[SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread iwannatouch

Someone posted that the Touch is available from many other retailers
besides Logitech and Amazon. Would someone please tell me who these
other retailers are? I don't wish to buy it from a private seller
because I want the protection of Logitech's warranty. I'm hoping to
find it for less than full list price (can't remember when I paid MLP
for electronics). Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread JJZolx

I think that's about it.  If you want to see something interesting, do a
Google search on Logitech's part number for the Touch:

930-74

You'll find a some links to online retailers, but except for Amazon
they either say 'coming soon', 'no longer available', 'discontinued',
or else the product page has been completely removed from the web
site.

It's looking more and more each day like the Touch isn't a real
Logitech product, or else it is/was a very short-lived one.  I hope a
lot of people who have bought the Touch don't get burned when Logitech
comes out with a newer version with more memory or else a completely
redesigned Squeezebox that addresses some of the other shortcomings of
the Touch.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread Tony T

What shortcommings are you referring to?
Also, if what you say had even a hint of truth to it, then the Touch
would not be selling for List price.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread Tony T

iwannatouch;553535 Wrote: 
  I'm hoping to find it for less than full list price (can't remember
 when I paid MLP for electronics). Thanks in advance for your
 suggestions.

Logitech runs promo discount codes.  Search these forums.  (I saved 25%
when I bought a few battery packs for the SB Radio).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread JJZolx

Tony T;553539 Wrote: 
 What shortcommings are you referring to?

Too little memory, anemic CPU, small screen, insufficient power to the
USB port.

 Also, if what you say had even a hint of truth to it, then the Touch
 would not be selling for List price.

Something is certainly unusual.  Why does a manufacturer not supply
willing retailers with product?  Is there some kind of supply shortage
such that only Amazon can be supplied with product?  Why would Logitech
continue to sell them online rather than supply retailers?  You'd think
satisfying your retailers would take priority over your own online
sales, which already competes against them.  Something is going on.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread iPhone

iwannatouch;553559 Wrote: 
 In other words, the Touch fails to live up to the promises made in
 Logitech's advertising?

In my opinion, *NO*. The Touch does what it says it will do. Does it do
it the way everybody wants it to be done with just any old outside
parts? It does not. The problem is people expecting to much and reading
to much into the ad copy. Does it have a built in server, yes it does.
Is it better to use the Touch with a dedicated SBS server, yes it is.
Does it say anywhere that TinySC is better then SBS, no it does not.
Can you use a USB drive with the Touch, yes you can. Can you use just
-ANY- USB drive with Touch, no you can't.

And again, the Touch is a Network Media Player with a 'Feature' of a
limited downscaled built-in server. It is NOT a Music Server with a
'Feature' of also being a Network Media Player.

Getting back on topic, if you want a Touch, order one from Logitech.
That way you are supporting the company that you want to stay around.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread Tony T

iwannatouch;553546 Wrote: 
 With all due respect Tony, one only has to take an honest look at the
 many threads in this forum to realize that quite a few people are
 experiencing a range of problems with the Touch, and that it is indeed
 coming up short in  ways that are important to consumers.

For a 1st generation product, it works well and has met my expectations
for the most part.  I was expecting it to power my USB, so it failed
there, but an $8 ac/dc adaptor solved that problem.  The sound is
excellent when run through my stereo system and while the processor is
indeed underpowered, for the most part (aside from minor rebuffering
issues), it serves my SBRadios quite well.   And for $300, I find it
reasonably priced.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread toby10

pfarrell;553562 Wrote: 
 
 Rather, it fails to meet expectations raised by sloppy wording in 
 Logitech's advertising. Its a dinky box, with a limited CPU and 
 limited amount of memory that can do some things very well. It does
 this 
 on very little power, so its a green product...

I'm likely going to ask a very dumb question (big shocker to the
regulars on here) with my ZERO knowledge of computers, software,
firmware, etc..

But here goes...

Is there any possibility via firmware update to make the Touch's SD
card slot act as additional memory for the Touch?
Maybe adding up to 32gb of additional memory via SD to alleviate
Touch's lack of memory?

I realize this does nothing for Touch's true Achilles heel of a very
low capacity CPU for internal server needs.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread ModelCitizen

The Touch a had a torturous birth. It sat on the warehouse shelves for
ages whilst TinySC was being honed and the bugs ironed out and even
then it was released before it did what it said on the can (TinySBS is
woefully inadequate and does not match up to the marketing spiel: does
not handle large libraries, scanner stuffs up play, no way to set path
to library, etc).

The product concept is flawed - a touch screen on a device tethered by
wire to your systems amplifier? Surely a smaller touch screen on a
mobile remote (like iPeng on an iPhone for instance) would make more
sense or a big display screen (not necessarily touch) for display near
near the hifi? It falls between all the stools.

And now the Touch is not being supplied to resellers and is sold via
Amazon and Logitech. This must make it simpler to administer returns,
and you've got to assume it's enough outlet to shift existing stock. Do
you think there are any more being made?.

Current Touch development/bug fixes are supported by a single
developer, very, very part time. What are the other Logitech developers
doing?.

Join up the dots chaps.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread iwannatouch

I want to thank this community's senior members for making it crystal
clear to me (sorry it took so long). The Touch as it is - is not the
Touch that Logitech says it is. If I expect it do the things I want it
to do, like handling a large library from an EHD, I am likely to be
frustrated and/or disappointed. As confusing as this experience has
been for me, I cannot imagine what it's like for those beta-testers who
worked so hard to get the Touch to do as much as it does. 

Again, thanks for all the information and advice. Maybe some day
Logitech will make something that fits my needs, but for now I think
it's better if I keep may hands off a Touch (lame pun intended).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread iPhone

ModelCitizen;553595 Wrote: 
 
 Current Touch development/bug fixes are supported by a single
 developer, very, very part time. What are the other Logitech developers
 doing?

If that's true, probably working on the Logitech/Google TV thing?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread andyg

ModelCitizen;553595 Wrote: 
 
 Current Touch development/bug fixes are supported by a single
 developer, part time.

Wait, what? Where did you get this from?  There are 5 of us engineers
working on SB full-time.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread mherger

ModelCitizen;553595 Wrote: 
 Current Touch development/bug fixes are supported by a single developer,
 part time.

...while I spend my vacation with my family. You know nothing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread Tony T

iwannatouch;553599 Wrote: 
 I want to thank this community's senior members for making it crystal
 clear to me (sorry it took so long). The Touch as it is - is not the
 Touch that Logitech says it is. If I expect it do the things I want it
 to do, like handling a large library from an EHD, I am likely to be
 frustrated and/or disappointed. As confusing as this experience has
 been for me, I cannot imagine what it's like for those beta-testers who
 worked so hard to get the Touch to do as much as it does. 
 
 Again, thanks for all the information and advice. Maybe some day
 Logitech will make something that fits my needs, but for now I think
 it's better if I keep may hands off a Touch (lame pun intended).

What do you consider large?  I have 200g of FLAC files (8,000 tracks)
that play with minimal issues (that being rebuffering of the 1st track
when playing random songs, a minor nuisance ).

Let us know which product you buy (take a look at the Sony Dash, Linn
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Where can i get a touch in the u.s.?

2010-06-08 Thread Apesbrain

@Andy  Michael, thank you both for weighing in on this topic.  I'm
going to buy a Touch to add to my Classic and Radio.  I'm just pissed
that I missed out on the 25% discount that some people snagged in
April.  Eventually I'll get over it and buy one from Amazon.  Please
keep up the good work!


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