Re: [Trisquel-users] Security Problem

2014-09-01 Thread jason

I can't think of a reason to encrypt the root partition.

If you expand the encryption to go beyond just ~/ then you also get things  
like encrypted swap. Sure your documents might be encrypted, but when you put  
the computer in hibernate and the contents of RAM can just be obtained  
straight out of the what's been written to disk (because the contents of RAM  
have to go somewhere when the computer goes into hibernation mode) that kinda  
defeats it. You also end up with temporary files being encrypted (which can  
also be valuable), logs (which can also be valuable), and etc. Think from the  
attacker's perspective of all that lives outside of home and what a potential  
use for it could be and you'll see my point.


So my philosophy is do the whole disk or go home.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-01 Thread jason
You should go read up on BadUSB to find some answers to those very questions.  
:)


A USB drive, for instance, will take on the ability to act as a keyboard that  
surreptitiously types malicious commands into attached computers. What might  
those commands be and how might they affect your privacy? Just let your  
imagination go for a walk...


All the more reason that all software - everywhere and in all forms - should  
be free.


Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I haven't done it. Just install like normally but choose the USB as target  
instead of HDD. If there is a swap on the local HDD you could use that unless  
there currently is a hibernation image.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Security Problem

2014-09-01 Thread nux
When you (and others) say it takes a long time, what sort of time are you  
talking about?
Is there a rough x minutes per gigabyte estimate or is it dependent upon  
file size and type as well as on hardware type (IDE vs SATA vs SSD, for  
example)?


I've never looked at encyption before. I have an SSD drive, split into 3 20GB  
partitions (for root partitions) and a 348GB SATA HD that contains the home  
partition, that's about 65% used (122GB free).


Re: [Trisquel-users] new MIPS single-board-computer

2014-09-01 Thread jabjabs
OpenCores is a really awesome project one that keeps growing in bounds all  
the time. Another one is RISC-V http://riscv.org/, these guys have actually  
made it to early manufacturing stages and have a fairly solid roadmap to  
actually getting these things produced by late 2015.





Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread blade . vp2020

Thanks
Installation has been successfully
But when I type free Tell me.
That there swap
Where it came from?
how can I disabling swap
I want to use this method to share the system
with my friends

Greetings and respect
ali abdul ghani


Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread magicbanana
The default install (no custom partitioning) comes with a swap partition.  
If you want to suspend-to-disk (hibernate), it is necessary. If you do not  
want any swap partition (RAM should then always suffice), you can boot the  
live media again, insert your USB key with the installed system and use  
GParted (present on the live media) to remove the swap partition and extend  
an adjacent partition, typically the one mounted on /home. The line in  
/etc/fstab (that of the installed system) with swap in the third column  
should then be removed.


If you want to keep the swap partition but have it disabled by default, you  
must edit that same line of /etc/fstab (with root permissions) and turn the  
fourth column, sw, into sw,noauto. Whenever you need the swap partition,  
you fire 'sudo swapon' followed by the swap partition. For instance, if it is  
/dev/sda5:

$ sudo swapon /dev/sda5
And, to turn the swap off:
$ sudo swapoff /dev/sda5

You can also read about swap files if do not want any swap partition but  
still want to swap on occasion (the file is allocate with 'fallocate' and can  
have any size you want).


Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread adamjjennings

I'm having an issue with installing. I am using a Mac Book.
I have created my USB and everything is installed successfully but when I  
reset holding down the Alt key I'm only being given the option to select my  
Mac HD and not the USB.

Could you give me an easy guide on how to fix this?




Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread jabjabs
Did you get the i386 version or the AMD64? The i386 version (32bit) will not  
boot as it does not have the EFI boot loader.


[Trisquel-users] versioning problems with apt-get build-dep sylpheed

2014-09-01 Thread raneotempo

Hi all,
  running apt-get build-dep sylpheed I see some problems on libgtk2.0-dev  
saying that libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev are not going to be installed.


Trying to apt-get install them manually I have another message saying  
libcairo2 (=1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3) but version 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3+12.04ac1 is  
going to be installed.

  Actually it's already installed.

I quite newbie in Linux programming and I don't know how to properly run  
apt-get build-dep sylpheed command.


Is there a way to override strange versioning number by ubuntu?


Thank you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] versioning problems with apt-get build-dep sylpheed

2014-09-01 Thread raneotempo
I think I've solved... by using synaptic to install libcairo2-dev, a few  
dependencies have been ported to older versions and I'm now able to instal  
build-dep for sylpheed!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ask for help: how to hide hard disk?

2014-09-01 Thread freeuniverse

Thanks Magic Banana! It worked on Trisquel 6. It's not difficult.








Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread adamjjennings

I downloaded the Trisquel 700MB CD iso image, 64 bit


[Trisquel-users] Cant install - Help

2014-09-01 Thread adamjjennings

I'm having an issue with installing. I am using a Mac Book.
I have created my USB and everything is installed successfully but when I  
reset holding down the Alt key I'm only being given the option to select my  
Mac HD and not the USB.

Could you give me an easy guide on how to fix this?

I downloaded the Trisquel 700MB CD iso image, GNOME desktop, 64 bit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Ruben's talk won't be available via livestream but instead recorded and uploaded.

2014-09-01 Thread davidvargas1

 J.B. Nicholson-Owens

 I have to agree with you, only 80 percent. I understand clearly the  
integrity of the FSF policies.


 Yet, that should NOT hinder the broadcasting of the interview

 Why?

 Regardless, the type of PROPIETARY hardware, or software used to record the  
interview.


 The recording could be extracted and re-published again, FSF owns the rights  
to it.


 That they choose not to do it, it is laziness on their behalf.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Security Problem

2014-09-01 Thread jason
I suspect others are referring to the processing of wiping the disk in  
advance. Depending on the specifics, like if it's a new drive or if the  
information's somehow already been erased, it's not really necessary to have  
the installer do that.


[Trisquel-users] Help with installing Trisquel on MacBook?

2014-09-01 Thread adamjjennings

I'm having an issue with booting the system on my Mac Book.
I have created my USB and everything is installed successfully but when I  
reset holding down the Alt key I'm only being given the option to select my  
Mac HD and not the USB.

Could you give me an easy guide on how to fix this?

I downloaded the Trisquel 700MB CD iso image, GNOME desktop, 64 bit.


[Trisquel-users] Can we please get an official Docker image for Trisquel 7?

2014-09-01 Thread tegskywalker

1.) Finish Trisquel 7 one of these days.
2.) Clone https://github.com/tianon/docker-brew-ubuntu-core
3.) Make Trisquel specific changes.
4.) Create a repo for image at http://devel.trisquel.info/gitweb/
5.) Add to https://registry.hub.docker.com/
6.) Celebrate that there is another free software option out there.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Can we please get an official Docker image for Trisquel 7?

2014-09-01 Thread tegskywalker
Oh and one other thing. You could use the tar.gz core files from  
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/trusty/release/ as a reference  
when building the Docker image. Just swap with Trisquel packages of course.  
:-)


[Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread cd1207
*TL;DR: Looking for Linux AND Linux-libre, switchable in GRUB, to work in  
Trisquel.*


Hi, so I'm transitioning to free software and I believe that using Trisquel,  
even if not in a fully-free mode, is better than using Ubuntu or any OS that  
recommends or includes non-free software by default. To me, if one is going  
to sacrifice their freedoms by using binary blobs, then they should at least  
have the ability to do it only to the extent absolutely necessary (i.e. not  
installing a proprietary OS for just one blob).


Ideology aside, the program I need on Trisquel is Linux. I wonder if it is  
possible to even take only the necessary blobs and not the whole kernel, as  
would fully conform to the previous paragraph, but for now I just need to  
know how to install Linux itself.


Don't tell me it's not possible, as I've already done it - by adding the  
Ubuntu repos and installing packages with linux in the name - but I'm not  
sure what were the minimum steps required (I need this to be portable) as I  
did a lot of probably unneccessary package-adding. As a result, GRUB is full  
of kernel options, all of them named Linux-libre, even the ones that are  
actually Linux. (I suspect a side-effect of Trisquel dev's mass  
search-and-replace)


Linux has become the default option (due to being the latest version?) and I  
don't want this. So please give me some pointers: how can one install Linux  
to a fresh Trisquel installation, *without* overridding Linux-libre, and have  
(only) these TWO options available at startup?

 Appreciate any experienced help!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread jason
Adding repositories for other distros is probably not a good idea as it can  
result in problems.


Also, what do you need the other kernel for?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help with installing Trisquel on MacBook?

2014-09-01 Thread Bader Zaidan
The Ubuntu wiki has a documentation on how to boot and install GNU/Linux
on the macbook.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryMac


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread cd1207
Oh yeah, it's definitely not a good idea, but I didn't know how else to do  
it. That's why I'm asking.


I need the Linux kernel for the same reason as Ubuntu and hundreds of other  
distributions use it: OOB functionality, of course.


Trisquel's freedom dedication is a little too much of a change at once for  
average users, and with the ability to toggle kernels, it can be a conscious  
decision seperate from the decision to take on a new OS.


As I said, I could always install another GNU/Linux distribution and it will  
all work fine - but that should not be necessary for only one program, the  
kernel. Trisquel is freedom-superior in many more ways than its free kernel,  
and I see no need to get rid of them.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help with installing Trisquel on MacBook?

2014-09-01 Thread jbar

Maybe apple computers restrict what you can boot from usb.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/28495/how-do-i-get-my-mac-to-boot-from-an-ubuntu-usb-key

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046568


Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-01 Thread chris
An installed copy of Trisquel on a flash drive under any condition (disabling  
swap, using special filesystems, including read-only) is going to be terribly  
unreliable and slow. Anybody who has done significant testing in real world  
conditions knows it just doesn't work. Once you start applying security  
updates and such and the constant removal to and from the USB port will  
result in the drive being killed off. It's one thing to plug and unplug a USB  
drive once or twice a week for years, but try doing that a few times every  
day and you won't have a functioning drive a month from now.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread jason
I need the Linux kernel for the same reason as Ubuntu and hundreds of other  
distributions use it: OOB functionality, of course.


I was actually hoping for something more specific.


[Trisquel-users] Which packages have the debug symbols for these libraries?

2014-09-01 Thread sstewartgallus00

Hello I want to debug a program that I was developing better so I ran
it and checked /proc/${PID}/maps for the libraries it was using.

So far I couldn't find any symbols or debug packages for the following
libraries (apt-cache search udev | grep dbg returns nothing):

/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1.5.2
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0.13.0
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libLLVM-3.0.so.1
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpciaccess.so.0.11.0
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtxc_dxtn_s2tc.so.0.0.0

I have found debug packages for the following but they don't actually
put a normal entry in /usr/lib/debug (not sure if that actually
matters as entries are still in /usr/lib/debug/.build-id).

libxcb-dri2-0-dbg   
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0.0.0
libxcb1-dbg 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1.1.0
libxfixes3-dbg  
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
libxcb-xfixes0-dbg  
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-xfixes.so.0.0.0
libwayland0-dbg 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwayland-client.so.0.0.0

/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwayland-server.so.0.0.0
libdrm2-dbg 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2.4.0
libdrm-intel1-dbg   
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_intel.so.1.0.0
libdrm-nouveau1a-dbg
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_nouveau.so.1.0.0



Re: [Trisquel-users] Which packages have the debug symbols for these libraries?

2014-09-01 Thread legimet . calc

I don't think all libraries have debug symbols available :(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread legimet . calc
In the future, Linux-libre will have a blobhush functionality allowing you  
to install the blobs. Figuring out how to use it will be easy, but  
Linux-libre won't suggest it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread jabjabs

I do not like the sound of this addition... :(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help with installing Trisquel on MacBook?

2014-09-01 Thread jabjabs
I have no idea about the 700MB CD image, I know the full release works fine  
on a MacBook (run one myself). Try a different image (AMD64) and see if it  
can see that instead?


As for MacBooks restricting booting, so long as it has an EFI boot loader it  
should work fine. The real difficulty comes in when try to run multiple  
partitions, that I cannot help with. I stayed away from putting Trisquel on  
my Mac for a long while because it seemed to complicated to install - that  
was until I found out that I could blow away OSX entirely via the installer.  
Happy days since then. :D


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread cd1207
I was avoiding specifics because I am afraid I'll get a specific answer. If  
you must know, in this particular case, the need for full nvidia hardware  
acceleration is the cause. But I was hoping for a solution that would also  
work for, say, a laptop where I can't install updates while installing  
trisquel, because there is no WiFi support.


Unless you just wanted to make sure it's really the kernel I needed and not  
something else because I don't know better. In which case, I would assure you  
that I am not new to gnu.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread cd1207

This sounds great.
Since the user is clearly making a conscious choice to enable the selected  
blobs, he is aware of the freedom he lacks, which means the  
don't-suggest-free-software ideal is already conveyed. So with that out of  
the way, it would be a useful and user-friendly feature to add.


Any idea when this will be implemented?


[Trisquel-users] Re : Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread magicbanana
Assuming your processor is from Intel (probably the case), it comes with a  
graphical chipset that Linux-libre can *perfectly* drive. You could somehow  
deactivate the nVidia card (e.g., physically remove it) and you may be  
surprised with the performance of the Intel graphical chipset (e.g., w.r.t.  
video decoding). Besides, you would save energy.


As for the Wifi, adapters that are compatible with Linux-libre are not that  
expensive. Here is one of my recent messages on that recurrent topic:  
https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/request-wlan-card-support#comment-55424


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread mprodrigues
Is this true? This is completely agaisnt free software philosophy, I can't  
understand why they would make such and addition.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-01 Thread jabjabs
Useful yes, user friendly is debatable on who you interpret the user to be.  
;)


Adds practicality yes, comprises a purely free system and adds restrictions  
to the system as well.


I can see why people would want it from a functionality perspective but it  
goes entire against Linux-Libre's goal.