[Touch-packages] [Bug 430203] Re: bell.ogg is unresponsive (outside HIG response times) [regression]

2020-03-17 Thread Alberts Muktupāvels
** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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Title:
  bell.ogg is unresponsive (outside HIG response times) [regression]

Status in Metacity:
  Fix Released
Status in metacity package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in ubuntu-sounds package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in metacity package in Fedora:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: ubuntu-sounds

  The instantaneous beep in the default Ubuntu 9.10 preview install has
  been switched to a slow firing, and slow to repeat sound:

/usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg

  the easiest way to cause this sound to be played in anger is to open a
  Terminal (eg. gnome-terminal) and hit the backspace.

  There is an audible delay in the latency until the sound is played and
  approximately 1 second until the sound is replayed (despite the key
  repeat likely firing at over 25 Hz.

  Viewing the Vorbis file with ogginfo and mhWavedit shows that it is is
  approximately 900 milliseconds in length!

$ ogginfo /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg | grep Playback
Playback length: 0m:00.882s

  The file consists of ~50 milliseconds of silence, ~200 milliseconds of
  actual sound and then a further ~650 milliseconds of silence.

  Ideally the white space should be trimmed to the *absolute maximum*.
  The sound needs to play *immediately* to meet the requirements set of
  the HIG for interactive feedback (100 millisecond upper bound).

  If further delays are being introduced by the Vorbis loading then this
  sound (which should be immediate and responsive) should probably be
  converted to an uncompressed format.

  Failing that, the sound could be reverted to the previous short and
  quick 'bip' sound used previously.

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 430203] Re: bell.ogg is unresponsive (outside HIG response times) [regression]

2017-10-27 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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On 2009-05-01T13:20:42+00:00 Davide wrote:

Description of problem:

If multiple alert-triggering events occur too close in time, the alert
sound is only played upon the first event, whereas no alert sound is
played for the remaining alert-triggering events.

Consider the case of two successive alert-triggering events. If the
delay between the two alert events is longer than the duration of the
alert sound, two distinct alert sounds are played. If, however, the
second alert event is triggered before the sound for the first alert
event has finished playing, no alert sound for the second alert event is
played. If more than two event-triggering events occur within a time
window shorter than the duration of the alert sound, only one alert
sound is played. This is bad because all alerts but the first one
essentially vanish.

In a situation where an alert is triggered every time a given key is
pressed, pressing the key twice must lead to two alert sounds, no matter
how quickly the two keypresses are done. This way, the user receives
feedback on each of the two keypresses. Issuing a single alert sound
would leave the user without feedback about the second keypress.

In order to combine the two alert sounds, two solutions come to my mind:
1. the first alert sound is interrupted and the second alert sound is played 
immediately afterwards
2. the second alert sound is superimposed to the first one
Note that when the system beep was used for alerts (prior to the introduction 
of libcanberra (*), I think), solution 1 was in place. The first beep would be 
interrupted to give way to the second beep. The user would (sloppily speaking) 
hear "Bee-bep" and hence receive the information that two separate beeps 
had been issued.

(*) Thanks to bug 498594, this situation can currently be observed by
turning the desktop effects on.


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

As in the 2009-04-30 rawhide. In particular:
libcanberra-0.12-1.fc11.x86_64
pulseaudio-0.9.15-11.fc11.x86_64
alsa-lib-1.0.19-3.fc11.x86_64


How reproducible:

always


Steps to Reproduce:

1. Ensure desktop effects are disabled (see bug 498594) and that the sound 
theme is set to
"Default"
2. Open a gnome-terminal window
3. Push the "down" arrow very quickly two times within the gnome-terminal 
window to trigger two consecutive alert events
4. Keep the "down" arrow pressed to trigger a large number of consecutive alert 
events


Actual results:

In step 3, a single alert sound is heard.
In step 4, the alert sound is played periodically, with the period equal to the 
duration of the alert sound.


Expected results:

In step 3, two alert sounds be heard (either with the first one being 
interrupted to give way to the second one, as in solution 1, or with the second 
one superimposing on the first one, as in solution 2).
In step 4, multiple alert sounds be heard (again, either according to solution 
1 or to solution 2), with the speed at which new alert sounds are started being 
equal to the keypress repeat speed specified in the keyboard preferences.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
sounds/+bug/430203/comments/0


On 2009-06-06T08:50:40+00:00 Davide wrote:

I found more information to support my request. The GNOME Human Interface 
Guidelines contain the following:
(Source:
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/feedback-response-times.html.en)

"Verify that your application provides feedback within 100 milliseconds
(0.1 second) after each key press, movement of the mouse, or other
physical input from the user."

In the scenario described in the bug report, this clearly does not
happen.

I hope that libcanberra is the correct component to report the bug
against.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
sounds/+bug/430203/comments/1


On 2009-06-09T14:56:44+00:00 Bug wrote:


This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 11 
development cycle.
Changing version to '11'.

More information and reason for this action is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
sounds/+bug/430203/comments/2


On 2009-08-28T03:35:06+00:00 Lennart wrote:

This is actually a "feature" in metacity:

http://git.gnome.org/cgit/metacity/tree/src/core/display.c#n2387

It limits bell events