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[Moritz Bartl]

On 06/03/2014 02:35 PM, Contra Band wrote:
 Could you please recommend vps providers allowing to run tor exit nodes? 

Unfortunately, there is no such list. Also, you should avoid
concentrating exit relays at certain providers for reasons of diversity.

A good source for cheap VPS offers is lowendbox.com. What you can do is
collect 50 or so sales@ email addresses of various providers, and email
each of them to ask if they are ok with Tor exits, that you will quickly
deal with all abuse mails, etc. Then, add your results to the
GoodBadISPs page.

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[I]

 So can you post some provider names?

Comsitec.de is one which is ok with exits but I have a lot of trouble getting 
their attention when it stops.
It is in Germany which is much better than being in USA because the mentality 
is better.
Two I have which now say exits are not accepted are Lunanode and Bluevm. One 
which was expensive but good is DrServer/AbusiveCores. The guy set up Tor when 
I had a problem with Linux!.

Since some have said yes to exits when I paid but a week later 'introduced a 
new policy' I wonder if it is worth being open. If you know what can be done 
with fifteen VPSs for the next nine months which can't have Tor please tell me.

Lowendbox.com is good for scavenging addresses and sudden bargains but it may 
be better in the long run to pay a little more and get more cooperation. 

It may be more useful to Tor at the moment to provide bridges and for that, I 
believe, the very cheapest VPSs would do the job e.g. $AUD15/year.

Robert

 So can you post some provider names?


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[Mike Patton]

I have an exit with exigent here in Australia. They advised by email that they 
don't have an issue with Tor.

M.

On 4 Jun 2014 08:56, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:

  So can you post some provider names? 

 Comsitec.de is one which is ok with exits but I have a lot of trouble getting 
 their attention when it stops. 
 It is in Germany which is much better than being in USA because the mentality 
 is better. 
 Two I have which now say exits are not accepted are Lunanode and Bluevm. One 
 which was expensive but good is DrServer/AbusiveCores. The guy set up Tor 
 when I had a problem with Linux!. 

 Since some have said yes to exits when I paid but a week later 'introduced a 
 new policy' I wonder if it is worth being open. If you know what can be done 
 with fifteen VPSs for the next nine months which can't have Tor please tell 
 me. 

 Lowendbox.com is good for scavenging addresses and sudden bargains but it may 
 be better in the long run to pay a little more and get more cooperation. 

 It may be more useful to Tor at the moment to provide bridges and for that, I 
 believe, the very cheapest VPSs would do the job e.g. $AUD15/year. 

 Robert 

  So can you post some provider names? 


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS for tor exit nodes

[Spencer Neitzke]

I've used Linode and they are pretty good too. They just require you to
deal with all the DMCA's in a timely manner, as well as block BitTorrent
after repeated offenses.


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:56 PM, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:

  So can you post some provider names?

 Comsitec.de is one which is ok with exits but I have a lot of trouble
 getting their attention when it stops.
 It is in Germany which is much better than being in USA because the
 mentality is better.
 Two I have which now say exits are not accepted are Lunanode and Bluevm.
 One which was expensive but good is DrServer/AbusiveCores. The guy set up
 Tor when I had a problem with Linux!.

 Since some have said yes to exits when I paid but a week later 'introduced
 a new policy' I wonder if it is worth being open. If you know what can be
 done with fifteen VPSs for the next nine months which can't have Tor please
 tell me.

 Lowendbox.com is good for scavenging addresses and sudden bargains but it
 may be better in the long run to pay a little more and get more cooperation.

 It may be more useful to Tor at the moment to provide bridges and for
 that, I believe, the very cheapest VPSs would do the job e.g. $AUD15/year.

 Robert

  So can you post some provider names?


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS suspended for many SSH connections

[Roman Mamedov]

On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 23:29:08 -0800
I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:

 What can I do about this?
 The VPS business keeps saying this is reason to suspend?
 
 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:04 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 24676 conntrack 
 sessions
 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:09 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 24648 conntrack 
 sessions
 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:14 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 23119 conntrack 
 sessions
 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:19 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 20123 conntrack 
 sessions
 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 20:48:24 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 311 SSH 
 connections
 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 20:48:25 -0400 SUSPENDING VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25); it has 
 311 SSH connections

Hello,

Were you running an exit node there, with port 22 accepted in the exit policy?
If so, someone might have been trying to brute-force SSH passwords via your
exit node.

If not, then still these might have been Tor connections, but to other relays,
as some of them have their ORPort set to 22. However I don't know if it's
normal that you would have 311 connections to them, after all they are in a
tiny minority (only 20 relays or so):
http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/index.php?SR=ORPortSO=Asc

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS ports impassable

[I]

nano,

That fixed it thanks nano.  I've learned another piece of the Tor puzzle.

Robert

 
 [WARNING - if you don't want to see another Tor relay get going stop
 reading now.]
 
 After installing Tor on a VPS running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS it reports
 
 [warn] Your server (173.208.211.179:9030) has not managed to confirm
 that its DirPort is reachable. Please check your firewalls, ports,
 address,...
 
 
 Hi, Robert.
 
 I would try setting your VPS IP as the Address value in torrc.


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS ports impassable

[I]

Sebastian,

That's the spirit!

To me that feels like the right thinking.

In etc/hostname there is just ubuntu. In the details for the VPS the hostname 
is VM#16 which I can't change there.
Therefore what would be correct to put in the etc/hostname file?

Is it useful to know that the ip address I PuTTY into is 38.68.15.116 but the 
one in Tor's log with blocked ports is  173.208.211.179?  They traceroute to 
different places but I can log in through either.

Robert


 
 Hey,
 
 usually this problem is due to a wrong set fqdn hostname and hosts file.
 
 In /etc/hostname set the hostname: relay.example.com
 and run the command hostname relay.example.com
 
 In /etc/hosts change the current hostname
   127.0.0.1 current.example.com
 to:
   127.0.0.1 relay.example.com
 
 Though this is obvious run end edit with sudo and replace the example
 with the real hostname.
 
 Sebastian
 
 Am 18.01.2014 11:22, schrieb I:
 Hej,
 
 [WARNING - if you don't want to see another Tor relay get going stop
 reading now.]
 
 After installing Tor on a VPS running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS it reports
 
 [warn] Your server (173.208.211.179:9030) has not managed to confirm
 that its DirPort is reachable. Please check your firewalls, ports,
 address,...
 
 The VPS operator is trying his best but says the ports are open and is
 asking others.
 
 In the meantime does anyone have anything to offer?
 
 Robert
 
 
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS ports impassable

[Sebastian Bögl]

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Hi Robert
You should set your Address in /etc/tor/torrc to 38.68.15.116.
Your configured DirPort and OrPort seems to work for me.

Your hostname should be set in a nameserver though your current one
(116-15-68-38-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net) is great.

Sebastian

 Sebastian,
 
 That's the spirit!
 
 To me that feels like the right thinking.
 
 In etc/hostname there is just ubuntu. In the details for the VPS the hostname 
 is VM#16 which I can't change there.
 Therefore what would be correct to put in the etc/hostname file?
 
 Is it useful to know that the ip address I PuTTY into is 38.68.15.116 but the 
 one in Tor's log with blocked ports is  173.208.211.179?  They traceroute to 
 different places but I can log in through either.
 
 Robert
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS ports impassable

[nano]

On 18/01/2014 9:22 PM, I wrote:

Hej,

[WARNING - if you don't want to see another Tor relay get going stop reading 
now.]

After installing Tor on a VPS running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS it reports

[warn] Your server (173.208.211.179:9030) has not managed to confirm that its 
DirPort is reachable. Please check your firewalls, ports, address,...

The VPS operator is trying his best but says the ports are open and is asking 
others.

In the meantime does anyone have anything to offer?

Robert


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Hi, Robert.

I would try setting your VPS IP as the Address value in torrc.

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS ports closed

[Thomas Hand]

This none of sense make.


On 7 January 2014 07:27, francisco fabiano franciscolondo...@gmail.comwrote:

 THIS IS A FAKE TOR, GOT SURELY NOW


 On 7 January 2014 02:19, Matthew Harrold tormailingl...@marrold.co.ukwrote:


 On 7 Jan 2014 01:56, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:
 
  Is there a way to open ports for Tor as an VPS account holder?
 
  Robert
 
 

 That would depend on the host, OS and configuration. Please could you
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS ports closed

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On 7 Jan 2014 01:56, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:

 Is there a way to open ports for Tor as an VPS account holder?

 Robert



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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[mick]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:40:52 -0800
I beatthebasta...@inbox.com allegedly wrote:

 Mick,
 
 Is Serverstack.nl particularly pro-tor exit nodes? 
 By the front page it would seem so.
 
 Robert

Heh! I hadn't seen that before. (Though take a look at serverstack.com
for a more, erm, normally corporate front page).

Honestly, I do not know serverstack's position. I rent that particular
VPS from digitalocean, it just happens to be in Amsterdam on AS46652.
digitalocean's own position appears to be supportive of non-exit
relays only. 

Mick 
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

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Eduard:
 I rented a VPS with 256mb ram and unmetered bandwidth. Ubuntu
 12.04. Can someone please tell me how to configure it as a non-exit
 relay for Tor? Acess via PuTTy.

256MB RAM and unmetered bandwidth is going to get you into trouble
very quickly.  That's not enough RAM.

If you're on a 10Mbps port and set your limits to about 5Mbps
RelayBandwidthRate, you're going to need more than 256MB - probably
more like 768MB and a cron job to restart Tor if it chews up all RAM
and gets itself killed.

(Restarting Tor is something you want to avoid, BTW, but I understand
the cost of RAM resources.)

Best,
- -Gordon M.


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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[I]

Mick,

Is Serverstack.nl particularly pro-tor exit nodes? 
By the front page it would seem so.

Robert


 
 I run tor perfectly happily on a VPS with 512MB of RAM. That node
 is on a Gig backbone, advertises 2.1 MB/s (2100 KB) and shovels data at
 anywhere between 24 and 32 Mbit/s all day every day for a monthly
 total of anywhere from 9.5 to 10.5 TiB per month.
 
 See
 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/C332113DF99E367E4190424CE825057D91337ADD
 
 last rebooted when I upgraded to Tor 0.2.4.17-rc about three weeks
 ago.
 
 The limiting factor on a pi is not just memory. It is CPU.
 
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[Luis G.F]

Hi Eduard :

I have a VPS too with a tor relay node. I can send you my torrc in
private if you are interested, but the conf is really easy.


El 19/10/13 14:51, Eduard escribió:
 I rented a VPS with 256mb ram and unmetered bandwidth. Ubuntu
 12.04. Can someone please tell me how to configure it as a non-exit
 relay for Tor? Acess via PuTTy.
 
 Cheers, Edward
 
 
 Sent from my Orange Smartphone
 
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS Hardware Specification Advice

[torrelay]

Many thanks for your reply  really useful to know that I can find
better value for my money which, in turn, equals a larger number of tor
relays that I can afford to run.

My plan was to start out with a budget of approximately 20 Euros and if
all goes well increase to around 50 Euros per month so plenty of scope
for many tor relays at these prices.

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:40:11 +0200, Tor Pids torp...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i just saw this post on the web archive and felt I can contribute
 something here so I finally registered. Maybe this reply will not be
 correctly recognized to the thread, sorry.
 
 The VPS specs you posted should be more than enough - but the price
 is too expensive!
 
 I currently run about 20 Tor relays on cheap VPS all around the
 world: http://globe.rndm.de/#/search/query=torpids
 
 Basically I just care for the bandwidth/included traffic when
 choosing a VPS. 256MB RAM is enough, disk space doesn't matter at all.
 Tor doesn't scale that well with CPU cores so 1 core is ok. For only 1
 or 2 of my VPS the CPU is the bottleneck (at about 20-30MBit/s), but
 most are fast enough. Most cheap VPS are based on the OpenVZ
 virtualization which limits you to their old kernel and sometimes they
 limit the number of tcp connections (see cat
 /proc/user_beancounters). KVM or Xen virtualisation is better because
 you have more control on the VM. Most VPS providers add up the
 incoming and outgoing bandwidth, meaning that you might be able to
 just send about 500GB with your 1TB plan.
 
 For example with a VPS from www.jiffybox.de for 15€ per month it is
 possible to push more than 1TB PER DAY(!) (and not per month as with
 the 18€ plan you mentioned). OVH just released a server for £2,99 per
 month with unlimited 100MBit/s as well:
 https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml
 Other typical offers are like 10TB for 10$ or 20MBit/s unlimited for 3€.
 
 Good places to find cheap VPS deals:
 http://www.lowendbox.com/ and http://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers
 http://www.wjunction.com/46-vps
 http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104
 
 Best,
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[Roger Dingledine]

On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:46:50PM +0100, Tom McLoughlin wrote:
 I'm looking for a VPS to run a tor exit node on, any ideas?

Be sure to check out the wiki page:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
for what others have said in the past.

And if you have anything to add or fix, please do!

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[George Herndon]

i'm happy with digitalocean

George Herndon
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On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Tom McLoughlin t...@dropfuse.com wrote:

 I'm looking for a VPS to run a tor exit node on, any ideas?
 
 Regards,
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:54:20 -0400
George Herndon ghern...@eyeontech.com allegedly wrote:

 i'm happy with digitalocean
 
 George Herndon
 ghern...@eyeontech.com

And so am I - for a relay. DO are not very keen on exits. See
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/tor

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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[Tom McLoughlin]

I'm already a customer with them, I didn't know they allowed Tor.
Thanks ;)

On 03/08/2013 21:54, George Herndon wrote:
 i'm happy with digitalocean
 
 George Herndon ghern...@eyeontech.com
 
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 Postel's Law
 
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Tom McLoughlin t...@dropfuse.com 
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 I'm looking for a VPS to run a tor exit node on, any ideas?
 
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Re: [tor-relays] VPS

[Tom McLoughlin]

Thanks, I'll deploy a droplet for tor now ;)

On 03/08/2013 22:15, mick wrote:
 On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:54:20 -0400 George Herndon
 ghern...@eyeontech.com allegedly wrote:
 
 i'm happy with digitalocean
 
 George Herndon ghern...@eyeontech.com
 
 And so am I - for a relay. DO are not very keen on exits. See 
 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/tor
 
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