[Trac] Re: OForge 2008.06 Announcement
On Jun 20, 4:56 pm, Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rupert thurner wrote: do you plan to release your plugins so that they install with the usual easy_installhttp://oforge.com/.../someplugin; also? rupert We have talked about it, but the issue is that we have forked some of the plugins, so how to handle that? Maybe we could just document it and recommend using --prefix to install in a non-default location. If this would help user acceptance, then we will invest the time. Take a look at the install from source instructions, they are really not that difficult. personally i like to document the installation like here: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu. at the end of the page there are a few easy-installs. this avoids install from source instructions completely, difficult or not. for the fork: everybody is free to choose the plugin that better fits the needs, be it the original or the oforge one. but installing 2 times the same plugin with only a slight difference anyway does not make much sense. rupert. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: OForge 2008.06 Announcement
rupert thurner wrote: On Jun 13, 7:33 pm, Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, The OForge team would like to announce it's first public release, OForge 2008.06. OForge is a Trac-based enterprise collaboration tool that helps development teams work together to assemble great software. As many of you know, setting up a multi-project Trac server can be difficult for beginners. Not to mention the trouble of installing the right plugins and being sure they will work properly. OForge aims to be a Trac distribution of sorts. Unlike some similar projects, we aim to not fork from Trac or trac-hacks, but to be active members of the community. The advantage of using OForge is that you will get a tested, do you plan to release your plugins so that they install with the usual easy_install http://oforge.com/.../someplugin; also? rupert We have talked about it, but the issue is that we have forked some of the plugins, so how to handle that? Maybe we could just document it and recommend using --prefix to install in a non-default location. If this would help user acceptance, then we will invest the time. Take a look at the install from source instructions, they are really not that difficult. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: OForge 2008.06 Announcement
2008/6/20 Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] the issue is that we have forked some of the plugins, [...] What were the reasons for forking? Would be nice to explain it on your website. Will you invest some time bringing your changes back to 'upstream'? Plugins have pros and cons, but one downside is that people might become confused if there slightly different yet not different named plugins out there (and they might even get annoyed after creating a patch for one of them and later discovering that there is another one, with the problem already solved ;) ) Up to now, at least trac-hacks was kind of semi-official. - Thomas so how to handle that? Maybe we could just document it and recommend using --prefix to install in a non-default location. If this would help user acceptance, then we will invest the time. Take a look at the install from source instructions, they are really not that difficult. -- Thomas Moschny [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: OForge 2008.06 Announcement
Thomas Moschny wrote: 2008/6/20 Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] the issue is that we have forked some of the plugins, [...] What were the reasons for forking? Would be nice to explain it on your website. Will you invest some time bringing your changes back to 'upstream'? Plugins have pros and cons, but one downside is that people might become confused if there slightly different yet not different named plugins out there (and they might even get annoyed after creating a patch for one of them and later discovering that there is another one, with the problem already solved ;) ) Up to now, at least trac-hacks was kind of semi-official. I'm so glad you asked. Yes. One of our stated goals is to not fork anything. We have tried very hard to push all changes upstream, but sometimes it doesn't work out. We may decide to adopt some of the plugins we have forked. I have inquired about a couple, but haven't received definitive responses. All forks are explained in on the wiki[1] and in the source[2]. The source will always be more up-to-date. We do need to maintain our per-plugin wiki pages better. We would like to keep hosting them on our own site, but probably just make a page on trac-hacks pointing to our site. [1] http://code.optaros.com/trac/oforge/wiki/OForgeConfiguration [2] http://code.optaros.com/svn/oforge/trunk/forks/fork-notes.txt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: OForge 2008.06 Announcement
2008/6/20 Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm so glad you asked. Yes. One of our stated goals is to not fork anything. We have tried very hard to push all changes upstream, but sometimes it doesn't work out. We may decide to adopt some of the plugins we have forked. I have inquired about a couple, but haven't received definitive responses. All forks are explained in on the wiki[1] and in the source[2]. Thanks for the pointers. However, while the new features/changes for the forks are listed there, it is not in all cases clear why a fork was inevitable (not to blame you, just noticing). [...] but probably just make a page on trac-hacks pointing to our site. It would be good to add pointers to the forked plugins on t-h.org anyway, so people find them and can benefit from your improvements. Regards, Thomas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: OForge 2008.06 Announcement
On Jun 13, 7:33 pm, Robert C Corsaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, The OForge team would like to announce it's first public release, OForge 2008.06. OForge is a Trac-based enterprise collaboration tool that helps development teams work together to assemble great software. As many of you know, setting up a multi-project Trac server can be difficult for beginners. Not to mention the trouble of installing the right plugins and being sure they will work properly. OForge aims to be a Trac distribution of sorts. Unlike some similar projects, we aim to not fork from Trac or trac-hacks, but to be active members of the community. The advantage of using OForge is that you will get a tested, do you plan to release your plugins so that they install with the usual easy_install http://oforge.com/.../someplugin; also? rupert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Trac Users group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
