Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] BBC live does not work through DAC

2012-08-08 Thread bpa

If you are not in tthe UK and using AAC streams - then BBC have recently
changed live http/AAC streams from 48kbps/44.1kHz to 56kbps/32kHz. 
There was a choice for a while but it now seems to have gone.

I think the WMA streams are still 48kbps/44.1kHz.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread Flying Ed

Is it a possibility at anytime in the future that the app will offer
support in 24/176/192 for AIFF files?



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[SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread bencat

I have an SBT and have loaded the Triode EDO App mainly in the past for
the digital out via Coaxial SPDIF . I have recently bought an Anti -
Mode 2.0 Dual Core 
http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/20-dual-core.shtml.
The unit only has SPDIF in and out as Toslink or USB and I wanted to use
the USB from the SBT as the digital out. However when I connected the
two units there was no connection made and nothing but static was coming
through the Anti - Mode unit and the small screen froze and showed
distorted graphics. 
According to the unit it is compliant with USB 2.0 but it is just a
straight USB input. 
Can you advise if this is just a connection issue because I tried the
unit when switched on ? If I connect the SBT and the Anti-Mode while
switched off and then power them both up at the same time would this
make the right connection ? Are there any settings on the SBT that I
would need to change ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

bencat wrote: 
 I have an SBT and have loaded the Triode EDO App mainly in the past for
 the digital out via Coaxial SPDIF . I have recently bought an Anti -
 Mode 2.0 Dual Core 
 http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/20-dual-core.shtml.
 The unit only has SPDIF in and out as Toslink or USB and I wanted to use
 the USB from the SBT as the digital out. However when I connected the
 two units there was no connection made and nothing but static was coming
 through the Anti - Mode unit and the small screen froze and showed
 distorted graphics. 
 According to the unit it is compliant with USB 2.0 but it is just a
 straight USB input. 
 Can you advise if this is just a connection issue because I tried the
 unit when switched on ? If I connect the SBT and the Anti-Mode while
 switched off and then power them both up at the same time would this
 make the right connection ? Are there any settings on the SBT that I
 would need to change ?

I tried the same setup in my system and discovered that it won't work.
As a workaround I inserted a Music Fidelity VLink II USB to SPDIF
converter between the SBT and the Dual Core. BTW, I found that the DAC
in the Dual Core is more transparent than my former DAC (a Cambridge
Audio 840C). 

Regards,

Guido F.



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[SlimDevices: Touch] Does anyone know if Musicovery stations can be broadcast through the Squeezebox?

2012-08-08 Thread Ocean56

I looked at Musicovery's site and didn't see any information about doing
this.

Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

bencat wrote: 
 Hi Guidof 
 
 Thanks for your information and response it at least means that it is
 not just my set up that has an issue. Has anyone responded as to why it
 does not work ? Is the issue with the Anti - Mode or the SBT ? 
 
 Will at some point get the Anti Mode unit connected directly to my Power
 amp and give it a try but not sure that it will be any better than the
 P-1a  Antimode  P-3a I currently have but certainly worth trying .

I also tried the Anti Mode as a preamp (I.e., connected directly into my
amp). But I found the resulting sound to be a bit on the sterile side
and lacking in dynamics. Similar to the sound I get if I run my preamp
in passive mode. That's why I now use the Anti Mode purely as EQ/DAC and
run its balanced analog output into my preamp set for active mode (see
sig below). Sounds very good to me, much better than my prior setup with
the CA 840C as DAC. The benefit of room mode correction is significant
in my setup. Of course, your room and your experience may be different.

Best,

Guido F.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread Triode

Flying Ed wrote: 
 Is it a possibility at anytime in the future that the app will offer
 support in 24/176/192 for AIFF files?

AIFF should be supported with 7.8 now.  There is a bug in the server
with 24 bit files though which means they will sound like white noise -
I believe this is easily fixed with a small change to the server code. 
I added a patch to the bug for it somewhere - will look for a reference
to it.

As you want AIFF are you using a mac?  In this case you should be able
to make the modification to the server.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to improve Touch sound?

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

Dazed and Confused wrote: 
 Just set up Touch for the first time. FLAC files are being fed via a
 wired connection from a Synology DS212+ NAS, then into amp (analogue)
 using the supplied leads and thenspeakers. The sound is very digital, ie
 bright and and I want to know ways of making it less digital. I have
 read that power supplies can help and also feeding into a stand alone
 DAC then into the AMP.

In my experience and with my systems (see sig below) the sound of the
Touch, either through the digital or the analog out, is not particularly
bright or 'digital'. Aubuti's advice is good: listen for a while before
spending money on new equipment. But if after a few weeks you still find
the sound objectionable, then you may want to focus on that which may
actually make a significant difference in sound: primarily speakers,
speaker and listening chair placement, and room. Amps, preamps (if any)
and DACs can have an effect on sound, but their contribution is
generally far less evident than that of speakers and room.

Hope this helps, but feel free to tell us more about your equipment,
room, listening habits, etc., if you would like further advice.

Regards,

Guido F.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread SBGK

soundcheck wrote: 
 Absolutely. 
 
 There are - out of my memory - 
 
 1. Output routing to hw interface
 2. Passing by asound.conf routing table
 3. 2nd Jive_alsa killing
 4. Buffer size modifications
 5. Screen totally Off
 6. Increase key process priorities 
 
 (All this is no rocket science btw. - I do claim I'm the first who put
 all those tweaks together as package into the context of improving
 efficiency of the SBT)
 
 The measures I've applied, I obviously put  into a slightly different
 context, which belongs to a different area of this forum. 
 Triode would of course never admit that he also appreciates associated
 side-effects. He intends to survive a bit longer 
 over here, so better don't touch that hot potato. 
 I'm pretty sure EDO users are appreciating those side-effects. 
 
 Just to mention it.  EDO might even work without above listed measures,
 since the main issues seem to be driver and jive related. I'll stop
 here...
 
 However. 
 
 What's common about the measures is that they intented to increase the
 efficiency of a computer system. They'd work on any Linux/Android
 system.
 
 
 Triode had serious problems to get rid of XRUNS in the early days. Even
 all my system optimizations wouldn't 
 stop certain DACs to run into XRUNS. This led him into tweaking the
 Linux audio drivers. 
 
 Just to mention it: USB audio has always been working on the Touch. 
 
 
 Triode put an amazing effort into the subject and has shown a great
 level of skills to make it all available by putting it into the
 LMS/Squeezeplay environment. Great job. 
 
 I do limit my appreciation to the Squeezeplay/LMS/driver part of the
 story...

What a week, can it get any better ? 

First NASA lands Curiosity on Mars and now Soundcheck gives us the
benefit of his knowledge. 

If Soundcheck brought out a version of EDO would it be called EGO ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread bencat

Hi Guido 

I bought the Anti Mode for the roomcorrection functions and was really
surprised at how bad my room was when I saw the red line readings after
calibration they looked like the Alps . What is more important thought
is how much better the sound was when the correction was applied with so
much more coherent and listenable bass and more natural voices. I am not
thinking of going back to the sound without the AM in place. Currently I
have it pushing out a digital output toa dac then back in to my system.
Sadly my Pre Amp (Concordant Exhilliarant an old Tube / Valve Line
stage) does not have balanced inputs so have to use the AM via RCA and
it runs out of volume when used directly in to the pre. I understand
that there is more output from the balanced XLR outputs so may look to
get some XLR to phono leads and see if that could work .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-08-08 Thread Flying Ed

Triode wrote: 
 AIFF should be supported with 7.8 now.  There is a bug in the server
 with 24 bit files though which means they will sound like white noise -
 I believe this is easily fixed with a small change to the server code. 
 I added a patch to the bug for it somewhere - will look for a reference
 to it.
 
 As you want AIFF are you using a mac?  In this case you should be able
 to make the modification to the server.
 
 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17163 - post 6 shows a small
 addition you can make to the AIFF.pm file to change the offset of the
 audio data by 8 bytes which should make 24 bit files work once you
 rescan them.

Thanks Triode!.
Yes i am a Mac user.
Thanks for the info i will now try and sort it.
Cheers.
F.E.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Connecting SBT to an Anti Mode 2.0 Dual Core unit via USB using Triode EDO App

2012-08-08 Thread guidof

bencat wrote: 
 Hi Guido 
 
 I bought the Anti Mode for the roomcorrection functions and was really
 surprised at how bad my room was when I saw the red line readings after
 calibration they looked like the Alps . What is more important thought
 is how much better the sound was when the correction was applied with so
 much more coherent and listenable bass and more natural voices. I am not
 thinking of going back to the sound without the AM in place. Currently I
 have it pushing out a digital output toa dac then back in to my system.
 Sadly my Pre Amp (Concordant Exhilliarant an old Tube / Valve Line
 stage) does not have balanced inputs so have to use the AM via RCA and
 it runs out of volume when used directly in to the pre. I understand
 that there is more output from the balanced XLR outputs so may look to
 get some XLR to phono leads and see if that could work .

My impression about the room correction effect is similar to yours. I
had the mono version of the AM on my sub and had experienced the same
kind of improvement, which is what led me to purchase the Dual Core for
my main speakers. I am curious, though, about your using an external DAC
(I.e., bypassing the AM's internal DAC). Have you tried using the AM's
DAC and sending its analog output directly to your preamp? 

BTW, I also found that the output volume of the AM is on the low side,
even from the XLR out, so I'm running both the AM and the preamp at full
volume (no attenuation), and use the volume on the Touch to control
volume. With this setup, I get enough SPL, but at times barely.



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