Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?

[Shobha Tyagi]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:31 PM Shobha Tyagi  wrote:

> Dear Clif,
>
> That is the big reason people could not think of contributing to open
> source the project. GNOME community[1] is the most active and great
> community we can work with.
>
> Thanks
> Shobha Tyagi
> [1] https://www.gnome.org/get-involved/
>
[2]https://wiki.gnome.org/Community

>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:37 PM Clif Kussmaul 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi William,
>>
>> Thank you for the pointer to FLOSS Manuals – seems like a great resource.
>> The manuals I’ve looked at seem very good, but do little to draw new users
>> into the project community. In the FLOSS Manual for Audacity, the only
>> reference I see to the project community is a one page appendix “Additional
>> Help” which lists resources: user guide, wiki, forum, mailing list, videos,
>> IRC. In the FLOSS Manual for Inkscape, I see no references to the project
>> community or resources. Does anyone know of FLOSS Manuals that emphasize
>> the project community?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m imagining topics like those in italics below – maybe sections or
>> sidebars in a manual/tutorial, or maybe a separate tutorial. The idea is to
>> help people learn about the project and the community together, so that
>> participating & contributing seem as natural as using the software.
>>
>>
>>
>> - The Project
>>
>> - *The Project Community*
>>
>> - Installing the Software
>>
>> - Basic Features
>>
>> - *Finding Information (manuals, FAQs)*
>>
>> - More Basic Features
>>
>> - *Asking & Answering Questions (forums, lists, IRC)*
>>
>> - Intermediate Features
>>
>> - *Reporting Problems*
>>
>> - More Intermediate Features
>>
>> - *Suggesting Features and Changes*
>>
>> - Advanced Features
>>
>> - *Contributing to the Community*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Clif
>> ---
>> Clif Kussmaul  c...@kussmaul.org  http://kussmaul.org  +1-484-893-0255
>> EDT=GMT-5  (he/him)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* William Walter Kinghorn [mailto:willi...@dut.ac.za
>> ]
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:19 AM
>> *To:* Clif Kussmaul 
>> *Subject:* Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS
>> projects?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi clif,
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a look at FLOSS Manuals : https://flossmanuals.net/
>>
>>
>>
>> Possibly you can edit/add to the project
>>
>>
>>
>> They do have manuals on Audacity, Blender, iInkscape, and a lot more
>>
>>
>>
>> William
>> --
>>
>> *From:* tos  on behalf of Clif
>> Kussmaul 
>> *Sent:* 27 April 2019 18:32
>> *To:* tos@teachingopensource.org
>> *Subject:* [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> A year or so ago, I went to a library open house where students and
>> faculty demoed FOSS tools like Audacity, FreeMind, Inkscape, GIMP, &
>> WordPress. However, no one I talked to had participated in their project’s
>> community. This seems like a missed opportunity, especially for someone who
>> uses one project heavily (e.g. a musician who uses MuseScore, a designer
>> who uses InkScape).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thus, I’d like to develop some activities to help non-technical people
>> learn more about a specific FOSS project, and how to access it’s online
>> resources and interact with the community. I plan to start with Audacity &
>> MuseScore. Please let me know if you have other project suggestions, or
>> would like to work together on such activities. My hope is that after the
>> first few we can create a template to make it easier to do more.
>>
>>
>>
>> Clif
>> ---
>> Clif Kussmaul  c...@kussmaul.org  http://kussmaul.org  +1-484-893-0255
>> EDT=GMT-5  (he/him)
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?

[Shobha Tyagi]

Dear Clif,

That is the big reason people could not think of contributing to open
source the project. GNOME community[1] is the most active and great
community we can work with.

Thanks
Shobha Tyagi
[1] https://www.gnome.org/get-involved/

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:37 PM Clif Kussmaul 
wrote:

> Hi William,
>
> Thank you for the pointer to FLOSS Manuals – seems like a great resource.
> The manuals I’ve looked at seem very good, but do little to draw new users
> into the project community. In the FLOSS Manual for Audacity, the only
> reference I see to the project community is a one page appendix “Additional
> Help” which lists resources: user guide, wiki, forum, mailing list, videos,
> IRC. In the FLOSS Manual for Inkscape, I see no references to the project
> community or resources. Does anyone know of FLOSS Manuals that emphasize
> the project community?
>
>
>
> I’m imagining topics like those in italics below – maybe sections or
> sidebars in a manual/tutorial, or maybe a separate tutorial. The idea is to
> help people learn about the project and the community together, so that
> participating & contributing seem as natural as using the software.
>
>
>
> - The Project
>
> - *The Project Community*
>
> - Installing the Software
>
> - Basic Features
>
> - *Finding Information (manuals, FAQs)*
>
> - More Basic Features
>
> - *Asking & Answering Questions (forums, lists, IRC)*
>
> - Intermediate Features
>
> - *Reporting Problems*
>
> - More Intermediate Features
>
> - *Suggesting Features and Changes*
>
> - Advanced Features
>
> - *Contributing to the Community*
>
>
>
>
>
> Clif
> ---
> Clif Kussmaul  c...@kussmaul.org  http://kussmaul.org  +1-484-893-0255
> EDT=GMT-5  (he/him)
>
>
>
> *From:* William Walter Kinghorn [mailto:willi...@dut.ac.za
> ]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:19 AM
> *To:* Clif Kussmaul 
> *Subject:* Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS
> projects?
>
>
>
> Hi clif,
>
>
>
> Have a look at FLOSS Manuals : https://flossmanuals.net/
>
>
>
> Possibly you can edit/add to the project
>
>
>
> They do have manuals on Audacity, Blender, iInkscape, and a lot more
>
>
>
> William
> --
>
> *From:* tos  on behalf of Clif
> Kussmaul 
> *Sent:* 27 April 2019 18:32
> *To:* tos@teachingopensource.org
> *Subject:* [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> A year or so ago, I went to a library open house where students and
> faculty demoed FOSS tools like Audacity, FreeMind, Inkscape, GIMP, &
> WordPress. However, no one I talked to had participated in their project’s
> community. This seems like a missed opportunity, especially for someone who
> uses one project heavily (e.g. a musician who uses MuseScore, a designer
> who uses InkScape).
>
>
>
> Thus, I’d like to develop some activities to help non-technical people
> learn more about a specific FOSS project, and how to access it’s online
> resources and interact with the community. I plan to start with Audacity &
> MuseScore. Please let me know if you have other project suggestions, or
> would like to work together on such activities. My hope is that after the
> first few we can create a template to make it easier to do more.
>
>
>
> Clif
> ---
> Clif Kussmaul  c...@kussmaul.org  http://kussmaul.org  +1-484-893-0255
> EDT=GMT-5  (he/him)
>
>
>
>
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Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?

[Clif Kussmaul]

Hi William,

Thank you for the pointer to FLOSS Manuals – seems like a great resource. The 
manuals I’ve looked at seem very good, but do little to draw new users into the 
project community. In the FLOSS Manual for Audacity, the only reference I see 
to the project community is a one page appendix “Additional Help” which lists 
resources: user guide, wiki, forum, mailing list, videos, IRC. In the FLOSS 
Manual for Inkscape, I see no references to the project community or resources. 
Does anyone know of FLOSS Manuals that emphasize the project community?

 

I’m imagining topics like those in italics below – maybe sections or sidebars 
in a manual/tutorial, or maybe a separate tutorial. The idea is to help people 
learn about the project and the community together, so that participating & 
contributing seem as natural as using the software.

 

- The Project

- The Project Community

- Installing the Software

- Basic Features

- Finding Information (manuals, FAQs)

- More Basic Features

- Asking & Answering Questions (forums, lists, IRC)

- Intermediate Features

- Reporting Problems

- More Intermediate Features

- Suggesting Features and Changes

- Advanced Features

- Contributing to the Community

 

 

Clif
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From: William Walter Kinghorn [mailto:willi...@dut.ac.za] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 2:19 AM
To: Clif Kussmaul mailto:clifkussm...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?

 

Hi clif,

 

Have a look at FLOSS Manuals : https://flossmanuals.net/

 

Possibly you can edit/add to the project

 

They do have manuals on Audacity, Blender, iInkscape, and a lot more

 

William

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From: tos mailto:tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org> > on behalf of Clif Kussmaul 
mailto:clifkussm...@gmail.com> >
Sent: 27 April 2019 18:32
To: tos@teachingopensource.org  
Subject: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects? 

 

Hi everyone,

A year or so ago, I went to a library open house where students and faculty 
demoed FOSS tools like Audacity, FreeMind, Inkscape, GIMP, & WordPress. 
However, no one I talked to had participated in their project’s community. This 
seems like a missed opportunity, especially for someone who uses one project 
heavily (e.g. a musician who uses MuseScore, a designer who uses InkScape).

 

Thus, I’d like to develop some activities to help non-technical people learn 
more about a specific FOSS project, and how to access it’s online resources and 
interact with the community. I plan to start with Audacity & MuseScore. Please 
let me know if you have other project suggestions, or would like to work 
together on such activities. My hope is that after the first few we can create 
a template to make it easier to do more.

 

Clif
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Re: [TOS] tos Digest, Vol 111, Issue 8

[Clif Kussmaul]

I like this, and can imagine classroom activities & assignments that use
FOSS data models to help students learn about the FOSS project and database
principles and practices at the same time. Do you have classroom or homework
content you are willing to share?

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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 19:41:43 +0200
From: Francesco Maiorana 
To: tos@teachingopensource.org
Subject: Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?
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Some years ago I experimented, in a Database course, with MusicBrainz
https://musicbrainz.org/doc/About/Data_License
Students loved the idea (music) and it gave the possibility to dig deeper
into the topic (Database) starting from the ER schema
https://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Database/Schema

Francesco

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> Hi everyone,
>
> A year or so ago, I went to a library open house where students and 
> faculty demoed FOSS tools like Audacity, FreeMind, Inkscape, GIMP, &
WordPress.
> However, no one I talked to had participated in their project's community.
> This seems like a missed opportunity, especially for someone who uses 
> one project heavily (e.g. a musician who uses MuseScore, a designer 
> who uses InkScape).
>
> Thus, I'd like to develop some activities to help non-technical people 
> learn more about a specific FOSS project, and how to access it's 
> online resources and interact with the community. I plan to start with 
> Audacity & MuseScore.
> Please let me know if you have other project suggestions, or would 
> like to work together on such activities. My hope is that after the 
> first few we can create a template to make it easier to do more.
>
> Clif
> ---
> Clif Kussmaul    c...@kussmaul.org
>  http://kussmaul.org  +1-484-893-0255  EDT=GMT-5
(he/him)
>
>


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Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?

[Clif Kussmaul]

Hi Joel,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I completely agree that every FOSS project 
needs docs to onramp users & contributors. I wonder if we can be even more 
proactive about drawing people into the community, rather than waiting for them 
to decide that they’re interested. My sense is that many people use FOSS but 
have no knowledge of the community, beyond maybe knowing that it exists. 

 

I think about college & university alumni relations offices, and how they work 
hard to engage recent alums, even in small ways, to keep them connected to the 
institution, so they are more likely to contribute (money or other resources) 
years later.

 

+1 to patterns!

 

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From: Joel Sherrill [mailto:joel.sherr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 4:22 PM
To: Clif Kussmaul 
Cc: tos 
Subject: Re: [TOS] any interest in activities to introduce FOSS projects?

 

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 11:32 AM Clif Kussmaul mailto:clifkussm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone,

A year or so ago, I went to a library open house where students and faculty 
demoed FOSS tools like Audacity, FreeMind, Inkscape, GIMP, & WordPress. 
However, no one I talked to had participated in their project’s community. This 
seems like a missed opportunity, especially for someone who uses one project 
heavily (e.g. a musician who uses MuseScore, a designer who uses InkScape).

Thus, I’d like to develop some activities to help non-technical people learn 
more about a specific FOSS project, and how to access it’s online resources and 
interact with the community. I plan to start with Audacity & MuseScore. Please 
let me know if you have other project suggestions, or would like to work 
together on such activities. My hope is that after the first few we can create 
a template to make it easier to do more.

 

I'm the project lead for RTEMS.org which is a free real-time operating system. 
Our users are primarily technical but we do end up with experienced developers 
a d students who have no embedded cross development experience. 

 

With that background, every open source project needs documentation to market 
the project to find these potential users, on-ramp them from different 
backgrounds and skills levels, and introduce them to the project resources. 

 

There also needs to be comparable documentation for on-ramping contributors 
like developers, patch submitters, documentation fixes, etc. 

 

Some of the projects you mention have been Google Summer of Code participants 
so should have some new developer focused content.

 

Personally I like patterns. If you are looking across a set of projects like it 
sounds, define roles and what should be in place. Including a suggestion on 
organisation of it all and artifact names. This could develop into a standard 
model and that would help new users and open source organisations since they 
would have a roadmap.

 

Remember every document should have a well-defined audience and scope. 

 

Some of the documents may be related to the business cases associated with 
using the software. A standard I work with has a business and technical side to 
ensure there business barriers to adoption are addressed.

 

That's just random thoughts.

 

--joel

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