Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread Harmony

On 2015-07-31 10:48, John Loughlin wrote:

Dearest Tor,

Before I download you and start loving you, let's have a little *dtr. 
*I

have one question:

How do I know that sundry spies out there will *not*, while I'm 
downloading

you/signing-up the first time, steal my log-in creds *on the spot *and
follow me right into Tor land?


Hi,

I'm not sure I fully understand your question, but with Tor there
is no sign-up process. You download the browser and use it just like
you use your other browsers (after having read the warnings:

https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warning

)

Adversaries CAN steal your login credentials to other websites
(social networks, email, etc.) if you type them into a website that
does not use HTTPS encryption. This is true of all browsers,
including Tor Browser. You can usually tell if your connection is
HTTPS-protected because the address in the address bar begins with
'https://' rather than 'http://'.

I hope that helps. This is a public mailing list for discussion about
Tor's design, so if you have any other general questions about Tor 
please

see if they are covered by the FAQ:

https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en

Thanks,


The question probably reveals me for the non-techie ignoramus I am. But
still...​I have secretive (tho' *legal *and *ethical!*) things to do 
once I

get there, and I want only the eyes I choose to see what I'm doing.


Alms for the Ignoramus?

*​Locke*


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Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread Speak Freely
In an attempt to try to help clean up tor-talk, partly because I've been
to blame for getting this mailing-list off topic several times...

John, if you have any general questions, you can email me directly and I
will try to answer them as best I can.

I think it's great you're interested how it works, and if you have
specific questions about the implementation or design, then this
mailing-list is the right place.

Hopefully you're aware of the fact that some of your browsing habits
will have to change in order to be as safe as possible. I do hope you
heed the warnings in the link Harmony provided. (PGP, OTR, HTTPS, etc)

Also, as mentioned pretty much everywhere, Tor is *not* the only thing
you need to be  stay protected. Depending on your needs, you may have a
bit more to learn than the average Tor user simply looking to browse the
web unimpeded by government censorship.


Matt
Speak Freely
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Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread John Loughlin
Aha! Thank you, Matt.  I'm sure there is more to learn.

In essence, I want to be able to communicate off radar w a specific set of
folks, but wo having to drag them into a darknet arena they may not be
comfy with bc of religious convictions. Nothing nefarious, but needfully
underground for their security.

If I need more than Tor, mind sharing how i might go about securing? It
wouldn't be anything more than text-type communication.
On Jul 31, 2015 1:41 PM, Speak Freely when2plus2...@riseup.net wrote:

 In an attempt to try to help clean up tor-talk, partly because I've been
 to blame for getting this mailing-list off topic several times...

 John, if you have any general questions, you can email me directly and I
 will try to answer them as best I can.

 I think it's great you're interested how it works, and if you have
 specific questions about the implementation or design, then this
 mailing-list is the right place.

 Hopefully you're aware of the fact that some of your browsing habits
 will have to change in order to be as safe as possible. I do hope you
 heed the warnings in the link Harmony provided. (PGP, OTR, HTTPS, etc)

 Also, as mentioned pretty much everywhere, Tor is *not* the only thing
 you need to be  stay protected. Depending on your needs, you may have a
 bit more to learn than the average Tor user simply looking to browse the
 web unimpeded by government censorship.


 Matt
 Speak Freely
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Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread I
John,

Tor is just an encrypted browsing system so there's nothing to do to get in 
except download and use it.

To be more protected you might have a look at Surveillance Self-defence 
https://ssd.eff.org/
at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
There are a number of things there to make using Tor, and your computer, more 
private.

Robert

 -Original Message-
 From: johnallanlough...@gmail.com

 Dearest Tor,
 
 How do I know that sundry spies out there will *not*, while I'm
 downloading
 you/signing-up the first time, steal my log-in creds *on the spot *and



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Re: [tor-talk] love! and a question

2015-07-31 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:00 PM, John Loughlin
johnallanlough...@gmail.com wrote:
 In essence, I want to be able to communicate off radar w a specific set of
 folks, but wo having to drag them into a darknet arena they may not be
 comfy with

 If I need more than Tor, mind sharing how i might go about securing?

There are dedicated apps for private comms that only run over Tor
and don't really themselves require exposure to or surfing around
using random darknet sites/forums. TorChat is one of them:
https://github.com/prof7bit/TorChat

Take a look through and browse for similar things here:
https://wiki.torproject.org/

Some of these may or may not plug into Tor and require more
knowledge to evaluate and use properly:
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/windows/#instant-messaging

There are other lists of possible apps and tools to use and related
discussions that people post on this mailing list from time to time:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/

Welcome to Tor, have fun.
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