[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
Running acpi -V is a workaround (thank you), but not a solution :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1374908] Re: power-indicator frozen immediately after boot
Hi Matt, It was suggested by the Facebook site for elementary OS that I post a bug to this forum as shown here: https://www.facebook.com/elementaryos/posts/1086416521390176 Sorry if this is a duplicate post--just doing what I was asked to do. Cheers! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1374908 Title: power-indicator frozen immediately after boot Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: On a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04.1, immediately after booting or resuming the system, power indicator stops updating and instead remains stuck at whatever state it was in upon boot. Power Statistics seems to accurately display the battery status, but indicator and power settings do not. I saw this problem popped up a few years back with Samsung machines and was subsequently patched, but haven't heard much about it recently. When i run upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 the proper information shows up. My laptop has only 1 battery, and I was under the impression that it should show up under BAT0, but I am not entirely sure. The issue has not affected the actual charging and discharging of the battery. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1374908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1374908] Re: power-indicator frozen immediately after boot
This is tied to an Ubuntu bug as well ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434 ), where mouse power is prioritized over laptop battery power. There is a workaround for the prioritization issue, but the fact that it does not update on battery discharge anyhow, is a huge issue. I have encountered this on a ASUS laptop as well as an HP laptop, and it occurs in the last 2 Freya updates. Many people have attempted to document workarounds (Google), like manual resets tied to CRON jobs, but nothing is a permanent fix. Prioritizing mouse battery (which takes 8-18 months to discharge) over laptop power (which discharges in 2-8 hours) is a huge, HUGE (yes, all caps) issue IMHO. It effectively renders laptop installs of elementary as "crippled." And when all of my laptop batteries repeatedly runs out of power, despite saying 80%, it makes elementary OS for portability with laptops untenable. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1374908 Title: power-indicator frozen immediately after boot Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: On a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04.1, immediately after booting or resuming the system, power indicator stops updating and instead remains stuck at whatever state it was in upon boot. Power Statistics seems to accurately display the battery status, but indicator and power settings do not. I saw this problem popped up a few years back with Samsung machines and was subsequently patched, but haven't heard much about it recently. When i run upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 the proper information shows up. My laptop has only 1 battery, and I was under the impression that it should show up under BAT0, but I am not entirely sure. The issue has not affected the actual charging and discharging of the battery. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1374908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
The .rule file is the result of a problem between keyboard and chair. I'm going to stop wasting everyone's time here (and stop posting), and do a thorough examination of potential fixes and work-arounds before I post on this thread again. I'll document everything I try (CRON jobs, other battery indicators, potential GNOME conflicts with elementary OS, etc.) as well as notes on where I found solutions, and I'll post the results here only after I have resolved all potential avenues of resolution, after a couple of days of testing and retesting. Moderators, please feel free to delete posts # 42 41 38 and this post, #43. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
2nd issue with this bug: battery indicator not updating status. While editing the .rule file resolves the prioritization of mouse power over laptop power issue, the battery status indicator does not update in a frequent fashion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
Found specifics around the new issue and a temporary fix. The last patch/update from Elementary changed the referred file name to : 95-upower-csr.rule Where it had previously been: 95-upower-csr.rules Traditional .rules files are named with an "s" on the end. So any edits made as indicated in this thread did not work. Making changes to the .rule file followed by a restart fixed the issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
After the latest updates for elementary OS, my battery only shows 100%. I have edited the file with Nano, but there has been no change in the functionality, even after commenting out the Logitech power monitor feature. :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
Agh! The OS update this week overwrote the workaround, and the mouse was re- prioritized over laptop power. Of course, my laptop ran out of power because the battery indicator said I had plenty of charge, because it was sensing my battery, not my laptop. Please resolve this bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
quote with correction: it was sensing my "mouse" battery, not my "laptop's battery." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
Sorry, I just saw this. It should read: "mouse power management should NOT take priority over OS power management" And I'm leaving the word NOT in all caps. I find this to be one of the most frustrating laptop bugs ever, other than broken keys and poor touchpads. I could care less about mouse power--unless your mouse lights up like a xmas tree, that battery will last 2 years. My laptop battery, on the other hand, runs out several times a day with heavy use. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: "If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. " but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1315434] Re: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged
I used nano to successfully edit the 95-upower-csr.rules in elementary OS Freya, as indicated by asmoore82. I want to chime in and reiterate that mouse power management should take priority over OS power management. Battery usage tracking and management for laptops/netbooks should the primary, and dare I say only focus of the battery indicator. I believe that this is the feeling of the majority. I don't mean to dismiss the feelings or opinions of those who like to manage their mouse battery power. However, if the indicator can not be easily fixed to prioritize laptop battery over mouse battery, then I think mouse support should be removed until it can be fixed. Modern mouse power management is such that mice last for thousands of hours (many months) of constant use on a single set of batteries--in fact it is a selling point on the packaging of most mice. I also believe the lengths I had to go to to find this info is very anti-consumer, and it discourages wider adoption of Linux as an accessible, usable, OS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-power in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1315434 Title: Mouse with no time remaining estimate showing in preference to battery being charged Status in indicator-power package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When my laptop battery is in a charging state, but is not fully charged, I expect it to be displayed in preference to my mouse, which has no time remaining estimate. The spec here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power says: If anything is discharging, the menu title should represent the component (not battery, but component) that is estimated to lose power first. For example, if your notebook battery is estimated to discharge in 1 hour 47 minutes, and your wireless mouse battery is estimated to discharge in 27 minutes, the menu title should represent the mouse. but there doesn't seem to be any guideline to what happens when a battery is being charged. I suggest the time remaining to charge a battery should be displayed in preference to the power level in a wireless mouse. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: indicator-power 12.10.6+14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 2 11:50:36 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-26 (156 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Release amd64 (20131016.1) SourcePackage: indicator-power UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-17 (104 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1315434/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
