[Touch-packages] [Bug 1628926] Re: Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

2016-10-05 Thread Robie Basak
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack - that's the
counterargument.

But whichever way, you don't have the right audience here. Tell upstream
:)

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Title:
  Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

Status in openssh package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  ** This is a feature request that regards to security. **

  Please add to the login method a mechanism that postpones successive
  login attempts if X attempts have failed.

  Obviously this can be further enhanced - for example:
  If X successive login attempts failed, then disable that specific login 
method for that specific user for Y minutes.
  If Y minutes have passed and the additional successive attempts failed again 
- then disable that specific login method for that specific user for 2*Y 
minutes.
  And so on... 

  Values of X and Y should be configured by the 'root' user.

  Benefits: greatly reduces the risk of remotely brute-forcing the
  password.

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1628926] Re: Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

2016-10-05 Thread johnmne
@Robie Basak (racb):

OK, though having a good default values impacts greatly on the security
of systems world-wide.

Normal users just install a software but don't configure.
This encourages hackers to attempt to hack users world-wide.
If hackers knew that a good default configurations are present by default 
(which greatly prevents attempts of brute-forcing) to everyone, then they will 
probably give up before trying...

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Title:
  Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

Status in openssh package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  ** This is a feature request that regards to security. **

  Please add to the login method a mechanism that postpones successive
  login attempts if X attempts have failed.

  Obviously this can be further enhanced - for example:
  If X successive login attempts failed, then disable that specific login 
method for that specific user for Y minutes.
  If Y minutes have passed and the additional successive attempts failed again 
- then disable that specific login method for that specific user for 2*Y 
minutes.
  And so on... 

  Values of X and Y should be configured by the 'root' user.

  Benefits: greatly reduces the risk of remotely brute-forcing the
  password.

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1628926] Re: Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

2016-10-03 Thread Robie Basak
This is a feature request that may be addressed by upstream, but
certainly won't be addressed by Ubuntu in a delta. Therefore I'm marking
the "openssh (Ubuntu)" task as Won't Fix for now, because we have no
plans to fix it in Ubuntu. If you'd still like this feature in the
openssh package, then you'll need to convince the upstream openssh
maintainers to add the feature, and then Ubuntu will in time inherit it.

** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Won't Fix

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Title:
  Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

Status in openssh package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  ** This is a feature request that regards to security. **

  Please add to the login method a mechanism that postpones successive
  login attempts if X attempts have failed.

  Obviously this can be further enhanced - for example:
  If X successive login attempts failed, then disable that specific login 
method for that specific user for Y minutes.
  If Y minutes have passed and the additional successive attempts failed again 
- then disable that specific login method for that specific user for 2*Y 
minutes.
  And so on... 

  Values of X and Y should be configured by the 'root' user.

  Benefits: greatly reduces the risk of remotely brute-forcing the
  password.

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1628926] Re: Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

2016-09-30 Thread Seth Arnold
The ufw frontend to iptables has an easy 'limit' command that automates
much of the tedium of installing firewall rulesets by hand. This will
address specific IPs doing brute-force login attempts but distributed
brute-force login attempts won't be affected.

There's also a pam_faildelay(8) module that does rate-limiting of users
on authentication failure.

ssh specifically is far safer when password authentication is just not
allowed; ssh keys are not useful to brute-force. Set
"PasswordAuthentication no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.

Thanks

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Title:
  Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

Status in openssh package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  ** This is a feature request that regards to security. **

  Please add to the login method a mechanism that postpones successive
  login attempts if X attempts have failed.

  Obviously this can be further enhanced - for example:
  If X successive login attempts failed, then disable that specific login 
method for that specific user for Y minutes.
  If Y minutes have passed and the additional successive attempts failed again 
- then disable that specific login method for that specific user for 2*Y 
minutes.
  And so on... 

  Values of X and Y should be configured by the 'root' user.

  Benefits: greatly reduces the risk of remotely brute-forcing the
  password.

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1628926] Re: Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

2016-09-30 Thread ChristianEhrhardt
Hi,
those two cover pretty much what you want to achieve I think:
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1409993
https://www.rackaid.com/blog/how-to-block-ssh-brute-force-attacks/

** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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Title:
  Postpone login attempts if X successive attempts have failed

Status in openssh package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  ** This is a feature request that regards to security. **

  Please add to the login method a mechanism that postpones successive
  login attempts if X attempts have failed.

  Obviously this can be further enhanced - for example:
  If X successive login attempts failed, then disable that specific login 
method for that specific user for Y minutes.
  If Y minutes have passed and the additional successive attempts failed again 
- then disable that specific login method for that specific user for 2*Y 
minutes.
  And so on... 

  Values of X and Y should be configured by the 'root' user.

  Benefits: greatly reduces the risk of remotely brute-forcing the
  password.

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