[Trisquel-users] Re : trisquel-recommended package

2015-01-13 Thread lcerf
No, it will not. It works the other way around: if you remove package A,  
every package that depends (directly or indirectly) on A is removed as well.  
That makes sense since they cannot work without A.


For example if A is xserver-xorg and you remove it, then libreoffice  
(that depends on A) is removed as well.


Packages that came as dependencies of package A (i.e., the user did  not  
explicitly asked for them) will be removed by 'apt-get autoremove' (hence not  
automatically) if package A was uninstalled and no other explicitly installed  
package depends on A. Again, that makes sense: A almost certainly is an  
orphan dependency that is only consuming space on your root partition. If  
not, then the user should explicitly asked for its installation (e.g. through  
'apt-get install A').


For example if A is libreoffice and you remove it, then xserver-xorg (a  
dependency of A) will *not* be removed as well. Not even after 'apt-get  
autoremove' as long as at least one other graphical application (that depends  
on A) is installed.


[Trisquel-users] Re : MyTourbook on trisquel ?

2015-01-13 Thread lcerf
There is not such a package in Trisquel's repository. Ubuntu (on which  
Trisquel is based) does not have it either and neither does Debian (on which  
Ubuntu is based). In fact I doubt there exists a deb package for this  
application.


You should follow the developers' instructions:  
http://mytourbook.sourceforge.net/mytourbook/index.php/download-install#linux  
... starting from item 2! Why not from item 1? Because you should actually  
use the Java Runtime Environment that Trisquel 7 ships in the correct version  
(7). To do so, install the package named default-jre. You can do that with  
'sudo apt-get install default-jre' but I would advise you the Synaptic  
Package Manager (in the System Settings), which is a graphical interface  
to APT, because you do not seem to know much about package management yet.


Unlike your Java Runtime Environment (if you followed me advices),  
MyTourbook will not be automatically updated through APT because it was not  
installed within this package management system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-recommended package

2015-01-13 Thread onpon4
One thing to note: Aptitude works differently than apt-get when it comes to  
these packages. If you use apt-get, they're kept unless you use apt-get  
autoremove. If you use Aptitude, however, automatically installed packages  
also get removed automatically.


Also of note: merely being recommended by another installed package is  
sufficient to prevent it from getting removed either by apt-get autoremove or  
Aptitude's automatic cleanup.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2015-01-13 Thread riley

Thanks for doing this! I've added a link to this thread on the main page.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Hide all windows show the desktop by command.

2015-01-13 Thread calinou
This is offtopic, but how do you bundle blocks of code in forum posts like  
this?


[Trisquel-users] Re : What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-13 Thread calinou

Light hinting is usually the best hinting.

Make sure to avoid non-free fonts…


[Trisquel-users] Naming conventions for Abrowser, Web Browser are broken

2015-01-13 Thread amenex
While trying to find a way of using a search function within web pages, I  
found nothing at all in Add/Remove Applications relating to my originally  
installed browser package that seems to call itself Abrowser and so I  
instead installed Web Browser from within Add/Remove Applications.  That  
involved associated installations of an email reader and a file manager.


The email reader is nowhere to be found ... and the file manager is nowhere,  
also, unless they are what was originally installed with/by Trisquel.


I still haven't found any way of searching a web page except by first using  
view page source and then using _that_ find.


And my installed Abrowser is unchanged, but is nowhere to be found in  
Installed Applications ... and Web Browser does now appear in Installed  
Applications.  Does that mean that Abrowser is identical with and actually  
the same application as Web Browser ?


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-13 Thread dudu9020
I tried some fonts and different hinting settings and I'm now using DejaVu  
Mono 11pt. Perhaps I'll switch and try others as well. There are so many  
great fonts available!


And of course, I'll only use Free Fonts. :-)


[Trisquel-users] MyTourbook on trisquel ?

2015-01-13 Thread fredb30

Hi!
 I would realy like to try mytourbook as I am looking for an alternative to  
SportTracks but I cant seem to be able to see it in my repositories.

 I have Trisquel 7.0, did I miss something here ?
 I tried sudo apt-get install mytourbook, that should work right ?

Thank you



Re: [Trisquel-users] Biggest german isp ships router with free firmware??!

2015-01-13 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

There's also libreCMC https://gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html#small-distros


[Trisquel-users] WinFF: Unknown encoder 'libvo_aacenc'

2015-01-13 Thread pandyadeepp

First I searched for video converter:
$ apt-cache search video converter
tablet-encode - video converter for Nokia Internet Tablets
winff - graphical video and audio batch converter using ffmpeg or avconv

Then I installed winff by: sudo apt-get install winff After installation, I  
open WinFF and import file, Select formate and finally click on Convert:




But It opens terminal and outputs:

avconv version 9.16-6:9.16-0ubuntu0.14.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2014 the  
Libav developers

  built on Aug 10 2014 18:19:26 with gcc 4.8 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)
[flv @ 0x9aecf60] max_analyze_duration reached
Input #0, flv, from '/media/pandya/My_Disk/Music File/Mukesh/Video/Chhoti Si  
Yeh Zindagani - Raj Kapoor - Aah - Muflv':

  Metadata:
starttime   : 0
totalduration   : 211
totaldatarate   : 485
bytelength  : 12803864
canseekontime   : true
sourcedata  : B4A7DA942HH1361084133076341
purl:
pmsg:
  Duration: 00:03:31.00, start: 0.00, bitrate: N/A
Stream #0.0: Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 480x360, 361 kb/s, 25 fps, 25  
tbr, 1k tbn, 50 tbc

Stream #0.1: Audio: aac, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 127 kb/s
Unknown encoder 'libvo_aacenc'
Press Enter to Continue


So, Why This is happening? How can I solve error: Unknown encoder  
'libvo_aacenc'?
I want to convert video on GUI way. (or I've to troubleshoot via  
command-line!)


Re: [Trisquel-users] WinFF: Unknown encoder 'libvo_aacenc'

2015-01-13 Thread pandyadeepp

Also There is no Answer/Support for my earlier post!


Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-13 Thread noordinaryspider
There really is no one size fits all answer. They may not even notice the  
difference between Popcorntime and Netflix or it could have something to do  
with family dynamics or the prevailing attitudes and cultures of different  
periods of history.


I was doing very well with my family for a time, but when the Thinkpad T41 I  
put together for my father got too old and slow, he splurged on an iBad  
because he had wanted one ever since he first saw them on 2001 a Space  
Oddyssey in the movie theatres in 1968.


My mom is now running whatever her neighbour's 13 year old replaced her WinXP  
install with because he has the proper genitalia to do so and I don't.


My time is better spent alpha testing Blag and gNewSense and doing what I can  
to keep my ex husband from getting ripped off by proprietary crudware that  
preys on musicians.





Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2015-01-13 Thread gromobir

Thanks for the release. :-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-13 Thread noordinaryspider
Just a heads up that the most obvious gNewSense mirrors in English speaking  
countries are having problems that the Mexican mirror isn't. I should have  
more to say about gNewSense shortly. Blag is very user friendly, in my  
opinion as someone who has stuck to Debian based distros for a few years, and  
the missing dependencies for Icecat probably aren't worth stressing over  
since most of us are going to be using Tor Browser Bundle anyway.


Pretty eye candy! I can't reciprocate because my physical limitations affect  
my priorities and my kid's too young to be given a root password, but I sure  
would love to grab the start-up sound file off Brigantia and plop it into my  
Belenos boxes if I wasn't too lazy to figure out how to do so. ;)


[Trisquel-users] Re : Hide all windows show the desktop by command.

2015-01-13 Thread lcerf

With the HTML tag code.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Naming conventions for Abrowser, Web Browser are broken

2015-01-13 Thread lcerf
Add/Remove Applications does not have all available applications... for  
some reason! You can use the Synaptic package manager (in the System  
settings) that really lists all available packages (including abrowser).


I guess Web browser is GNOME's default browser that was previously known as  
Epiphany. It is fundamentally different from Abrowser (based on Firefox)  
because it uses Webkit, rather than Gecko, as a rendering engine.


Ctrl+F is a shortcut to search in most applications (including Web browsers  
that usually even search as you type). Abrowser's menu is hidden by default  
and you must press the Alt key to show it up. You would then find the same  
search function in Edition.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Naming conventions for Abrowser, Web Browser are broken

2015-01-13 Thread onpon4

Edit, not Edition.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

2015-01-13 Thread tomlukeywood

i dont have a ftp server but i have a webserver(hosted in the uk)
if anyone wants to download from here:

if my server crashes too much i may have to take the link down though please  
only use this if you cant get it from

the libertybsd site:
http://92.19.232.58:82/files/libertybsd_cd_install.iso


[Trisquel-users] Re : Importing external inboxes into Icedove; concatenation isn't working for me

2015-01-13 Thread lcerf
That documentation on how to migrate your data looks simple and only involves  
clicking: http://en.flossmanuals.net/thunderbird/migrating/


If you do not like GUIs, there are these instructions that look simple too:  
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-tb


Re: [Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-13 Thread taknamay
I love Fantasque Sans Mono (SIL Open Font License). It's one of the first  
things I download for a fresh install. However it's quite different in style  
from most monospace fonts, so you may differ in your opinion.


https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans

http://openfontlibrary.org/en/font/fantasque-sans-mono


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-13 Thread tomlukeywood

my problem is when i run
apt-get install mate-desktop
and restart
i get no icon next to my username???


Re: [Trisquel-users] Biggest german isp ships router with free firmware??!

2015-01-13 Thread lloyd

Librewrt would be better. ddwrt includes proprietary code.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Biggest german isp ships router with free firmware??!

2015-01-13 Thread tomlukeywood

if i got a librewrt router would it definitly
work with my isp??



Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-13 Thread tomlukeywood

most of us are going to be using Tor Browser Bundle anyway
icecat has inbuilt tor when you switch to private mode


Re: [Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-13 Thread dudu9020
OK, Droid Sans looks much better. Not perfect yet, but better. :D I don't  
like fonts where symbols like @ and $ look squashed and bold.


I tried to set the hinting in the gnome-tweak-tool to full, but that didn't  
look that good either.


I guess I have to get used to those fonts. :-) If you have another  
suggestions for terminal fonts, I'd like to hear them!


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-13 Thread Andrew Roffey
franparpe:
 Wait a second, BLAG is still alive? And it is focused on security?

Yes, there is info on their Trac website:
https://blag.fsf.org/

and more info on their mailing list:
http://blagblagblag.org/pipermail/blag-users_blagblagblag.org/20141023/53.html

plus suggestions and thoughts on their pad (warning: requires
JavaScript, although it appears to be free software):
https://pad.riseup.net/p/BLAG-Suggestions

Andrew


Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-13 Thread franparpe
I love how you take every oportunity to make fun of Windblows in the  
majority of sentences you write.


[Trisquel-users] Importing external inboxes into Icedove; concatenation isn't working for me

2015-01-13 Thread amenex
Way back in the old days, I had a *scape inbox that lost its EOF scent. I  
opened the file with a text editor and [somehow] stopped the scrolling when  
it got down to nothing but asterisks. I cut them all off, saved the file, and  
voila ... rescued that inbox. That was in *indows 3.11, I think.


At an intermediate time, when an anti-virus program ate the inbox from the  
*indows installation of *hunderbird, I was able to snatch the same inbox from  
a debian installation of Icedove and plop it into the *indows installation of  
*hunderbird without the slightest hassle or loss of data (I had been keeping  
the two inboxes synchronized by always downloading messages from first the  
one computer and then from the other, but only removing them from their  
servers with the second computer).


Fast forward to the present day. I'm importing inboxes from hither and yon  
... and I've gathered a few into one account in my Trisquel installation of  
Icedove. Icedove steadfastly refuses to open those foreign inboxes (except in  
one other account where it does so quite happily).


I've concatenated the two inboxes thusly:

 sudo mv Inbox InboxSmall
 sudo cat InboxSmall Inbox01  InboxAll
 sudo mv InboxAll Inbox

Icedove ignores all but the former contents (i.e. InboxSmall) when opening  
Inbox after restarting; it does go through some motions.


The byte count of the concatenation satisfies ordinary base-ten mathematics;  
i.e., Inbox equals the sum of InboxSmall plus Inbox01.


When I try to have Icedove open one of the peripheral inboxes, e.g. Inbox-01,  
a message briefly pops up, (loosely quoting) Opening Inbox01 failed; the  
mail server for that account responded: Mailbox does not exist, or must be  
subscribed to. Inbox-01 is a closed inbox; I'm not trying to get any more  
input into it except eventually by concatenating with other inboxes.


Gedit can open either the former Inbox or Inbox-01, except that it complains  
about some incorrect characters.


In this context, I'm using the term, scent to cover either/or in the debate  
of character vs. integer in EOF's.


Question is: Does Icedove put a secret scent at the end of its own Inbox  
files ? How can I detect that scent and remove it (presumably) from the  
intersection of InboxSmall and Inbox-01 inside InboxAll ?


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-13 Thread abhijithb21

I have Blag alongside Trisquel. You don't have much problem using it.


[Trisquel-users] Re : trisquel-recommended package

2015-01-13 Thread lcerf
As onpon4 wrote, meta-packages (such as trisquel or  
trisquel-desktop-recommended) do not install any program by themselves.  
They are just a convenient way to install a bunch of such programs listed as  
the dependencies of the meta-packages.


Removing a meta-package only has an effect if Trisquel's developers change  
its dependencies. It happened between version 6 and version 7 for instance:  
electrum was added as a dependency of the meta-package  
trisquel-recommended. After an update of the distribution, the users who  
kept the meta-package had that bitcoin client automatically installed,  
whereas those who removed the meta-packages had not.


[Trisquel-users] Hide all windows show the desktop by command.

2015-01-13 Thread pandyadeepp
We use Show Desktop Button on Gnome-panel to hide all windows  show the  
desktop as shown in below screen-shot:




Same thing via command-line. (say In shell-scripting I want to use command  
for hiding all windows  showing desktop).


Therefore, How do I do that by command?


Re: [Trisquel-users] gNewSense 4 is already (somewhat) useable!

2015-01-13 Thread davesamcdxv

About my LXDE desktop: Here's my ~/.config/lxpanel folder!

And the GTK+ theme:  
http://satya164.deviantart.com/art/Numix-GTK3-theme-360223962 (Icon theme is  
the Numix Bevel one found in the PPA)


The Openbox theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=157365

The Compton command I used: @compton -C -c -r4 -l-6 -t-4 -b -f -D30 -I0.45  
-O0.45 -i0.80 -G


Wallpaper from Mint Petra.

@islander How did you make Faenza icons look like that on an FF-based browser  
(the only time Faenza icons've looked like that for me is in KDE apps)? Or is  
that default Palemoon (which I've never tried) behaviour?


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-recommended package

2015-01-13 Thread dudu9020
They should do the same on Debian... If you install the default desktop and  
want to remove a packege like LibreOffice it will delete your whole X window  
system as a dependency...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Hide all windows show the desktop by command.

2015-01-13 Thread pandyadeepp

You can use wmctrl as follows:

wmctrl  is  a  command  that  can  be  used  to  interact with an X Window  
manager that is compatible with the EWMH/NetWM specification.  wmctrl can  
query the window manager for information, and it can request  that  certain  
window management actions be taken.


Fisrt Install wmctrl:
sudo apt-get install wmctrl

From It's manpage:

-k  ( on  |  off  )
  Turn on or off the window manager's show the desktop mode (if  
the window manager implements this feature).




So,  Run following command to show the desktop
wmctrl -k on





Re: [Trisquel-users] I did it! I finally have wireless networking working on my laptop!

2015-01-13 Thread davidvargas1

If you are The Lizard King then I'm your Master Gecko.


[Trisquel-users] Biggest german isp ships router with free firmware??!

2015-01-13 Thread shiretoko

Hi everybody!

One of the biggest german isp's is called 'Deutsche Telekom' and i'm a  
costumer of them. Normally, they sent you a router of the 'speedport series'  
when you get your internet access, and so did i.
I wanted to check out if i can install the libre router software...dd wrt(?  
Sorry, i don't recall the name in detail...) when i found that the source  
code for the firmware was already available and licensed under the gpl.
I tried to copy the link, but orweb doesn't want to...  So search for  
'telekom speedport open source'.

Sorry for the term but otherwise you won't find it.
Of course i'm suspicious, like, maybe they kept a crucial part proprietary as  
a back door...and i also don't know if you can actually install your modified  
versions without problems.

But still, i'm quite excited about that.
What do you think? Do isp's in your country the same or is it rather an  
exception?




Re: [Trisquel-users] What terminal fonts do you use?

2015-01-13 Thread jbar

I like terminus, grey text on black blackground
http://packages.trisquel.info/belenos/xfonts-terminus


Re: [Trisquel-users] Biggest german isp ships router with free firmware??!

2015-01-13 Thread maestro
I would never use the router my isp gave me.. I am suspiscius and don't trust  
isps..


The firmware of my router is also licensed under gpl :)

The best thing one can do is install ddwrt. yes