Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread Redrum


ews2k wrote: 
> 
> I am pondering whether the 'rushing' sound was not possibly caused by
> data getting into the audio stream? Imagine the sound when standing in,
> around or under a waterfall - this is what it was doing.
> 
> 
> -Eric

In all my sb years, I have not heard anything like you describe, but one
thing to consider/keep in mind is grounding, ground loops, and EMI
interference. Usually these problems are more of a hum or buzz. I have a
receiver hooked to an old analog integrated amp in my garage that
occasionally starts to buzz, then with a "snap" sound it stops. I have
yet to find out why, as it happens so infrequently. I think my circa
70's amplifier has a ground issue somewhere, maybe it changes with heat,
who knows. 

The SB power supplies are all switching, so they are electromagnetically
noisy as well. 

fingers crossed that your mystery resolved itself :), but if it does
reappear, and you can recreate it, swap things out, even the outlet it's
plugged into, items nearby that might be radiating EMI, the touch power
supply, the amplifier you are using, try the analog instead of digital
out, stream internet, local media, etc. Just keep swapping until you can
eliminate some of the possible causes.

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread slartibartfast


kidstypike wrote: 
> It must have, it make noises when you browse the menus, you can
> disable/enable these, Settings > Audio settings.
> 
> 29544Fair enough I always turn those sounds off.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> The Touch doesn't have a built in speaker.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

IIRC original Touch had a micro speaker and a microphone.  Don't know if
they got omitted in later production runs.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread kidstypike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> The Touch doesn't have a built in speaker.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

It must have, it make noises when you browse the menus, you can
disable/enable these, Settings > Audio settings.



*Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.0.0-b9 18K library,
playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs)
*Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite,
*Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
*Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread slartibartfast


ews2k wrote: 
> I took it to the office this morning and all was fine for about 2 hours
> before the dreaded rushing noise again, from both the amplifier
> connected to the Touch as well as the Touch's built-in speaker. Again
> the only way to kill this was to unplug the unit from the power source.
> 
> I then tried to "refresh the wifi network" (or whatever it was called)
> and this resulted in no wifi connection at all. 
> 
> Drastic measures were called for: I first tried a factory restore using
> the advanced settings menu, this solved nothing. I finally tried a hard
> factory restore (holding the button at the back of the unit above the DC
> connector in while restoring power) and happy days - the wifi now worked
> after re-entering my password. The Touch played happily with no problem
> after this at the office and ditto at home - no more buzzing. There was
> one minor glitch where the Touch rebooted itself stating there was a
> system error, would I like to send it to Logitech for evaluation - which
> I did. But still working nicely after it rebooted itself. 
> 
> I am pondering whether the 'rushing' sound was not possibly caused by
> data getting into the audio stream? Imagine the sound when standing in,
> around or under a waterfall - this is what it was doing.
> 
> Still keeping fingers crossed but at the same time feeling far more
> confident that the problem has been solved. :)
> 
> 
> -EricThe Touch doesn't have a built in speaker.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread ews2k


Redrum wrote: 
> ews2k, why not try loading a few songs on a thumb drive and see if the
> problem persists when listening to music locally (no network or ISP)?
> This is an old document, and things might have changed, but page 12 runs
> you through the steps:
> 
> https://www.logitech.com/assets/33606/squeezebox-touch-fg.pdf
> 
> I set a touch up for a friend like this this past summer, after
> struggling with an duet/LMS solution on his unstable network/isp
> (combined with the fact he is not technical and quick to frustrate, I
> digress...).
> 
> This might at least tell you if you are dealing with the player or the
> network. It might make you happier about your purchase :)
> 
> Jim

Good idea, Jim, will certainly try this as well. Actually a very good
idea!


-Eric



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread ews2k


I took it to the office this morning and all was fine for about 2 hours
before the dreaded rushing noise again, from both the amplifier
connected to the Touch as well as the Touch's built-in speaker. Again
the only way to kill this was to unplug the unit from the power source.

I then tried to "refresh the wifi network" (or whatever it was called)
and this resulted in no wifi connection at all. 

Drastic measures were called for: I first tried a factory restore using
the advanced settings menu, this solved nothing. I finally tried a hard
factory restore (holding the button at the back of the unit above the DC
connector in while restoring power) and happy days - the wifi now worked
after re-entering my password. The Touch played happily with no problem
after this at the office and ditto at home - no more buzzing. There was
one minor glitch where the Touch rebooted itself stating there was a
system error, would I like to send it to Logitech for evaluation - which
I did. But still working nicely after it rebooted itself. 

I am pondering whether the 'rushing' sound was not possibly caused by
data getting into the audio stream? Imagine the sound when standing in,
around or under a waterfall - this is what it was doing.

Still keeping fingers crossed but at the same time feeling far more
confident that the problem has been solved. :)


-Eric



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread Redrum


toby10 wrote: 
> But no guarantee that will solve your issue if the problem is your
> network or ISP.

ews2k, why not try loading a few songs on a thumb drive and see if the
problem persists when listening to music locally (no network or ISP)?
This is an old document, and things might have changed, but page 12 runs
you through the steps:

https://www.logitech.com/assets/33606/squeezebox-touch-fg.pdf

I set a touch up for a friend like this this past summer, after
struggling with an duet/LMS solution on his unstable network/isp
(combined with the fact he is not technical and quick to frustrate, I
digress...).

This might at least tell you if you are dealing with the player or the
network. It might make you happier about your purchase :)

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio

2020-02-24 Thread toby10


ews2k wrote: 
>   ... Would the Classic be a reliable means of listening to IR radio
> without any computer being in the path?

Yes, same as Touch connecting to MySB.com.  But no guarantee that will
solve your issue if the problem is your network or ISP.



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