[tor-talk] does it make sense to change channels from alpha to beta on MS-Windows 10 platform ?

[shirish शिरीष]

Dear all,

I was looking at How to install 64-bit Tor Browser on Windows 10 .

I went to https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en and
downloaded the alpha build which was released with 64-bit richness
there i.e. 7.5.a9

I then went into C:\Users\generation2\Desktop\Tor
Browser\Browser\defaults\pref\channel-prefs after closing down the
browser where I changed from alpha to beta channel.

Now does it make sense to do that change as I haven't seen beta
releases at least on
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

I even went to the github mirror to see if more than one branch was
active only to see that it just says master/head which probably are
updates to the alpha build.

I do know that tbb is a derivative of the mozilla Firefox product and
can be seen there are number of channels and releases that one can run
though

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/

I am somewhat confused as I couldn't find any info. about it either in
documentation or in the wiki as to how things happen.

https://www.torproject.org/docs/documentation.html.en

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/WikiStart

Any hint/guide/tip would be welcome.

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[tor-talk] unable to start tbb after a tor update on debian.

[shirish शिरीष]

Dear all,

I am using debian buster. I used to start tor from an alias

/home/shirish/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/start-tor-browser

I updated tbb as it was out of date and after update couldn't start it.

It seems that the path has been changed to -

/home/shirish/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/tor-browser_en-US/start-tor-browser.desktop

Trying to run that either as an alias or via console I get the following -

┌─[shirish@debian] -
[~/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/tor-browser_en-US] - [10018]
└─[$] ./start-tor-browser.desktop
Launching './Browser/start-tor-browser --detach'...
./Browser/execdesktop: line 14: ./Browser/start-tor-browser: No such
file or directory

Can somebody help in diatonising the problem and perhaps offer some solutions.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: buster/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (600, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500,
'stable-debug'), (1, 'experimental-debug'), (1, 'experimental'), (1,
'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.11.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8),
LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages tor depends on:
ii  adduser  3.115
ii  init-system-helpers  1.48
ii  libc62.24-12
ii  libevent-2.0-5   2.0.21-stable-3
ii  libseccomp2  2.3.1-2.1
ii  libssl1.11.1.0f-3
ii  libsystemd0  233-9
ii  lsb-base 9.20161125
ii  zlib1g   1:1.2.8.dfsg-5

Versions of packages tor recommends:
ii  logrotate3.11.0-0.1
ii  tor-geoipdb  0.3.0.9-1
ii  torsocks 2.2.0-1

Versions of packages tor suggests:
pn  apparmor-utils   
pn  mixmaster
ii  obfs4proxy   0.0.7-1+b2
ii  obfsproxy0.2.13-2
ii  socat1.7.3.1-2+b1
pn  tor-arm  
ii  torbrowser-launcher  0.2.7-2

-- no debconf information

Looking forward to the fix.


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Re: [tor-talk] using same usernames on same websites under tor and privacy -

[shirish शिरीष]

at bottom :-

On 15/08/2016, Jon Tullett  wrote:



>
> Interesting discussion, I'll look forward to hearing peoples' views.
>
> Allowing correlation between multiple sites based on the same identity
> likely will reduce privacy, I assume, though the extent of that impact
> might be debatable. It'd make the risk assessment and the opsec more
> complicated and more error-prone respectively, but assuming you can
> overcome that, the impact might be negligible. I'm curious to know how
> you'd assess the risk, under those circumstances.
>
> Personally I don't see much overlap between communities, so I tend to
> use different pseudonyms on different sites and forums, but there's
> also very little risk to me if they were to be associated.  But I can
> well imagine the opposite - if I had an established identity and
> reputation like the Grugq or Moxie or something, then I'd want to
> achieve, if not conformity, then at least known association between
> identities on multiple forums within the same community. And I'd
> definitely want to avoid impacting my privacy and anonymity. I would
> guess that achieving that might just be a question of abstracting the
> comms a bit. Use the same identity, but give it a separate email
> address and Tor connection, for example - that's a lot easier to
> manage now that we have separate circuits per browser tab, I imagine.
>
> Interesting topic, thanks!
>
> -J

A little backgrounder here so it makes more sense. As today is India's
Independence Day, I took the opportunity to share how people could get
on tor, see

 https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2016/08/15/the-road-to-tor/

Although the best would be to use Tails but for people who use a
regular distribution like Debian, it should help a bit.

I didn't actually know what advice I should give them and as can be
seen I just gave a one-liner to say people should have new identities.

Although I myself haven't had to make that choice as frankly I'm not
in a situation that I need to fear for my life where association could
make put your life in danger.

I do however, understand the importance that more people being on tor
would help, so it is a small step in that regard. I also do understand
the importance of bridges and relays but then the blog post became a
bit too long and would have been a classic case of information
overload.

I also did try the videos at
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTorProject/videos and especially
videos of Georg Koppen and Philipp Winter but didn't get them as the
accent threw me off :( .

I tried the youtube subs but they weren't any better as well but that
is probably a different thing altogether.

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[tor-talk] using same usernames on same websites under tor and privacy -

[shirish शिरीष]

Hi all,

Most sites more or less use https:// by default nowadays. However, it
has been suggested by quite a few people that you do not use the same
usernames when using tor.

While for new sites it certainly makes sense, for sites which you have
been using (like mail) and say forums or wherever reputation is
important, it makes sense to use the same identity.  Also in some
sites it is illegal to have more than one username from the same mail
address. So you have to make a new identity altogether which is
painstaking and takes time.

Could somebody comment as it relates to both privacy and identity at
the same time.
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Re: [tor-talk] Bittorrent starting to move entirely within anonymous overlay nets

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On 13/08/2016, grarpamp  wrote:
> Общество шифропанков
> http://vabu56j2ep2rwv3b.onion/
> BitTorrent трэкер.
> http://vabu56j2ep2rwv3b.onion/Tracker.html
> Это одна из его установок которую вы можете использовать в своих torrent
> файлах.
> http://xodv6rg4bvpfpcs7.onion:6969/announce
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any chance of an english translation somewhere or would have to use
google translate ?
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Re: [tor-talk] "Your Firefox is out of date"

[shirish शिरीष]

at bottom :-

On 12/08/2016, Georg Koppen  wrote:



>
> Ugh. There should be no need to redownload 6.0.3 again. Although you'd
> need to reinstall the languague pack you'd used at least. So, all in all
> it might be the easiest to use a fresh 6.0.3, alas. I am sorry about that.
>
> Georg
>
>

Hi Georg,

I should have been more clear. What has happened is while I  can see
the addons in Tools > Addons , near the URL bar where there are icons,
that space doesn't have much.  I have the URI locator, search-engine
and then the drop-down menu thing which has things like Cut, Copy,
Paste.

Is there a way to take backup of all the extensions (and data in
extensions) and passwords and bookmarks ?

This is where my tor browser lies

─[$] alias tor

tor=/home/shirish/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/tor-browser_en-US/start-tor-browser

I would like to have minimum fuss happening. I'm ok with downloading
the browser again.

I am using the english languagepack so that shouldn't be any different, right .

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Re: [tor-talk] Username Generator programs

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On 12/08/2016, ban...@openmailbox.org  wrote:
> Thanks everyone who participated.
>
> Ah pwgen is just what The Doctor ordered :D It fits the bill: random and
> pronounceable output, included in Debian, length and what it includes
> (numbers, symbols, capitals) is customizable.
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Hi,

I use apg which does/has the same goal and is in debian.

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Re: [tor-talk] "Your Firefox is out of date"

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at bottom :-

On 12/08/2016, Georg Koppen <g...@torproject.org> wrote:
> shirish शिरीष:
>> at bottom :-
>>
>> On 11/08/2016, Georg Koppen <g...@torproject.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, this is bug 19890 and it should be fixed on Mozilla's side right
>>> now (I tested it a while ago): having a clean Tor Browser you won't get
>>> that warning anymore. To quote from the blog post update:
>>>
>>> """
>>> Update (August 11, 10:04 UTC): Starting from a couple of hours ago Tor
>>> Browser users might see a notification box in their browser claiming
>>> that Firefox is too old providing a button to get a newer one. This is
>>> both due to a server-side code change on Mozilla's side and an oversight
>>> by us during the ESR45 transition. Clicking on the "Get Firefox" button
>>> is save and leads the user to our Tor Browser download page. Needless to
>>> say, this whole behavior is highly confusing and we are apologizing for
>>> it. We are working on a fix as past as possible and hope to get Mozilla
>>> to exempt Tor Browser users from this feature while we are working on a
>>> new release. For technical details see our bug tracker.
>>> """
>>>
>>> We plan to release a new Tor Browser version shortly to address the
>>> issue from our side. As a workaround one can either install a new Tor
>>> Browser 6.0.3 version from our website or set
>>> `extensions.systemAddon.update.url` to `""` which should get rid of the
>>> out-of-date-extension the next time an extension update check gets
>>> performed. Again, we are sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>
>>> Georg
>>>
>>
>> Dear Georg,
>>
>> I tried and did as shared above, i.e. going ot about:config and
>> changing the value from the URL. I even tried updating the addons in
>> order to make the "Your Firefox is out of date" disappear but no
>> change.
>
> Yes, sorry, this was not a solution for immediate remedy. It should have
> solved the problem during the next ping for extension updates. Depending
> on when the last ping happened this can take up to 24 hours.
>
>> I looked at the bug-report and tried the second option shared therein -
>>
>> A solution --
>> Go to about:config/extensions.bootstrappedAddon
>> Reset the string Value to empty Value {}
>> Restart Tor browser.
>> The warning will not appear again.
>>
>> That worked.
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/4x8wwk/solution_for_the_false_warning_your_firefox_is/
>
> Thanks, and glad it helped in your case.
>
> Georg
>
>
>
>

Georg,

It did but it also took away all my extensions :( . I didn't backup
the extensions.bootstrappedAddon

Any idea what to do now other than downloading 6.0.3 and doing
everything from scratch :(

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[tor-talk] Videos and subtitles of talks on tor and more info. at /var/log/tor

[shirish शिरीष]

Hi all,
Newbie to tor. Using it for strictly educational purposes for self as
well as to share with others who might be interested in it.

The first thing I want to ask is about the various videos about tor
and if there are english subtitles available for them ?

Specifically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCWeVYCcKXw - I tried to
search in http://tedxtalks.ted.com/browse/talks-by-topic/technology
but came up empty.

and

https://media.torproject.org/video/2009-using-a-bridge-relay-to-access-tor.ogv
( at https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges.html.en)

I haven't downloaded either because didn't see either an .srt or any
mention of subtitles in either of the video description

I used the debian tor package and took sometime to understand where it
starts from (the browser)

$ alias tor
alias 
tor='/home/shirish/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/tor-browser_en-US/start-tor-browser'

Alternatively, if I launch torbrowser-launcher checks the gpg keys of
Erinn Clark I get the following :-

$ torbrowser-launcher
Tor Browser Launcher
By Micah Lee, licensed under GPLv3
version 0.1.4
https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher
Initializing Tor Browser Launcher
Successfully loaded mirrors from /usr/share/torbrowser-launcher/mirrors.txt
Warning: can't load mirrors from /home/shirish/.config/torbrowser/mirrors.txt
Importing keys
gpg: key 63FEE659: Erinn Clark er...@torproject.org not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
Starting launcher dialog
LATEST VERSION 3.6.5
Checked for update within 24 hours, skipping
Latest version of TBB is installed, launching

As haven't got a mirrors.txt and also don't know a good resource,
there is just a settings file therein.

~/.config/torbrowser$ ls
settings

Is mirrors.txt a necessity? If yes, then looking for documentation about it.

Lastly, it seems the default logging of tor browser sessions is only
at WARN. Is there a way to introduce/have more idea in the log ?

/var/log/tor# head log
log   log.1 log.2.gz  log.3.gz  log.4.gz  log.5.gz
root@debian:/var/log/tor# head log
Sep 17 05:29:17.000 [notice] Tor 0.2.4.23 (git-05b81fcd2a655c5a)
opening new log file.
Sep 17 07:05:56.000 [warn] Failed to find node for hop 0 of our path.
Discarding this circuit.
Sep 17 07:11:06.000 [warn] Failed to find node for hop 0 of our path.
Discarding this circuit.
Sep 17 07:12:39.000 [warn] Failed to find node for hop 0 of our path.
Discarding this circuit.
Sep 17 07:12:49.000 [warn] Failed to find node for hop 0 of our path.
Discarding this circuit.
Sep 17 07:12:56.000 [warn] Failed to find node for hop 0 of our path.
Discarding this circuit.


As has been shared in the manpages or somewhere else, it is possible
to change the verboseness but dunno how .

Looking forward to know more.
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