AW: [Trac] Re: Add diff renderer?
TortoiseSVN can call Word, Excel and Powerpoint with some commandline-options and two filenames, so that it displays a diff between these two files. Unfortunately I don't see a way to embed this into a web-application (except probably through ActiveX in IE). Maybe it could be done by a Firefox-Plugin? Peter -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-us...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Eirik Schwenke Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2009 18:33 An: trac-users@googlegroups.com Betreff: [Trac] Re: Add diff renderer? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Hammel skrev 07. jan. 2009 16:20: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:49:21PM -0800, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: I don't know of any libraries or other ways to parse Word documents, so no. If you are running on Windows and server has Word installed, you might be able to rig something up with COM (via the win32com module), but this isn't enough of a general case to bother IMO. All the new Office 2007 files are just zipped XML I think, so you might be able to make an HTML converter for that. Not a small task though. --Noah There is also antiword http://www.winfield.demon.nl/ This could be made into a plugin. Or I have heard rumors that OpenOffice can be driven computationally...somehow. I avoid word documents like the plague but realize this is a luxury that not everyone has. Jeff Note: None of the following is a solution to the problem, just some notes on alternate solutions; There is also catdoc (and xls2csv): http://vitus.wagner.pp.ru/software/catdoc/ For simple text documents, the strings-command also works nicely. That couldn't be too hard to reimplement in python, (for easier portability to win32 -- I believe OS X already has a strings command). However, as Noah says, even if a plugin was was made based on that, I don't think the results would've been very good. A better alternative might be to turn on change-control in word/office. After a bit of googling, it turns out the tortoise svn project has it's own diff/merge tools, from http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads: Our diff/merge tools TortoiseMerge (for text file diffs and merges), TortoiseIDiff (for diffing image files) are zipped into one package, and SubWCRev is also available. The sf-page only lists the binaries, but the code can be found at: http://gu...@tortoisesvn.tigris.org/svn/tortoisesvn/ I don't think the ImageDiff referenced over is of much interest, but apparently TortoiseSvn uses a couple of javascripts to diff doc and docx files: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/svn/tortoisesvn/trunk/contrib/other/diff-scripts/ I'm afraid I don't see any useful way this could be integrated to standard trac - -- I guess my recommendation would be to use tortoise svn against the repository trac uses. For anyone wanting to make a win-only/requires word plugin for trac, the following link might be useful: http://nicolas.lehuen.com/index.php/post/2005/06/30/60-comparing-microsoft-word-documents-stored-in-a-subversion-repository Also, while I have no experience with it myself, Diff doc migh also be of help: http://www.softinterface.com/MD\Document-Comparison-Software.htm (This would be similar to comparing the documents within word, though, not in the web front-end). Still, apart from policy, the only times it makes sense to use a rich format (be it open document, rtf, pdf, word or even html) for documentation, is when the content is in fact multimedia -- tables or images/figures adds something to the document that cannot easily be gleaned from a docbook/tex/structured text file. Then you really would need a diff-tool that understands the format in order to get meaningful diffs. See also: http://blogs.msdn.com/buckh/archive/2005/11/28/497556.aspx http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/opendocument/ Best regards, - -- .---. Eirik Schwenke eirik.schwe...@nsd.uib.no ( NSD ) Harald Hårfagresgate 29Rom 150 '---' N-5007 Bergentlf: (555) 889 13 GPG-key at pgp.mit.edu Id 0x8AA3392C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl5/1cACgkQxUW7FIqjOSyByQCeMU7OGGOkQgm6umn0pERvTCxY FIoAoJyPaICFFukBud65RRy5n3KRHWHb =qtUq -END PGP SIGNATURE- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Add diff renderer?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Hammel skrev 07. jan. 2009 16:20: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:49:21PM -0800, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: I don't know of any libraries or other ways to parse Word documents, so no. If you are running on Windows and server has Word installed, you might be able to rig something up with COM (via the win32com module), but this isn't enough of a general case to bother IMO. All the new Office 2007 files are just zipped XML I think, so you might be able to make an HTML converter for that. Not a small task though. --Noah There is also antiword http://www.winfield.demon.nl/ This could be made into a plugin. Or I have heard rumors that OpenOffice can be driven computationally...somehow. I avoid word documents like the plague but realize this is a luxury that not everyone has. Jeff Note: None of the following is a solution to the problem, just some notes on alternate solutions; There is also catdoc (and xls2csv): http://vitus.wagner.pp.ru/software/catdoc/ For simple text documents, the strings-command also works nicely. That couldn't be too hard to reimplement in python, (for easier portability to win32 -- I believe OS X already has a strings command). However, as Noah says, even if a plugin was was made based on that, I don't think the results would've been very good. A better alternative might be to turn on change-control in word/office. After a bit of googling, it turns out the tortoise svn project has it's own diff/merge tools, from http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads: Our diff/merge tools TortoiseMerge (for text file diffs and merges), TortoiseIDiff (for diffing image files) are zipped into one package, and SubWCRev is also available. The sf-page only lists the binaries, but the code can be found at: http://gu...@tortoisesvn.tigris.org/svn/tortoisesvn/ I don't think the ImageDiff referenced over is of much interest, but apparently TortoiseSvn uses a couple of javascripts to diff doc and docx files: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/svn/tortoisesvn/trunk/contrib/other/diff-scripts/ I'm afraid I don't see any useful way this could be integrated to standard trac - -- I guess my recommendation would be to use tortoise svn against the repository trac uses. For anyone wanting to make a win-only/requires word plugin for trac, the following link might be useful: http://nicolas.lehuen.com/index.php/post/2005/06/30/60-comparing-microsoft-word-documents-stored-in-a-subversion-repository Also, while I have no experience with it myself, Diff doc migh also be of help: http://www.softinterface.com/MD\Document-Comparison-Software.htm (This would be similar to comparing the documents within word, though, not in the web front-end). Still, apart from policy, the only times it makes sense to use a rich format (be it open document, rtf, pdf, word or even html) for documentation, is when the content is in fact multimedia -- tables or images/figures adds something to the document that cannot easily be gleaned from a docbook/tex/structured text file. Then you really would need a diff-tool that understands the format in order to get meaningful diffs. See also: http://blogs.msdn.com/buckh/archive/2005/11/28/497556.aspx http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/opendocument/ Best regards, - -- .---. Eirik Schwenke eirik.schwe...@nsd.uib.no ( NSD ) Harald Hårfagresgate 29Rom 150 '---' N-5007 Bergentlf: (555) 889 13 GPG-key at pgp.mit.edu Id 0x8AA3392C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl5/1cACgkQxUW7FIqjOSyByQCeMU7OGGOkQgm6umn0pERvTCxY FIoAoJyPaICFFukBud65RRy5n3KRHWHb =qtUq -END PGP SIGNATURE- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Add diff renderer?
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:49:21PM -0800, Noah Kantrowitz wrote: I don't know of any libraries or other ways to parse Word documents, so no. If you are running on Windows and server has Word installed, you might be able to rig something up with COM (via the win32com module), but this isn't enough of a general case to bother IMO. All the new Office 2007 files are just zipped XML I think, so you might be able to make an HTML converter for that. Not a small task though. --Noah There is also antiword http://www.winfield.demon.nl/ This could be made into a plugin. Or I have heard rumors that OpenOffice can be driven computationally...somehow. I avoid word documents like the plague but realize this is a luxury that not everyone has. Jeff On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:11 PM, VeChen wrote: Well,is there a trac's plug-in to show the content of .doc files in website? I could't find it on http://trac-hacks.org/ On 1月7日, 上午10时44分, Noah Kantrowitz n...@coderanger.net wrote: Those files aren't diff'd since they contain a lot of useless markup and such, and a diff wouldn't really be that helpful. If you set the svn:mimetype property to something like text/plain, Trac will at least try, but I don't think you will like the results. --Noah -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-users@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of VeChen Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:25 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] Add diff renderer? Hi all I used SVN singly ever and it can dispaly diffs (such as word,excel,ppt etc.) in website via ViewVC (compiled by python) While useing Trac ,it can only show txt or programing language files in website. How could I do if I wanna to see diffs about files as word,excel,ppt via browser. I searched for plug-ins and find TracExcelViewer who shows excel in a peculiar way,it is still inefficient on showing diffs.Is there someone give me a hand or some suggests. Thanks VeSion- 隐藏被引用文字 - - 显示引用的文字 - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Add diff renderer?
Those files aren't diff'd since they contain a lot of useless markup and such, and a diff wouldn't really be that helpful. If you set the svn:mimetype property to something like text/plain, Trac will at least try, but I don't think you will like the results. --Noah -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of VeChen Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:25 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] Add diff renderer? Hi all I used SVN singly ever and it can dispaly diffs (such as word,excel,ppt etc.) in website via ViewVC (compiled by python) While useing Trac ,it can only show txt or programing language files in website. How could I do if I wanna to see diffs about files as word,excel,ppt via browser. I searched for plug-ins and find TracExcelViewer who shows excel in a peculiar way,it is still inefficient on showing diffs.Is there someone give me a hand or some suggests. Thanks VeSion --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Add diff renderer?
Well,is there a trac's plug-in to show the content of .doc files in website? I could't find it on http://trac-hacks.org/ On 1月7日, 上午10时44分, Noah Kantrowitz n...@coderanger.net wrote: Those files aren't diff'd since they contain a lot of useless markup and such, and a diff wouldn't really be that helpful. If you set the svn:mimetype property to something like text/plain, Trac will at least try, but I don't think you will like the results. --Noah -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of VeChen Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:25 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] Add diff renderer? Hi all I used SVN singly ever and it can dispaly diffs (such as word,excel,ppt etc.) in website via ViewVC (compiled by python) While useing Trac ,it can only show txt or programing language files in website. How could I do if I wanna to see diffs about files as word,excel,ppt via browser. I searched for plug-ins and find TracExcelViewer who shows excel in a peculiar way,it is still inefficient on showing diffs.Is there someone give me a hand or some suggests. Thanks VeSion- 隐藏被引用文字 - - 显示引用的文字 - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Add diff renderer?
I don't know of any libraries or other ways to parse Word documents, so no. If you are running on Windows and server has Word installed, you might be able to rig something up with COM (via the win32com module), but this isn't enough of a general case to bother IMO. All the new Office 2007 files are just zipped XML I think, so you might be able to make an HTML converter for that. Not a small task though. --Noah On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:11 PM, VeChen wrote: Well,is there a trac's plug-in to show the content of .doc files in website? I could't find it on http://trac-hacks.org/ On 1月7日, 上午10时44分, Noah Kantrowitz n...@coderanger.net wrote: Those files aren't diff'd since they contain a lot of useless markup and such, and a diff wouldn't really be that helpful. If you set the svn:mimetype property to something like text/plain, Trac will at least try, but I don't think you will like the results. --Noah -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-users@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of VeChen Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:25 PM To: Trac Users Subject: [Trac] Add diff renderer? Hi all I used SVN singly ever and it can dispaly diffs (such as word,excel,ppt etc.) in website via ViewVC (compiled by python) While useing Trac ,it can only show txt or programing language files in website. How could I do if I wanna to see diffs about files as word,excel,ppt via browser. I searched for plug-ins and find TracExcelViewer who shows excel in a peculiar way,it is still inefficient on showing diffs.Is there someone give me a hand or some suggests. Thanks VeSion- 隐藏被引用文字 - - 显示引用的文字 - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
