Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Jason Long]

It is my problem and if webmail use mail server IP then why my email forwarded 
to Spam! 

On Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:19 PM, Ben Tasker  
wrote:
 

 So, it seems there are some differences which decide whether Google will 
include the client IP when using the web interface.
If you're using an "Apps for domain" account, the X-originating-ip header will 
be added every time, whether you use Webmail or the "Gmail" app on Android.
If you're using a @gmail.com address then it's not so consistent. I've not 
tracked down exactly what the difference are, but it adds it some of the time. 
Doesn't seem to be purely related to logging in from a new IP, could perhaps be 
related to the "reputation" of the IP you're connecting from? IPv4 vs IPv6 
doesn't make a difference as far as I can see. Presumably they only add it when 
they consider the connection is possibly a risk, otherwise you'd never add it 
(or always add it).
So the fuller answer, I guess, is "perhaps"
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Ben Tasker  wrote:

That's not strictly true. 
Under various circumstances, when using webmail, google will add an additional 
header - X-Originating-IP - which contains the IP of the client (i.e. your 
browser) connected to the webmail interface.
Once upon a time, Hotmail used to do it to, though they moved to using a hashed 
version (and X-EIP as the header IIRC).
You won't see the webmail client in "received from" headers though.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Aeris  wrote:

> You wrong!!!
> Google can't reveal client IP. It is an email header, Can you tell me the IP
> address of sender?

It depends how you send your email.

If you use their webmail, your client IP is not send, because first sending
SMTP machine is a gmail one :
        Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]) Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:18 +
(UTC)
        Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com
 [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b:: 229])
        Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:43:55 -0700
(PDT)

If you use SMTP, your client IP is send because it’s the first sending SMTP
machine :
        Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:45:00 +
(UTC)
        Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com
 [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09:: 231]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:40 + (UTC)
        Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:44:40 -0700
(PDT)
        Received: from aeris.imirhil.fr ([***2001:41d0:fe85:b900::1*** ]); Sun, 
30
Oct 2016 04:44:38 -0700 (PDT)

This is why on my personal SMTP server, any client informations are dropped or
anonymized.
        /^\s*(Received: from)[^\n]*(.*)/ REPLACE $1 [127.0.0.1] (localhost
[127.0.0.1])$2
        /^\s*User-Agent:/        IGNORE
        /^\s*X-Enigmail:/        IGNORE
        /^\s*X-Mailer:/          IGNORE
        /^\s*X-Originating-IP:/  IGNORE


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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Ben Tasker]

So, it seems there are some differences which decide whether Google will
include the client IP when using the web interface.

If you're using an "Apps for domain" account, the X-originating-ip header
will be added *every* time, whether you use Webmail or the "Gmail" app on
Android.

If you're using a @gmail.com address then it's not so consistent. I've not
tracked down exactly what the difference are, but it adds it some of the
time.

Doesn't seem to be purely related to logging in from a new IP, could
perhaps be related to the "reputation" of the IP you're connecting from?
IPv4 vs IPv6 doesn't make a difference as far as I can see. Presumably they
only add it when they consider the connection is possibly a risk, otherwise
you'd never add it (or always add it).

So the fuller answer, I guess, is "perhaps"

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Ben Tasker  wrote:

> That's not strictly true.
>
> Under various circumstances, when using webmail, google will add an
> additional header - X-Originating-IP - which contains the IP of the client
> (i.e. your browser) connected to the webmail interface.
>
> Once upon a time, Hotmail used to do it to, though they moved to using a
> hashed version (and X-EIP as the header IIRC).
>
> You won't see the webmail client in "received from" headers though.
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Aeris  wrote:
>
>> > You wrong!!!
>> > Google can't reveal client IP. It is an email header, Can you tell me
>> the IP
>> > address of sender?
>>
>> It depends how you send your email.
>>
>> If you use their webmail, your client IP is not send, because first
>> sending
>> SMTP machine is a gmail one :
>> Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]) Sun, 30 Oct 2016
>> 11:44:18 +
>> (UTC)
>> Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com
>>  [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::229])
>> Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:43:55
>> -0700
>> (PDT)
>>
>> If you use SMTP, your client IP is send because it’s the first sending
>> SMTP
>> machine :
>> Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016
>> 11:45:00 +
>> (UTC)
>> Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com
>>  [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:40 + (UTC)
>> Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:44:40
>> -0700
>> (PDT)
>> Received: from aeris.imirhil.fr ([***2001:41d0:fe85:b900::1***]);
>> Sun, 30
>> Oct 2016 04:44:38 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> This is why on my personal SMTP server, any client informations are
>> dropped or
>> anonymized.
>> /^\s*(Received: from)[^\n]*(.*)/ REPLACE $1 [127.0.0.1] (localhost
>> [127.0.0.1])$2
>> /^\s*User-Agent:/IGNORE
>> /^\s*X-Enigmail:/IGNORE
>> /^\s*X-Mailer:/  IGNORE
>> /^\s*X-Originating-IP:/  IGNORE
>>
>>
>> Regards,
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>>
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Aeris]

> But sometimes, mail servers (are checking if the sender domain name = IP
> ? to prevent spam ?
> May be I'm wrong, not an expert ;)

Some servers can check for a valid rDNS/FCrDNS [1].
Reverse of the IP sending the mail must be equal to the HELO/EHLO domain used.
For example the nazi and very bad DNSBL V4BL [2] do this check and reject all 
mail if not pass. This check is also a clue for spamassassin [3] for spam 
scoring but doesn’t reject the mail only on this fact.

This is a best practice from RFC 1912 [4] but is highly problematic for self-
hosting/tiny mail provider because it’s not common at all to be able to manage 
IPv4 reverse (and worst IPv6 reverse) :
- Reverse IPs require cooperation of your ISP/IP provider because the 
affected in-addr.arpa zone is on it authority server and not your. Only few 
allow reverse IP for their customers.
- It’s not compatible with multiple domains behind single IP with 
standard 
tools (EHLO/HELO is generally not dynamic but static in SMTP config).
- It requires a single SMTP outgoing gateway for all your outgoing mail 
server, to avoid reverse DNS on all your IP and in particular on your shared 
hosting server.

Only huge enough email providers like Google or Microsoft are able to ensure 
clean rDNS/FCrDNS in practice…

> I see on mine bad guyz trying to send mails from a domain name not equal
> to the IP from it's sent... is it "reading" the header informations to
> make it possible ?

Spammer generally use a EHLO with the targeted domain or common outgoing 
domain (gmail, yahoo, microsoft…) to try to confused anti-spam or badly 
configured incoming mail server (corporate email servers generally whitelist 
their own domain…).

And remember the SMTP *content* can be totally different from SMTP *metadata*.
You can announce an EHLO domain "foo" but send an email from and to "bar" 
domain. This can be a spoofed email but also totally valid email.
An email sent from a "foo" server with a "foo" TO addresses but a "bar" FROM 
and BCC adress will generate the following SMTP on the BCC server.

EHLO mx.foo
MAIL FROM:
RCPT TO:
DATA
From: sender@bar
To: to@foo
Subject: a BCC email
This is the body
.

You can imagine more wierd SMTP exchange with 5 differents domains on the 
EHLO, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO, From and To (mailing list change EHLO, address 
rewriting change MAIL FROM, forwarding change RCPT TO, BCC decorrelate 
metadata from content…)…
Paradize for spammer, hell for spam fighter…

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS
[2] https://gcm.v4bl.org/
[3] https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RDNS_NONE
[4] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1912#section-2.1

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Ben Tasker]

That's not strictly true.

Under various circumstances, when using webmail, google will add an
additional header - X-Originating-IP - which contains the IP of the client
(i.e. your browser) connected to the webmail interface.

Once upon a time, Hotmail used to do it to, though they moved to using a
hashed version (and X-EIP as the header IIRC).

You won't see the webmail client in "received from" headers though.

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Aeris  wrote:

> > You wrong!!!
> > Google can't reveal client IP. It is an email header, Can you tell me
> the IP
> > address of sender?
>
> It depends how you send your email.
>
> If you use their webmail, your client IP is not send, because first sending
> SMTP machine is a gmail one :
> Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]) Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:18
> +
> (UTC)
> Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com
>  [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::229])
> Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:43:55
> -0700
> (PDT)
>
> If you use SMTP, your client IP is send because it’s the first sending SMTP
> machine :
> Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016
> 11:45:00 +
> (UTC)
> Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com
>  [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:40 + (UTC)
> Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:44:40
> -0700
> (PDT)
> Received: from aeris.imirhil.fr ([***2001:41d0:fe85:b900::1***]);
> Sun, 30
> Oct 2016 04:44:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
> This is why on my personal SMTP server, any client informations are
> dropped or
> anonymized.
> /^\s*(Received: from)[^\n]*(.*)/ REPLACE $1 [127.0.0.1] (localhost
> [127.0.0.1])$2
> /^\s*User-Agent:/IGNORE
> /^\s*X-Enigmail:/IGNORE
> /^\s*X-Mailer:/  IGNORE
> /^\s*X-Originating-IP:/  IGNORE
>
>
> Regards,
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>
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[tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[tortalk]

Hi Torusers,


there is an additional charakter to identify so's email. Take a look at 
Alphabet and its SPAM filter:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/35921#efmACIACz
"Secondary verification by google.com DKIM key"

*DKIM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DKIM

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Petrusko]

Thx for this.

But sometimes, mail servers (are checking if the sender domain name = IP
? to prevent spam ?
May be I'm wrong, not an expert ;)

I see on mine bad guyz trying to send mails from a domain name not equal
to the IP from it's sent... is it "reading" the header informations to
make it possible ?


Aeris :
> This is why on my personal SMTP server, any client informations are dropped 
> or 
> anonymized.
>   /^\s*(Received: from)[^\n]*(.*)/ REPLACE $1 [127.0.0.1] (localhost 
> [127.0.0.1])$2
>   /^\s*User-Agent:/IGNORE
>   /^\s*X-Enigmail:/IGNORE
>   /^\s*X-Mailer:/  IGNORE
>   /^\s*X-Originating-IP:/  IGNORE

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Aeris]

> You wrong!!!
> Google can't reveal client IP. It is an email header, Can you tell me the IP
> address of sender?

It depends how you send your email.

If you use their webmail, your client IP is not send, because first sending 
SMTP machine is a gmail one :
Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]) Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:18 + 
(UTC)
Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com
 [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::229])
Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:43:55 -0700 
(PDT)

If you use SMTP, your client IP is send because it’s the first sending SMTP 
machine :
Received: from imirhil.fr ([127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:45:00 
+ 
(UTC)
Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com
 [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]); Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:44:40 + (UTC)
Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 04:44:40 -0700 
(PDT)
Received: from aeris.imirhil.fr ([***2001:41d0:fe85:b900::1***]); Sun, 
30 
Oct 2016 04:44:38 -0700 (PDT)

This is why on my personal SMTP server, any client informations are dropped or 
anonymized.
/^\s*(Received: from)[^\n]*(.*)/ REPLACE $1 [127.0.0.1] (localhost 
[127.0.0.1])$2
/^\s*User-Agent:/IGNORE
/^\s*X-Enigmail:/IGNORE
/^\s*X-Mailer:/  IGNORE
/^\s*X-Originating-IP:/  IGNORE


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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Ben Tasker]

You've snipped out more than half the headers, so obviously none of the
information's there.

If you're checking mail that's come via a list, the header won't be
included in the mail that the list sends onward (so you can't, for example,
walk over mails from tor-talk and grab people's IP).

Send your Yahoo account an email directly from your gmail account (using
the web interface) and then look at the headers. It should be there, though
taking a quick glance at Google's docs it looks like they sometimes don't
include it - https://support.google.com/mail/answer/26903?hl=en see also
http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/6942/when-does-gmail-include-the-x-originating-ip-header





On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Jason Long  wrote:

> You wrong!!!
> Google can't reveal client IP. It is an email header, Can you tell me the
> IP address of sender?
>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Received: by 10.103.2.209 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
> In-Reply-To:  ne6koukuwi-...@mail.gmail.com>
> References: 

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Jason Long]

You wrong!!!
Google can't reveal client IP. It is an email header, Can you tell me the IP 
address of sender?

MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.103.2.209 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: 

References: 

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Joe Btfsplk]

On 10/24/2016 7:46 AM, Jason Long wrote:

Thus google store my IP address? How can I see "X-Originating-Header"?



Google will store *any* data it can get its grubby paws on.
Often, if you add the email address to your contacts list (in the 
providers web mail settings), it won't mark messages as spam.
Some providers even have an option like, "Don't mark as spam if sender 
is in my contacts list."  Just like Tbird does.

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Ben Tasker]

Send an email to another account you control (might work sending to
yourself, I've not tested).

Then in the receiving mail client choose "View original", "view headers"
 or similar. It'll probably be one of the lowermost headers

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jason Long  wrote:

> Thus google store my IP address? How can I see "X-Originating-Header"?
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 24, 2016 3:57 PM, Ben Tasker 
> wrote:
> Gmail tends to add a header containing your client IP -
> X-Originating-Header
>
> I've never looked to see whether any spam filters are set up to use it
> though. If they were to, they'd see the IP of an exit node so might mark as
> spam based on that.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jason Long  wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> > When I open my Gmail via Tor browser and send email them my Emails
> > forwarded to Spam Folder why? I guess web mails never use clients IPs.
> Am I
> > wrong?
> >
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Jason Long]

Thus google store my IP address? How can I see "X-Originating-Header"?



On Monday, October 24, 2016 3:57 PM, Ben Tasker  wrote:
Gmail tends to add a header containing your client IP - X-Originating-Header

I've never looked to see whether any spam filters are set up to use it
though. If they were to, they'd see the IP of an exit node so might mark as
spam based on that.


On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jason Long  wrote:

> Hello.
> When I open my Gmail via Tor browser and send email them my Emails
> forwarded to Spam Folder why? I guess web mails never use clients IPs. Am I
> wrong?
>
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Ben Tasker]

Gmail tends to add a header containing your client IP - X-Originating-Header

I've never looked to see whether any spam filters are set up to use it
though. If they were to, they'd see the IP of an exit node so might mark as
spam based on that.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jason Long  wrote:

> Hello.
> When I open my Gmail via Tor browser and send email them my Emails
> forwarded to Spam Folder why? I guess web mails never use clients IPs. Am I
> wrong?
>
> Thank you.
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[tor-talk] Tor and forward email to Spam folder.

[Jason Long]

Hello.
When I open my Gmail via Tor browser and send email them my Emails forwarded to 
Spam Folder why? I guess web mails never use clients IPs. Am I wrong?

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