Re: [tor-talk] >600 Tor relays without ContactInfo and similar properties

2020-08-21 Thread David Fifield
The point nusenu is making is not that these relays should have contact
info; it's that they all have similar properties (among which is a lack
of contact info) that indicate that they are being run by the same
person.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 02:11:27PM +, bo0od wrote:
> Its stupid anyway to provide contact info for running relies, if Tor is an
> P2P protocol it would be funny to even think about it because thats mean
> like each user of Tor should provide his info.
> 
> Its not a big deal because solving malicious nodes and putting trust on DA
> wouldnt be through having contact info or not, This is protocol level to
> solve.
> 
> nusenu:
> > 
> > Since the Tor directory authorities are no longer removing such undeclared 
> > relay groups
> > and I feel bad about sitting on this list without doing anything with it
> > I'm posting it here for your information.
> > 
> > This is a set of over 600 Tor relays that got added since 2020-01-29  on a 
> > limited set of hosters.
> > They have some similarities in their sign-up pattern and properties.
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Re: [tor-talk] >600 Tor relays without ContactInfo and similar properties

2020-08-21 Thread bo0od
Its stupid anyway to provide contact info for running relies, if Tor is 
an P2P protocol it would be funny to even think about it because thats 
mean like each user of Tor should provide his info.


Its not a big deal because solving malicious nodes and putting trust on 
DA  wouldnt be through having contact info or not, This is protocol 
level to solve.


nusenu:


Since the Tor directory authorities are no longer removing such undeclared 
relay groups
and I feel bad about sitting on this list without doing anything with it
I'm posting it here for your information.

This is a set of over 600 Tor relays that got added since 2020-01-29  on a 
limited set of hosters.
They have some similarities in their sign-up pattern and properties.


Most of them are middle relays (non exit relays).

total guard probability: 3.6%
total middle probability: 10.1%

https://github.com/nusenu/tor-network-observations/blob/master/20200129-20200819_unknown_middle_relaygroup.txt

+---+--+
| as_name   |   relays |
+---+--+
| Microsoft Corporation |  254 |
| Linode, LLC   |   82 |
| UAB Cherry Servers|   75 |
| |   62 |
| Cogent Communications |   44 |
| Hetzner Online GmbH   |   38 |
| OVH SAS   |   26 |
| DigitalOcean, LLC |   11 |
| Online S.a.s. |9 |
| Enzu Inc  |7 |
+---+--+





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