Re: [tor-talk] Research - Tor and the shaping of resistance technologies

[COLLIER Ben]

Hello Joe,


Thanks! I really appreciate the advice and I'll definitely send an email to 
those lists as well.


I absolutely hope to interview people from the other side of the fence as part 
of my research, along with plenty of trawling through policy papers and 
legislation. Although my main interest is in the perspectives of people 
developing technologies to resist surveillance, I agree that the research would 
indeed benefit from some idea of state perspectives - especially given the 
developments likely to come in the new year (the IP bill in the UK to mention 
just one). I do think that the views and dev processes of those involved in 
creating and using surveillance technologies are likely to be very different, 
especially in contrast with Tor's open source model.


I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on this if you'd be free for a 
chat sometime? If not, thanks again for the advice!


Ben


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Joe Btfsplk 
> wrote:
 Hello Ben,
We've heard this 
tor-talk@lists.torproject.org is not 
frequented as much as it used to be by Tor developers & organizational members.
You might want to check these lists, depending on which area you want to ask 
questions in a specific area of Tor or Tor network.

https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-onions  and
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-project
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

Don't know how many Tor organization members you'll find, but you may take a 
look at https://tor.stackexchange.com/.
Can't hurt to put out the word there.

I'm interested instead in exploring the power relationships, social and 
technological factors which determine how actions and communities are labelled 
criminal, and include harms caused by states and other powerful actors which 
may not traditionally be considered as "crimes".

> From this perspective, I would like to explore how the values and 
> perspectives of people who develop software to resist surveillance and 
> promote anonymity online shape the technologies they work on, and whether 
> this expertise changes how they see these issues.
I assume you're going to interview people from both sides of the fence, or else 
you'll have fairly one sided research?
Law enforcement's / governments' views are much different than activists under 
a dictatorial regime.

Good luck.

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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Re: [tor-talk] Research - Tor and the shaping of resistance technologies

[Joe Btfsplk]

On 11/8/2016 2:45 PM, COLLIER Ben wrote:

Hello all,

Greetings from (currently freezing cold) Scotland. I'm a researcher at the University of 
Edinburgh studying antisurveillance technologies, software development and how these are 
shaped at different levels by ideas about crime and surveillance. I'd describe my work as 
criminological but with a strong critical dimension - my research isn't about 
"fighting crime" or developing cybersecurity policy.



  I have a background in (statistical) programming and I'm particularly 
interested in finding out how people see these issues playing out in practice 
in their work.

While I'd like to carry out more in-depth research in the new year, at this 
stage I'm interested in making sure I'm asking the right questions. As such, 
I'd be very grateful if anyone involved in Tor development, either as a core 
developer or as a volunteer, would be interested in having a chat, or if 
possible a short interview. Any discussions would be anonymous and carried out 
in accordance with the ethics policy of the University of Edinburgh, and you 
would be able to withdraw consent for participation at any time for any reason 
- or none at all.

I'll be contactable at this email address (listed in my signature) and on the 
IRC channels as JHistone - if you're interested (or just want to say hi or have 
a chat) please feel free to get in touch.

Best wishes,

Ben Collier

Doctoral Researcher
The University of Edinburgh

SCCJR profile: http://www.sccjr.ac.uk/about-us/people/ben-collier/
Edinburgh University profile: 
http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/research/students/viewstudent?ref=339
Twitter: @JohnnyHistone
Email: s1263...@sms.ed.ac.uk


Hello Ben,
We've heard this tor-talk@lists.torproject.org is not frequented as much 
as it used to be by Tor developers & organizational members.
You might want to check these lists, depending on which area you want to 
ask questions in a specific area of Tor or Tor network.


https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-onions  and
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-project
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

Don't know how many Tor organization members you'll find, but you may take a 
look at https://tor.stackexchange.com/.
Can't hurt to put out the word there.


I'm interested instead in exploring the power relationships, social and technological 
factors which determine how actions and communities are labelled criminal, and include 
harms caused by states and other powerful actors which may not traditionally be 
considered as "crimes".

>From this perspective, I would like to explore how the values and perspectives 
of people who develop software to resist surveillance and promote anonymity online 
shape the technologies they work on, and whether this expertise changes how they 
see these issues.

I assume you're going to interview people from both sides of the fence, or else 
you'll have fairly one sided research?
Law enforcement's / governments' views are much different than activists under 
a dictatorial regime.

Good luck.



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[tor-talk] Research - Tor and the shaping of resistance technologies

[COLLIER Ben]

Hello all,

Greetings from (currently freezing cold) Scotland. I'm a researcher at the 
University of Edinburgh studying antisurveillance technologies, software 
development and how these are shaped at different levels by ideas about crime 
and surveillance. I'd describe my work as criminological but with a strong 
critical dimension - my research isn't about "fighting crime" or developing 
cybersecurity policy. I'm interested instead in exploring the power 
relationships, social and technological factors which determine how actions and 
communities are labelled criminal, and include harms caused by states and other 
powerful actors which may not traditionally be considered as "crimes".

>From this perspective, I would like to explore how the values and perspectives 
>of people who develop software to resist surveillance and promote anonymity 
>online shape the technologies they work on, and whether this expertise changes 
>how they see these issues. I have a background in (statistical) programming 
>and I'm particularly interested in finding out how people see these issues 
>playing out in practice in their work.

While I'd like to carry out more in-depth research in the new year, at this 
stage I'm interested in making sure I'm asking the right questions. As such, 
I'd be very grateful if anyone involved in Tor development, either as a core 
developer or as a volunteer, would be interested in having a chat, or if 
possible a short interview. Any discussions would be anonymous and carried out 
in accordance with the ethics policy of the University of Edinburgh, and you 
would be able to withdraw consent for participation at any time for any reason 
- or none at all.

I'll be contactable at this email address (listed in my signature) and on the 
IRC channels as JHistone - if you're interested (or just want to say hi or have 
a chat) please feel free to get in touch.

Best wishes,

Ben Collier

Doctoral Researcher
The University of Edinburgh

SCCJR profile: http://www.sccjr.ac.uk/about-us/people/ben-collier/
Edinburgh University profile: 
http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/research/students/viewstudent?ref=339
Twitter: @JohnnyHistone
Email: s1263...@sms.ed.ac.uk

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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[tor-talk] Research - Tor and the shaping of resistance technologies

[COLLIER Ben]

Hello all,

Greetings from (currently freezing cold) Scotland. I'm a researcher at the 
University of Edinburgh studying antisurveillance technologies, software 
development and how these are shaped at different levels by ideas about crime 
and surveillance. I'd describe my work as criminological but with a strong 
critical dimension - my research isn't about "fighting crime" or developing 
cybersecurity policy. I'm interested instead in exploring the power 
relationships, social and technological factors which determine how actions and 
communities are labelled criminal, and include harms caused by states and other 
powerful actors which may not traditionally be considered as "crimes".

>From this perspective, I would like to explore how the values and perspectives 
>of people who develop software to resist surveillance and promote anonymity 
>online shape the technologies they work on, and whether this expertise changes 
>how they see these issues. I have a background in (statistical) programming 
>and I'm particularly interested in finding out how people see these issues 
>playing out in practice in their work.

While I'd like to carry out more in-depth research in the new year, at this 
stage I'm interested in making sure I'm asking the right questions. As such, 
I'd be very grateful if anyone involved in Tor development, either as a core 
developer or as a volunteer, would be interested in having a chat, or if 
possible a short interview. Any discussions would be anonymous and carried out 
in accordance with the ethics policy of the University of Edinburgh, and you 
would be able to withdraw consent for participation at any time for any reason 
- or none at all.

I'll be contactable at this email address (listed in my signature) and on the 
IRC channels as JHistone - if you're interested (or just want to say hi or have 
a chat) please feel free to get in touch.

Best wishes,

Ben Collier

Doctoral Researcher
The University of Edinburgh

SCCJR profile: http://www.sccjr.ac.uk/about-us/people/ben-collier/
Edinburgh University profile: 
http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/research/students/viewstudent?ref=339
Twitter: @JohnnyHistone
Email: s1263...@sms.ed.ac.uk

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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