[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
OK those are different filenames to your first comment #3, which is why they don't exist... Packages like pulseaudio are intended to support multiple different distros and "flavours". Sometimes those won't have systemd. So especially if the package predates systemd, there's no reason to drop files that support the alternatives. Such files are harmless, mostly unused, and occasionally useful. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
The package "pulseaudio" contains the files: /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-enable-autospawn.conf Thus, it should be fairly obvious where I got the files from. And /etc/pulse/client.conf is ignored, despite my user (and root) not having a ~/.local/pulse directory. And why would we need files for non-systemd systems if Ubuntu _is_ a systemd-base system? So I still think something is quite wrong with the pulseaudio package. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
1. I don't know where you got that file. I don't seem to have it in Ubuntu 20.04 or 20.10. You can find out where it's from with 'dpkg -S ...' 2. Some quick Googling suggests /etc/pulse/* is the fallback for when ~/.local/pulse/* does not exist. 3. I don't know where you got that file. I don't seem to have it in Ubuntu 20.04 or 20.10. You can find out where it's from with 'dpkg -S ...' 4. It would appear that's for distros that don't use systemd. To make future bug reports easier to answer please use the command: ubuntu-bug pulseaudio to open any future bugs. Or better yet, put future questions to the PulseAudio developers instead: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/groups/pulseaudio/-/issues -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
1. I don't know where you got that file. I don't seem to have it in Ubuntu 20.04 or 20.10. You can find out where it's from with 'dpkg -S ...' 2. Some quick Googling suggests /etc/pulse/* is the fallback for when ~/.local/pulse/* does not exist. 3. I don't know where you got that file. I don't seem to have it in Ubuntu 20.04 or 20.10. You can find out where it's from with 'dpkg -S ...' 4. It would appear that's for distros that don't use systemd. To make bug future bug reports easier to answer please use the command: ubuntu-bug pulseaudio to open any future bugs. Or better yet, put future questions to the PulseAudio developers instead: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/groups/pulseaudio/-/issues -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
Thanks, that's fair enough. My remaining questions then are: 1. Why is /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio needed? 2. Why is /etc/pulse/client.conf ignored? 3. In light of 2, why is /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something needed? 4. And in light of /lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service, why is /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop needed? Wouldn't one way to start pulseaudio be sufficient? Also, please don't ignore the configuration. Finally, how can I use any of these methods to start pulseaudio in system mode? Adding -D to /lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service did not work (probably because I'm not root). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
It looks like you would need to somehow edit/disable: /lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service Also, since this is not actually a bug I am going to mark it as invalid. But you are free to keep discussing the issue here. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1899352] Re: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning
Also, as user: cassiopeia ~ > pulseaudio -k N: [pulseaudio] main.c: System mode refused for non-root user. Only starting the D-Bus server lookup service. Then, as root, with system mode running: cassiopeia:~# ps aux | grep pulse pulse 2334 0.0 0.0 239320 10568 ?Shttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1899352 Title: Pulseaudio cannot be kept from starting or respawning Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: On my freshly installed system, I need to run pulseaudio in system mode. Alas, by default, pulseaudio is run in user mode, and is set to respawn, so that I cannot kill the user process and start pulseaudio in system mode. I tried: 1. Editing /etc/pulse/client.conf, setting autospawn = no. This did nothing. 2. Removing the file /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/01-respawn-something. I cannot even begin to fathom why such a file would exist. Anyway, this did nothing. 3. I removed the file /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio. Why Of course, this did nothing. 4. I removed the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. Why on earth do you implement four different ways to annoy your users? On the other hand, this did NOTHING. User mode is still starting, and respawning is enabled. What the heck do I have to do to get rid of user mode pulseaudio? Could you please clean up this clusterfuck? To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1899352/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
