Re: [Trisquel-users] Photo Print sites that don't use flash
Well I found one site that doesn't seem to ever ask for flash player so I've decided to go ahead and use it. It seems like a decent site but to avoid promoting sites that have nothing to do with free software or Trisquel I'm not going to post the URL. If anyone wants to know then just PM me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Considering Trisquel. I Have Questions
To change your UI fonts, you can go to Trisquel Menu → System Settings, select "Advanced Settings", on the side menu select "Fonts", and click on the setting for "Default Font". You should be able to change your font size system-wide.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?
It's the administrator forum account, I think.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
http://www.gluglug.org.uk/contact/ The form requires a name, but you can use a fake one, such as "Sudo Nymn".
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
"It's not clear what measures Francis Rowe is taking with respect to CPU microcode."
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
Very tempted by the Gluglug X60, but the following concerns are preventing me from purchasing one: (1) It's not clear what measures Francis Rowe is taking with respect to CPU microcode. There are three options: (1A) Provide no microcode. BAD option, because of the serious bugs in Core Solo/Duo/2 Duo: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631&w=2 (1B) Provide closed-source (e.g. Intel) microcode. BAD option, because that may introduce other bugs undisclosed by Intel and perhaps unknown to anyone else because of being closed-source (unless researchers have e.g. fuzzed the microcode-upgraded CPUs - has anyone done this?). (1C) Provide open-source microcode. GOOD option, but I don't know whether any such thing yet exists for the CPUs used by the X60(s). Anyone here know whether such a thing exists? (2) Order form at http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/checkout/ requires full name and billing address for payment, but is by default served over HTTP. I don't like sending such information in the clear. (3) Order form at https://shop.gluglug.org.uk/checkout/ (note the "s"!) has a certificate mismatch: it sends a certificate from a completely different domain (*.ispnoc.net). I don't fancy sending my full name and billing address to a site perhaps masquerading as another site! (4) http://who.is/whois/gluglug.org.uk states that gluglug.org.uk is registered to Francis Rowe, and says, "The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service." Yet if Rowe/Gluglug is selling laptops, then clearly the registrant is trading. (5) According to http://who.is/whois/gluglug.org.uk , ns2.ispnoc.net is a nameserver for gluglug.org.uk , but according to http://whois.net/whois/ispnoc.net , ispnoc.net is registered to "DC Koop" in the Netherlands, and does not appear to have anything to do with Francis Rowe or Gluglug or with gluglug.org.uk's registrar, lcn.com.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
"1.I must understand how it works "under hood". My understanding must vary from very abstract concepts to detail comprehension of every "cogwheel", according to my needs. 2.If I encounter a problem, then I should be able to solve it on my own, without help of other people. In ideal, even without Internet." I don't think it's possible to understand a system to this extent.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
"proprietary MS-DOS... "There is FreeDOS, but I heard it relies upon a proprietary compiler.
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
Actually, what i did right after unplugging the ethernet was: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up sudo iwconfig essid "essid" (the wpa_supplicant couldn't assign an essid to wlan0 or something?)
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
Unplugged ethernet
sudo killall wpa_supplicant
sudo wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -D nl80211 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
sudo dhclient wlan0
called ping www.startpage.com about 20 times, and suddenly by some miracle it
started receiving.
I don't the reason to why it suddenly started working,
but i think it might be the config file as i think that was the last thing i
changed (or just that i did not tell wpa_supplicant to run in background mode
with the option -D)?
Thanks all for your help!
wpa_supplicant.conf
network={
ssid="ssid"
#psk="passphrase"
proto=WPA
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=passphrase_no_quotes_surrounding_it
}
Re: [Trisquel-users] HTPC Controlled By Gamepad - Home/Launcher Button
lembas: I found /etc/X11/xorg.conf and inserted the section (assuming "whatever" means whatever I put the was inconsequential). xev still did not notice buttonpresses from my controller. I double-checked with evtest and it's still sending input. I guess with this I'm trying to get my X server to notice input from my controller (much like it grabs input from mouse and keyboard). That would be great, because "polling" with watch/evtest seems terribly inefficient to me, and I could throw the XBMC start script into my xbindkeysrc file. I know nothing about configuring Xorg. If I did maybe I could poke around and get this idea to work.
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
I tried to connect and got the same error messages. I tried many different configuration file options and got it working. I can no longer reproduce what happened the first time, but here is what I have learned. If your desktop is running, you need to kill nm-applet. You also need to kill all wpa_supplicant processes. I can now connect with only SSID and psk in the configuration file. I still get the errors. sudo wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument Trying to associate with MAC_ADDRESS (SSID='MY_SSID' freq=2467 MHz) Associated with MAC_ADDRESS WPA: Key negotiation completed with MAC_ADDRESS [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP] CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to MAC_ADDRESS completed (auth) [id=0 id_str=]
Re: [Trisquel-users] Considering Trisquel. I Have Questions
În 2013-12-23 01:27, george.stand...@ncf.ca a scris: i'm just replying regarding the wireless (i have no idea about the default DE, I don't use it) - by the sounds of it, your wireless card is NOT supported by Trisquel. If it worked, you'd see wireless networks listed - i use the livecd (on USB really) to test wireless hardware for support - if nothing is listed = it's not supported. best of luck. And that's probably because the wireless card of this laptop requires nonfree software. Trisquel is a free distro, which means it doesn't include any nonfree software, because it respects users' freedom to control their own computer. If your wireless card doesn't work with free software, it means its vendor wants to have control over its users (that's you!) and you should change it with another card which works with free software or you can add a wireless adapter on USB. Useful links: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html http://www.gnu.org/distros/distros.html http://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en http://h-node.org/notebooks/catalogue/en https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Considering Trisquel. I Have Questions
i'm just replying regarding the wireless (i have no idea about the default DE, I don't use it) - by the sounds of it, your wireless card is NOT supported by Trisquel. If it worked, you'd see wireless networks listed - i use the livecd (on USB really) to test wireless hardware for support - if nothing is listed = it's not supported. best of luck.
[Trisquel-users] Considering Trisquel. I Have Questions
I loaded Trisquel for the first time on a USB thumb drive and booted it. The colors and windows are pleasant. I have some questions about Trisquel before installing it. In the folders window, where all of the different folders are laid out, can the size of the text be made larger? It seems that every window and even in the start-up window controls, the font size is much too small for me. I see that the icons can be made larger but nothing about the text of the controls. I don't see how to make the icons in the start menu larger. How does one connect the wireless WiFi? I went to the network area and selected wireless. This machine didn't search for the open networks and list them for me. I saw that my external antenna light was not blinking or even on. In Ubuntu 13.04 my WiFi antenna turns on when the computer turns on. It also recognizes all of the signals in the area. I can't really install Trisquel until the WiFi works. I use my machine for accessing the internet.
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
Thanks for that info. The following is the output of using both the wext driver and the nl80211 driver with the -d (debug option). (Though i do not understand most of it) in terminal(with wext driver): wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d the error i had originally was due to the driver it seems: "Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT" ( at line 14 and 17 in the output ) output: Priority group 0 id=0 ssid='ssid' WEXT: cfg80211-based driver detected SIOCGIWRANGE: WE(compiled)=22 WE(source)=21 enc_capa=0xf capabilities: key_mgmt 0xf enc 0xf flags 0x0 netlink: Operstate: linkmode=1, operstate=5 Own MAC address: "mac_address" wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=0 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=1 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=2 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=3 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=4 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT wpa_driver_wext_set_key: alg=0 key_idx=5 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT wpa_driver_wext_set_countermeasures RSN: flushing PMKID list in the driver Setting scan request: 0 sec 10 usec WPS: UUID based on MAC address - hexdump(len=16): 15 69 10 06 d8 1b 52 48 ae 0b cd c3 06 5c e4 33 EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED EAPOL: Supplicant port status: Unauthorized EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE EAPOL: SUPP_BE entering state INITIALIZE EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED EAPOL: Supplicant port status: Unauthorized EAPOL: Supplicant port status: Unauthorized Added interface wlan0 Daemonize.. in terminal(with nl80211 driver): wpa_supplicant -K -B -i wlan0 -D nl80211 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d when using the "nl80211" driver, the two erros i have with wext are not generated: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument output: Priority group 0 id=0 ssid='ssid' netlink: Operstate: linkmode=1, operstate=5 nl80211: Register Action command failed: ret=-114 (Operation already in progress) nl80211: Register Action match - hexdump(len=1): 06 nl80211: Failed to register Action frame processing - ignore for now Own MAC address: "mac_address" wpa_driver_nl80211_set_key: ifindex=5 alg=0 addr=0x80e5d68 key_idx=0 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_nl80211_set_key: ifindex=5 alg=0 addr=0x80e5d68 key_idx=1 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_nl80211_set_key: ifindex=5 alg=0 addr=0x80e5d68 key_idx=2 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_nl80211_set_key: ifindex=5 alg=0 addr=0x80e5d68 key_idx=3 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_nl80211_set_key: ifindex=5 alg=0 addr=0x80e5d68 key_idx=4 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 wpa_driver_nl80211_set_key: ifindex=5 alg=0 addr=0x80e5d68 key_idx=5 set_tx=0 seq_len=0 key_len=0 RSN: flushing PMKID list in the driver Setting scan request: 0 sec 10 usec WPS: UUID based on MAC address - hexdump(len=16): 15 69 10 06 d8 1b 52 48 ae 0b cd c3 06 5c e4 33 EAPOL: SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED EAPOL: Supplicant port status: Unauthorized EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE EAPOL: SUPP_BE entering state INITIALIZE EAP: EAP entering state DISABLED EAPOL: Supplicant port status: Unauthorized EAPOL: Supplicant port status: Unauthorized Added interface wlan0 Daemonize.. To me at least, it seems that using the nl80211 driver generated less errors. However there appears to be unauthorized access to something (as when using both drivers). Do you know maybe to what the access is denied?
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
Are i3, i5 and i7 processors of any generation not able to be endorsed?
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
Oh ok, thanks. Now i get the same error message as in my first post again.
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
Your .conf looks a bit simple. Sure you don't have to provide additional info about the type of encryption etc.? Better have a look at the manual of the config file. I used wpa_supplicant only once in order to establish my network connection without gui but as far as I remember there was a lot more stuff in the .conf
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: wpa_supplicant (...)
https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/2703 It says that "The problem is that a precomputed hex PSK must not be quoted."
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: wpa_supplicant (...)
Do you have the same error message? I never used wpa_supplicant but your error said that something is wrong with your arguments. Maybe it's the ordering of your arguments. "-d" is the debug modus. Try wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D wext -dd I have read that "nl80211" is preferred over "wext". Can you try it?
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
I get another error message now, after i edited the psk to be surrounded double quotes(psk="passphrase") in wpa_supplicant.conf (as it was not originally, even though it is shown in double quotes in the "content of wpa_supplicant.conf" in my first post, it is for sure now (as i read somewhere that it should be). in terminal: wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf output: Line 2: Invalid passphrase length 64 (expected: 8..63) 'passphrase"'. Line 2: failed to parse psk '"passphrase"'. Line 5: WPA-PSK accepted for key management, but no PSK configured. Line 5: failed to parse network block. Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Re: [Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
No that don't work.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
În 2013-12-22 22:43, gnu...@lavabit.com a scris: one more thing: it is related to the thread itself. There are people who want to ban users simply because they talk about "non-free software". The problem is, the definition of "free software" is a little too vague. For me Debian is free, for other people it is not. Free Software is defined in the Free Software Definition written by RMS for the GNU Project and first published in the 80's. It is the definition used by the Trisquel project for free software (as stated in the Trisquel Community Guidelines) and any other (personal) definition of free software is out of the scope of this community. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html A distribution is not only one piece of software, it's a collection of software. For a certain piece of software it is clear if it's free or not based on the licenses of all its components and the Free Software Definition. If theoretically (considering the software licenses) and practically (considering the technicalities of building and running a modified version) the user has all the four rights defined in the Free Software Definition on the entire software she runs in compiled, binary format, then it's free software. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html For a software distribution (a system distribution is a subtype of software distribution) you need to check all the software that is distributed if it's free software to decide whether the distribution is free or not. If the distribution also includes non-free software even in other repositories which are maintained by the distribution project and which are documented by the distribution project, that that distribution is not solely a distribution of free software, thus it's a not (entirely) a free distribution. (I call it a corrupt distribution; corrupted by the convenience of proprietary software above software freedom). The FSF has compiled a list of guidelines for a free software distribution (it might not be complete) based on the issues found already in the common distributions. Examples: Firefox Add-ons (found at addons.mozilla.org) is a software distribution which is not free, because it includes nonfree extensions for Firefox. In a similar manner, Debian GNU/Linux is a system distribution which is not free, because it includes nonfree firmware and other nonfree software. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?
What about the account called Trisquel ?
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: wpa_supplicant (...)
Maybe you need a space between "-D" and "wext"?
[Trisquel-users] wpa_supplicant (...)
I decided i wanted to know how to connect to a wpa protected wireless network
without the need of a gui program.
Though, i have encountered some issues of which i'd appreciate some help
with.
wpa_passphrase "ssid" "password" > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
content of wpa_supplicant.conf:
network={
ssid="ssid"
#psk="password"
psk="password"
}
run in terminal (to connect to wireless network):
wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
output:
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
I have searched on the internet for this output, but i cannot find a
solution.
Are any of you familiar with wpa_supplicant, and have a possible solution?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
În 2013-12-22 22:40, gnu...@lavabit.com a scris: Also, as you can see in the link I posted above, those are not part of Debian project. Those repos are hosted at debian.org and official documentation at debian.org recommends adding those repos and using proprietary software, even when free software is avaiable (see Atheros firmware) "Firmware is required, which can be provided by installing the firmware-atheros package" and only after, "Open firmware for this driver is also available." (also notice "open") "Installation: Add a "non-free" component to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example: http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free" That's why Debian is not a free distribution, it's a corrupt distribution like most of the GNU+Linux distributions out there. And just like corrupt politicians, they pretend to be ethical and they make efforts to improve their public image to get rid of the critics, without solving the real problem: their corruption. They just improve the presentation, but the substance is still the same. In Romanian this is called "formă fără fond". -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Forum moderation
An explanation for why Debian isn't endorsed by the FSF can be found here https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
I started with Ubuntu 10.04, later moved to Mint 13, after that Trisquel 6 and now use Debian 7. On my way I also used some other distros in specific ocasions (Tails and Puppy). Debian: -removing non-free/contrib: no need to remove something that is not there to start with! If you already used Debian, you know when you install Debian, it only provides you the main (free) rep. You cannot remove the other reps, you would have to add them in the first place! Also, as you can see in the link I posted above, those are not part of Debian project. -linux-libre: The Debian kernel has NO blobs (you can confirm this in the FSF website if you wish). So, no problem using either their kernel or linux-libre kernel. Also, Debian gives you the possibility to use HURD, which is another FAIF kernel. So, no problem with the kernel. Excuse, what is the point of FSF being against Debian again? -.^ maybe (as you can see in the link above) it is actually related to the fact that some of the people who develop Debian are employes at places that work with proprietary software Just a thought that popped into my head. Maybe the problem is not Debian itself, maybe the FSF is just unfriends with the people behind the project.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
one more thing: it is related to the thread itself. There are people who want to ban users simply because they talk about "non-free software". The problem is, the definition of "free software" is a little too vague. For me Debian is free, for other people it is not.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software alternatives to popular Wingdows software
Glabel is really really good. I will use that from now on. I just printed a label to identify a usb hdd. The thing to make your own design is great, better than publisher. If I had known about this when I was printing labels for a optical disk with publisher... What happened is a used the wrong template, with publisher, and it was somewhat missaligned.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Very nice arguments to tell others about Trisquel
It is great
Re: [Trisquel-users] Has development on Trisquel 7 started?
Rubén is also a Spanish name
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
Ahh, no I got it. Obviously the whole thing was a big misunderstanding. I originally thought the most important thing for you is freedom in a digital society. But the biggest goal for you is "the fsf endorsement". "(...) then this will make Trisquel lose it's endorsement from FSF." I don't see any reason why this should bother anyone in the slightest. "You are actually worse than trolls. " Bad news for you: "3. Personal attacks: We don't tolerate personal attacks here. We encourage discussion. Disagree with others and challenge their ideas. Don't feed the trolls. Please report any flaming/flame-baiting to a moderator using the contact page." If you're a consequent man, you should leave the forum now. You violated the guidelines several times. And please correct the community guidelines beforehand: you should delete the term "the free software movement" and write "the gnu homepage" instead. Otherwise many trolls like me will come along, daring to talk about freedom.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
i've just come from using debian to trisquel - because I wanted to support a faif-distro. all i want for x-mas/grav-mas is a debian-stable fork with non-free and contrib removed, and s/linux/linux-libre/ until debian removes contrib/non-free (which i doubt will ever happen) there is no hope of fsf endorsing them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libby/m/stefano-zacchiroli/ If you watch this video, you will notice that Debian has always tried to maintain a healthy environment on their development strategy, has freedom as a main priority and have been trying to get the FSF endorsement for years. They have made a lot of changes to the system, and are willing to discuss some others with the FSF. If the FSF will just keep repeating the same lines over and over, without trying to "open" a little bit to accept Debian's own ideas, of course there will never be any possible endorsment (even though the Debian team endorses the FSF work, not the other way around). I understand that RMS and FSF feel strongly about these matters, they have been in the fight for 30 years now, but honestly they can't really keep rejecting Debian and not exepect people to complain about it. It is a petty political argument because it is not based on any "strong sustainable dangerous threat on free software".
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
They keep the prices coming up until they see that people will stop buying. When that happens, they lower it a little bit again, and keep selling the most units at the highest price. So, yeah, they will make tons of money from people who want freedom, but a lot of people won't have freedom because the prices are so high... I can't consider it a good thing, and maybe it would be enough for the FSF to cancel it's certification. But it's just my opinion of course. I have changed my mind about buying one for myself that's for sure.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
Supply and demand. you know. Makes me happy to see an ethical business doing well. Might buy me one when this current lapper dies.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
The price has been raised by £20 again. Now IBM Lenovo ThinkPad X60 (w/ coreboot) costs £218+ IBM Lenovo ThinkPad X60 (w/ coreboot) (w/o extras) costs £198+
Re: [Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France
What about buying a Chromebook? They're cheap, available locally from France, and compared to ThinkPenguin, Chromebook's BIOS'es are based on Coreboot. Also, all the post-Pixel models (including the Pixel itself) comes with SeaBIOS, which means that you can directly install Trisquel without any workarounds. Depending on your budged, I can recommend you the HP Chromebook 14 (EUR 315-324), which comes with a nice big screen, and a great price/performance ratio. It's also the closest you can get if you want a recent free software laptop. As always, there are some downsides: - an "OS verification" screen will pop-up at every boot-up (use suspend, flash a custom BIOS, or just press Ctrl+D to skip it) - the SSD is mSATA (upgradable, but will cost you much more than a regular 2,5" SSD; use an external HDD) - touchpad may not work as good as in ChromeOS at first, but this is common, and can be fixed - the 4GB memory is integrated (this doesn't really matter, since the capacity is sufficient) - the integrated bluetooth chip is non-free (like the AR5B195, which comes with Gluglug X60; use an external BT dongle)
Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books
This thread might interest you. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/free-software-running-e-book-reader-now-made-possible
Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
În 2013-12-22 15:03, shiret...@web.de a scris: 1.) Who is "the free software movement" exactly and who defines its values? http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-intro.html I doubt you have evidence for this so most of your accusations have no base Read the pages at gnu.org linked in the Trisquel Community Guidelines: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#ProprietarySoftware http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html 2.) You might interprete my words as a personal attack. I don't see why this should be the case. I compared the values you expressed in your posts with a historical group of people. I am sure you are a victim of my interpretation and nobody else considers you have made a personal attack, trying to invalidate my arguments by discrediting me (presenting me as a false pretender). By the way, you called many people "trolls" in here. But there are more and they know they are not free software supporters and they don't follow the Trisquel Community Guidelines. Instead they are publicly working against the free software movement using this forum. You are actually worse than trolls. A troll is breaking rules for the fun of it. You break rules in an attempt to move this community away from the free software movement. Trisquel asked to be endorsed by FSF and it cannot stay this way if the project doesn't follow the Guidelines for Free System Distributions. Excerpts: Please Teach Users about Free Software: To establish lasting freedom, just giving users freedom isn't sufficient. It is necessary also to teach them to understand what it means and to demand it. Documentation that encourages users of the free software to install nonfree software is not [acceptable]. Also, you're trying to impose cencorship, which clearly violates the community guidelines: "keep in mind the spirit of free software and the GNU/Linux system." This spirit doesn't mean you should be free to attack the free software movement, violate the Code of Conduct and intentionally fail to follow the Trisquel Community Guidelines. If you continue to attack the principles of the free software movement using this communication channel, to justify proprietary software and to recommend nonfree software and corrupt distributions which include nonfree software, without being stopped in time, then this will make Trisquel lose it's endorsement from FSF. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
You're permanently defining meaning of words yourself. 1.) Who is "the free software movement" exactly and who defines its values? I doubt you have evidence for this so most of your accusations have no base 2.) You might interprete my words as a personal attack. I don't see why this should be the case. I compared the values you expressed in your posts with a historical group of people. By the way, you called many people "trolls" in here. I think this is a Violation of rule #3 of the Code of Conduct: "Personal attacks: We don't tolerate personal attacks here." Also, you're trying to impose cencorship, which clearly violates the community guidelines: "keep in mind the spirit of free software and the GNU/Linux system." Better ban yourself.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
În 2013-12-22 13:48, shiret...@web.de a scris: Hey man, are you the sheriff in here? Could you please provide some evidence that you're the person in charge for forum moderation? Why do you think you have any authority in here? I don't, Trisquel Community Guidelines have authority here. https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines I'm in this forum now for a 3/4 year and you were never participating. And I am a free software activist for 7 years. None of this is of no relevance. You don't follow this community's guidelines. Now you come around telling everyone who should get banned By now, I have formally proposed that only gnuser should be banned. and who should not say this and that. I am merely posting here the guidelines and rules of conduct which are violated. I already explained to you why I never signed any contract to never speak against the fsf, though I joined this forum and though trisquel (the distribution) is fsf endorsed (I don't know why this should affect the members of the community anyway). You are confusing FSF with the Free Software Movement. Attacks on the movement cannot be tolerated in this project since "The Trisquel project is part of the Free Software Movement." (See Trisquel Community Guidelines) You provided the argument that you call yourself a "computer scientist" and "write programs", ignoring the fact that you as an individual don't prove anything for the general situation. This was not an argument and I didn't use myself as a model since I didn't say anything about my activity. I simply gave everybody the information that I am in the field of computer programming and I am not telling stories I heard from programmers. After all I don't see a chance for you to change your pharisee-like Violation of rule #3 of the Code of Conduct: "Personal attacks: We don't tolerate personal attacks here." -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel be flagged for investigation by NSA?
On the news, it said that the NSA targets had been revealled - about 1000 organisations http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-25468263 I could not find the document with the targets on the internet, but if anyone does then we would know. It would not surprise me if the FSF was on that list.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
>With a proprietary system you cannot find out. Code is not available, can be obfuscated and you might be breaking the law if you try to find out how something works. With Trisquel you're welcome to browse the code, with an occasional comment or two and won't run into any legal issues. I can find information about proprietary system with help of (un)official documentation and reverse engineering. For example, MS-DOS is very small and simple system, so experienced programmer could analyze it easily and completely. On other hand, nobody has enough of lifespan to do complete analyze of Trisquel source codes on his/her own. Figuratively, decryption of one encrypted book needs less efforts than reading of whole library of normal books.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
"Double personality or you are acting as part of a troll team, with quantumgravity (shiretoko) as your sidekick (and from what I see, with few more showing their interests in joining you)." Hey man, are you the sheriff in here? Could you please provide some evidence that you're the person in charge for forum moderation? Why do you think you have any authority in here? I'm in this forum now for a 3/4 year and you were never participating. Now you come around telling everyone who should get banned and who should not say this and that. I already explained to you why I never signed any contract to never speak against the fsf, though I joined this forum and though trisquel (the distribution) is fsf endorsed (I don't know why this should affect the members of the community anyway). You ignored almost every of my arguments with a huge post of belony, just repeating the original claims I was arguing against (prop. software developers should simply get another job, they don't starve... this was the whole point of my discussion and you just repeated it). You provided the argument that you call yourself a "computer scientist" and "write programs", ignoring the fact that you as an individual don't prove anything for the general situation. You continued with this style of discussion when replying to roboq6, providing terrible ideas about ethics which would cost me many hours of my life to argue against. After all I don't see a chance for you to change your pharisee-like viewpoint and I won't try to help you, but please just resume your old habits and put the sheriff-star back in your bag.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
>Who is making you use google/NSA? I use google because of relevant results. Maybe this is my fault, because my search skill not-so-good, but facts are facts. For example, yesterday I was searching "activ тариф джуни". Duckduckgo showed me only irrelevant trash. >Who is making you not try to understand the instructions? >who is making you not try to understand the instructions? I often try to properly understand problem/reasons of problems/solution, but alas, my knoweldge and education are not as good as I want. For example, I have no idea how force my OS to see Android phone as media storage. Maybe I could figure out the solution if I know how udev works. But, udev isn't thing in itself. Udev is only ONE subsustym(and it have alternatives!) in Linux system. And Linux system isn't thing-in-itself too. It have links with hardware, with other computers via Internet, etc. Thus, hypothetical book "Complete Udev Guideline for dummies" would have some bits of information about Internet, technical standarts, history of computers, so on. But there are two BIG problems. 1. Alas, I don't have this wonderful book. Thus, I must find all related material on my own, collect the crumbs to solve the jigsaw puzzle. 2. I have no idea how long my adventure will continue. One month? One year? Or maybe the whole life?
Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books
No e-readers for me then. Thank you for the information Mr Maslowski.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems
În 2013-12-22 12:09, aaz...@mail.ru a scris: Excuse me, but did you ever heard of so-called "situational ethics"? There aren't absolute unethical actions. There are a lot of examples of absolute unethical actions. Human slavery is one of them and it's forbidden by international human rights treaties and it's fought against it all over the world. For example, I consider meat is unethical in my current situation. I don't care what you do in your personal life, nor should you about what I do in mine. If I use public software libraries to develop a piece of software to fit my needs and I am its sole user because I don't release it to the public (nor I give it to acquaintances), it's no business of yours. It doesn't affect you that I write and use my not-released software. Free or nonfree labels don't apply for this piece of software. But if I would need meat for my survival, then I will eat it. Even if it will be a human meat. This will not justify cannibalism, which is an unethical practice by all standards. And nobody can force anybody to take so-called "ethical job". No individual can, but a law can. Many states consider prostitution to be unethical and the forbid it by laws. Regardless of what you think (that is ethical or not), it is forbidden by law. And the policemen are enforcing the law. The same goes with drug trafficking. However, because there is no such a law and proprietary software distribution is legal, nobody can ask policemen to give fines to software companies for restricting users and to take into custody proprietary software managers and developers. But what we in the free software community is to blame people who help enslaving users. We need to condemn all proprietary software practices. And we should never take proprietary software developers' side, like they are some poor computer scientists who only follow orders because otherwise they (and their family) would starve and die of hunger. That is her/his personal decision. Her/his personal decision affects other people, because (s)he is working on user subjugating software. It can be the personal decision of a President or a Prime Minister to declare war on a neighbouring country and the law can allow this, because it's her/his right by Constitution. But this doesn't mean it doesn't affect tens, hundreds of millions of people and that is ethical, instead of negotiating and peacefully settling any differences between the two countries. Beside, meat is ethical in YOUR opinion. I raise a sheep and sacrifice it and eat it. It doesn't affect you. Whether what I am doing is ethical or not for you, it doesn't hurt you I eat my sheep. I write a piece of software for myself and I use it all my life without releasing it. It doesn't affect you. Whether what I am doing is ethical or not for you, it doesn't hurt you I use my software only for myself. In contrast, if I write a piece of software and I make it public (I release it) under a proprietary license and you use my software, it affects you. I am unethical and you can clearly see that, because I don't allow you to install it on multiple machines and to modify it to better serve your needs. My personal decision is affecting you, me being an unethical software developer hurts you as a my software user. I have control over you and we are both humans. You depend only on me and that's wrong. I am anti-social with you and you can see that. I have only one choice. I must convince you that giving up meat will fit your egotistical interests. For example, "You know, in average vegetarians have longer lifespan than meat-eaters, blah-blah-blah". Right. And if that's why I would avoid meat, it doesn't mean I would never eat meat again. I can let go to 10 additional minutes of my life for a special occasion, like at a dinner with my parents whom I didn't see for a whole year or a reunion with my former colleagues from university whom I didn't see for 10 years. The same goes with alcohol, tobacco and so on. Practical reasons (even if they are true) are not enough for a human being to not do something, like eating meat or using/developing proprietary software. It's not a strong enough reason, because we humans don't always follow doctors' orders. But we certainly don't want to live with the guilt of doing something unethical which will haunt us for the rest of our lives, like eating human meat. That is because we have conscience. That is also true for FSF-lovers movement. Don't forget you are using one of free software movement's forums of a FSF-endorsed free distribution of GNU+Linux. You are using this forum to attack the reason while Trisquel is developed, to challenge the free software philosophy and to turn our users' interest away from the free software movement to the "open source" camp. You are directly and shamelessly working publicly against the free software movement using it's own communica
Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books
Some ereaders with EInk displays were supported by OpenInkpot, they are hard to find now and the project development stopped. All other free software support for such devices that I know about is running a GNU/Linux system inside the original nonfree system. Improving this might be difficult. A Replicant-supported phone or tablet might be an easier freedom friendly solution, if LCD or AMOLED is ok for you. pgpddVA5idmIW.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books
Greetings. I'm interesting in purchasing an electronic book so I could read books from project Gutenberg where I want. Is there a freedom friendly model I could buy? Thank you
Re: [Trisquel-users] A uqestion about a WIFI pasword
Hello,thank you for your responses. I have to say that I never considered to provide a Tor relay, and I cannot do so because I am only at house in a short period of time and I could not maintain the relay. Also, I could not share th WIFI because that decision is not entirely mine. But I will consider your proposals in the future. Thank you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
>Because if I encounter a problem, then often I forced to google solution and blindly use instructions. Without proper understanding, like magic. Why? Who is making you use google/NSA? Who is making you not try to understand the instructions? It's crazy to follow random instructions one doesn't clearly understand. >By the way, if "computations control" can be considered as related to ethics, then in my book proprietary MS-DOS much more ethical than opensource Trisquel. This is ass backwards. With a proprietary system you cannot find out. Code is not available, can be obfuscated and you might be breaking the law if you try to find out how something works. With Trisquel you're welcome to browse the code, with an occasional comment or two and won't run into any legal issues.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
>By the way, if "computations control" can be considered as related to ethics, then in my book proprietary MS-DOS much more ethical than opensource Trisquel. This is bait
Re: [Trisquel-users] HTPC Controlled By Gamepad - Home/Launcher Button
Try putting this into /eetc/X11/xorg.conf (you might have to create one, sudo X -configure) Section "InputDevice" Identifier "whatever" Driver "evdev" Option "Device" "/dev/input/event10" Option "AutoServerLayout" "true" EndSection Restart X, now can xev see it? The buttons (like the guide button) might need remapping via evdev options or perhaps using xinput if they overlap with mouse or something.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems
>Trying to justify it (family starving) means trying to justify non-free, proprietary software Excuse me, but did you ever heard of so-called "situational ethics"? There aren't absolute unethical actions. Because ethics depend on context. For example, I consider meat is unethical in my current situation. But if I would need meat for my survival, then I will eat it. Even if it will be a human meat. >The risk of quitting her job of developing proprietary software might be small or big, but again nobody forced her to take the unethical job. And nobody can force anybody to take so-called "ethical job". That is her/his personal decision. And it is why pure ethics fail. Because ethics are subjective. I wish I could forbid you to eat meat, but I can't. Beside, meat is ethical in YOUR opinioun. I have only one choice. I must convince you that giving up meat will fit your egotistical interests. For example, "You know, in average vegetarians have longer lifespan than meat-eaters, blah-blah-blah". That is also true for FSF-lovers movement. If you want to change the world, then you must swallow your pride and try to convince developers of proprietary software that FLOSS more profitable for them.
[Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.
I don't have sense of control over my computer. You can say "You must use only FLOSS, only freedom-friendly hardware, etc. Then you can control your computer. " But alas, it is an overstatement. Because if I encounter a problem, then often I forced to google solution and blindly use instructions. Without proper understanding, like magic. Thus, sometimes I feel nostalgic about times then my needs and my understanding were in perfect harmony. My criterias of control: 1.I must understand how it works "under hood". My understanding must vary from very abstract concepts to detail comprehension of every "cogwheel", according to my needs. 2.If I encounter a problem, then I should be able to solve it on my own, without help of other people. In ideal, even without Internet. 3.I must have proper understanding of the solution. 4.I must figure out reasons of the problem. 5.I should be able to optimize computer according my needs. That should I do? Let's do brainstorm. 1.Development of my problem solving skills. Concept maps, inductive logic, mathematics, power search in the Internet, etc. 2.Maybe I need KISS-friendly Linux. You know, like Slackware, Crux. By the way, if "computations control" can be considered as related to ethics, then in my book proprietary MS-DOS much more ethical than opensource Trisquel. Because knowledge is power. If you have complicated open source system, then it is like "Hey dude, there is a gift for you. This is a cool spaceship, I hope you will like it very much. What? You don't know how use it? What a pity! " 3.Hmm, maybe some of LPIC-1 tutorials can help me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems
În 2013-12-19 12:36, arielxgbar...@gmail.com a scris: You can't make money just from selling free software. You can. You will sell a few copies, then free (as in money) downloads will be all over the internet. Let them be, nobody should people from sharing software and improve it. What is important in a free software commercial distribution is to build the *trust* by continuously developing and innovating that free software and by investing in its stability and security. Then users will much prefer buying copies (in binary form and along with it in full source code form) from your distribution, because you are a driving force for that free software so an meritocratic authority for its user base. The best thing to do would be to free it after a decent amount of money has been made, I consider liberation funds to be unethical. A software developer should never restrict its users, not in the beginning (until she rises the amount of money she requests) not ever. or to do free software development as a part time job. If the part time job involves proprietary software development, then it's wrong. It's wrong to be anti-social. If you are making a living from being anti-social, then you should think to change your ways or at least change your area of activity. Don't help corporations gain more power over computer users. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems
În 2013-12-22 00:07, shiret...@web.de a scris: First, I think you should better provide arguments which show that I'm wrong instead of pointing towards the rule not to talk about certain things. You are right. It might not be obvious for everybody you are not following the Trisquel Community Guidelines. I was talking about *developing* proprietary software and make a living from it. Nobody should do that. Trying to justify it (family starving) means trying to justify non-free, proprietary software which then makes this software seam less evil and its developers less anti-social. Doing this wrong (developing proprietary software) to the users and justifying it, is a common practice in the "open source" camp. This is a free software community forum of an FSF-endorsed free distribution. Please respect that and do these exercises of logic with your friends on your blog or live in your group of friends, not on this forum. The message on this forum should be clear for all its members and any newcomer: developing proprietary software is wrong and there is no excuse for it. You don't put yourself under any risk if you choose not to endorse proprietary software. In contrast, the developer of proprietary software does since he has to quit his job and find another one. I am a computer scientist and I am writing software. Nobody forces the developer to take a job which enslaves other users. No matter why she took the job, it's a mistake and she is the sole responsible for taking it, so if she has a conscience she will quit that job and work on free software. If she doesn't find free software job opportunities (FSF lists some) or doesn't do well at the interview, then she would have to learn to develop free software on a volunteer basis and try again later; meanwhile, doing something else for a living, like pizza delivery, taxi driving, etc. The risk of quitting her job of developing proprietary software might be small or big, but again nobody forced her to take the unethical job. So please, respect the guidelines and don't try to justify proprietary software (or developing proprietary software) on this forum. If you don't do it because you understand the danger, do it out of respect for GNU and Trisquel. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] HTPC Controlled By Gamepad - Home/Launcher Button
Yeah, I was thinking that there should be something that wouldn't require polling.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode
Apparently read don't like pipes. The explanation was beyond my understanding but this works var=$(command)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software compatible All-in-One
Thinkpenguin sells some AIOs guaranteed to work. There's a banner on the right hand column. -->
