Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread franparpe
Oh my! Searx is fast, very fast. I think I'll be using it as my default  
search engine and see if the results are as good.


I've looked at preferences and they work similarly to ixquick's old days: you  
can select what search engines to use.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Mozilla - Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

2015-05-02 Thread pinmaritim

http://arstechnica.com/security/2009/12/20/how-to-get-set-with-a-secure-sertificate-for-free/
Am no expert but rather curious,the only solution is a self signed cert :

quote:
You can sign your own digital certificates, essentially acting as your own  
certificate authority, but that's a problem. Because a client and/or OS  
doesn't know that Tom the cat luckeywoodCA is a real authority, the client or  
OS has to prompt a user to accept an untrusted relationship. Depending on the  
process, the user may be able to trust a session or not, or to accept a CA's  
authority permanently.


http://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=0lang=en

i tried loggin into CAcert and emmediatly had a browser non Certified  
connection Alert Cert!


if you want to have a hosted Wordpress as exemple with OVH here with a SSL  
Cert it's 49Euros a year for just the Cert

https://www.ovh.com/fr/ssl/

Furthermore most sites if not 98% are HTTP

quote:
However, the market for SSL certificates, a kind of certificate used for  
website security, is largely held by a small number of multinational  
companies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority





Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla - Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

2015-05-02 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

cont...@gnuvideo.ro wrote:

I know about Let's Encrypt and I believe it's a great idea. But helping
people switch from HTTP to HTTPS is one thing and forcing people to
switch is another.


Censorious world governments, Comcast, ATT, and other organizations are 
forcing this switch when you consider this from the perspective of data 
integrity and authentication. Those organizations are inspecting what 
people upload and download, and/or injecting data into webpages users 
receive en route. The Mozilla FAQ[1] was quite clear about this:



[...]as long as your site is not secure, it can be used as a weapon
against your users and against other web sites. More non­secure sites
means more risk for the overall Web.


One should place blame where it belongs, not with efforts making changes 
that should have been made long ago.




[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/security/files/2015/05/HTTPS-FAQ.pdf 
specifically But there's nothing secret on my site! Why should I bother 
with encryption?.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tomlukeywood
from a user interface point of view this search engine is the best i ever  
used!

and its libre software
bye bye ixquick!

but do you need a powerful web-server to run the search engine yourself?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

tiri...@openmailbox.org wrote:

Looking at the paragraph right above that one, it says:

  It provides basic privacy by mixing your queries with searches on
other platforms without storing search data. Queries are made using a
POST request on every browser (except chrome*). Therefore they show up
in neither our logs, nor your url history.


Right, but that doesn't address anything substantively so it doesn't 
answer anything at all.


That's just a description of what any service has to do (mixing your 
queries) with an unverifiable claim of privacy (without storing search 
data). All services have to keep some track of who made which query in 
order to get them the right results back (we don't want people asking 
for cat pictures to get non-cat pictures back). Either the user's 
computer does this on their computer alone (which isn't feasible given 
the size of the DB needed to do this search in a thoroughgoing way) or 
the user submits the query to another computer (which makes it SASS with 
the privacy-busting that goes with all SASS).



As for other info, it doesn't seem to say. However, considering that it
focuses on privacy, and unlike similar services (cough cough DuckDuckGo)
it's free software, I'm going to trust it and most likely use it in
close future.


Startpage/Ixquick are not foreseeably worse metasearch engines, and 
being free software SASS doesn't mean anything for the end user because 
one doesn't do the entire job on one's own computer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] any 8400gs graphic card?

2015-05-02 Thread svhaab
I know I should get the card from thinkpenguin. But I am too cheap and  
looking for other offers. That is why I want to know if any 8400gs chipset  
card goes.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote:

Searx appreciates your concern regarding logs, so take the code and run
it yourself!


I don't see how running a metasearch engine yourself helps you keep your 
privacy so long as queries are made from your computer to the search 
engines you depend on.



Let's say I do not want to run it myself for ecological reasons. What
does searx have in its logs? Did one of you take a look at the code?
DockDuckGo, Ixquick and Startpage promise that they neither store the IP
address of their users nor their user agents. We cannot verify because
we do not have the source code... however nobody can know whether
searx.me really runs the code it pretends to run. I would feel better if
searx.me would do the same promise.


You wouldn't know what any SASS runs regardless of whether that SASS is 
released as free software. That's why SASS software freedom concerns are 
a moot point for users (but not SASS providers) and why SASS is such a 
danger to users. This is also why people like Richard Stallman are clear 
to distinguish the freedom concerns of SASS from the freedom concerns of 
programs running on one's own computer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tirifto

Looking at the paragraph right above that one, it says:

 It provides basic privacy by mixing your queries with searches on other  
platforms without storing search data. Queries are made using a POST request  
on every browser (except chrome*). Therefore they show up in neither our  
logs, nor your url history.


As for other info, it doesn't seem to say. However, considering that it  
focuses on privacy, and unlike similar services (cough cough DuckDuckGo) it's  
free software, I'm going to trust it and most likely use it in close future.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tirifto

 being free software SASS doesn't mean anything for the end user because
one doesn't do the entire job on one's own computer.

While this is true, usability-wise, I also appreciate the contribution to  
free software! :)


[Trisquel-users] Re : Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread lcerf
Searx appreciates your concern regarding logs, so take the code and run it  
yourself!


Let's say I do not want to run it myself for ecological reasons. What does  
searx have in its logs? Did one of you take a look at the code? DockDuckGo,  
Ixquick and Startpage promise that they neither store the IP address of their  
users nor their user agents. We cannot verify because we do not have the  
source code... however nobody can know whether searx.me really runs the code  
it pretends to run. I would feel better if searx.me would do the same  
promise.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tomlukeywood

heres a list of sites running the software:
https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/wiki/Searx-instances


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread shiretoko

All services have to keep some track of who made which query in
order to get them the right results back (we don't want people asking
for cat pictures to get non-cat pictures back). 

Why should this be the case?
It's perfectly possible to perform a search for some user and delete all data  
about the process afterwards.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla - Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

2015-05-02 Thread maestro

quantum - exactly! :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tomlukeywood

i compiled it sucsessfully
run this command to save you some headaces!
sudo apt-get install git build-essential libxslt-dev python-dev  
python-virtualenv python-pybabel zlib1g-dev


heres a screenshot it runs rely rely rely fast btw
but on thing to note is it only seems to work when i am connected to the  
internet

so i am a bit confused as to were the search results are coming from...:



[Trisquel-users] What it would take to increase privacy in searching -- local database searching

2015-05-02 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

shiret...@web.de wrote:

Why should this be the case?
It's perfectly possible to perform a search for some user and delete all
data about the process afterwards.


Which means while the search is going on (the queries have been issued 
to the dependent search engines but the replies have not yet been 
received) the metasearch engine keeps track of where the query came from 
so it knows where to send the aggregated response. This is in the nature 
of having another computer do one's computing instead of using one's own 
computer to do the job.


With SASS there's no way to verify whether the server deletes data about 
the search, only the service owner really knows. With metasearch engines 
there's an additional problem if users are identifiable using search 
query data or a combination of query data and hosted resource logs (for 
those search engines organizations that also own hosting resources like 
Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo each do) because it would be possible to 
correlate search queries and hits on hosted resources.


We could increase privacy with a search service where the client could 
do searches against a copy of a database hosted on the user's computer. 
Thus the user could search that database without revealing those 
searches to anyone unless the user wants to reveal what they're 
searching for. The database files could contain a wide variety of data 
on indexed websites so even if someone knows what database files someone 
has it's not clear what a user is looking for. And the database files 
should be freely shared so one doesn't have to get updates from any one 
particular place. So long as each database file is signed with a trusted 
key, one should be able to get database files from anywhere.


Research is needed to determine if most users searches could work well 
enough with a small database to make this a reasonably private search 
system that is sufficiently effective for providing good results. I 
expect new additions to search engines would take longer to get to some 
users, but that could be helped with increased database file sharing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tomlukeywood
i was trying to run searx and after installing all the dependency’s it  
wanted me to


i get these errors:
tom@trisquel7-gnu-linux:~/searx-master$ python searx/webapp.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File searx/webapp.py, line 53, in
from searx.engines import (
  File /home/tom/searx-master/searx/engines/__init__.py, line 209, in
engine = load_engine(engine_data)
  File /home/tom/searx-master/searx/engines/__init__.py, line 51, in  
load_engine

engine = load_module(engine_name + '.py')
  File /home/tom/searx-master/searx/engines/__init__.py, line 44, in  
load_module

module = load_source(modname, filepath)
  File /home/tom/searx-master/searx/engines/wikidata.py, line 3, in
from searx.poolrequests import get
  File /home/tom/searx-master/searx/poolrequests.py, line 48, in
http_adapters = cycle((HTTPAdapterWithConnParams(pool_connections=100),  
))

  File /home/tom/searx-master/searx/poolrequests.py, line 14, in __init__
self.max_retries = requests.adapters.Retry(0, read=False)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Retry'



anyone have any ideas?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread maestro
ugh what a tasteless awful radioactive green terminal color you got there ay  
ay ay!!

:P


Re: [Trisquel-users] Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread tomlukeywood

i cannot contain my computers radio active power it is too great!

i;t;s l;i;s;ti;n;i;ng ;:(;

all hail the AMT in all your ADVANCEDNESS WE HAIL YOU!
YOU ARE A GREAT INNOVATION YES YOU ARE WE LOVE YOU!



[Trisquel-users] Weather Item in Panel in Trisquel 7

2015-05-02 Thread tesseract
Hello. Is it possible to get the Weather item/indicator back in the panel in  
Trisquel 7 as it was in Trisquel 6?


[Trisquel-users] A gift for fans of free software

2015-05-02 Thread cteehayder

Hi
A Gift for fans of free software
I want to share my M.E.1 theme with all free software community especially  
in this free community ,


http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/M.E.1+theme+%28Beta%29?content=169814

have fun and be free :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Calling all Trisquel users in GNU Social

2015-05-02 Thread taknamay
Dave_Hunt, did you accidentally send me a PM? I don't understand what you are  
referring to.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Calling all Trisquel users in GNU Social

2015-05-02 Thread blade . vp2020

Dave_Hunt
now I use social.2mb.solutions but I cant find the join button located  
besides the trisquel logo.


Re: [Trisquel-users] A gift for fans of free software

2015-05-02 Thread gramex

I love how clean it looks.
I'll try installing it tomorrow.


Re: [Trisquel-users] A gift for fans of free software

2015-05-02 Thread gramex

Never mind, I'll do it today. :-)

I installed it in my ~/.themes/ directory, and was able to change the GTK  
theme, but not the window or icon themes. Is this theme supposed to include  
icons, or do I have to install them elsewhere to get the look in the preview  
image?


[Trisquel-users] Help with new install

2015-05-02 Thread dooleyn

Hi,

I've come into possession of an old Intel Pentium 4 (HT) HP desktop machine -  
a colleague at work was upgrading some of our machines and this machine was  
destined for recycling and he was happy (and generous) for me to take it  
home. The previous OS which I believe was XP was completely wiped and all  
data removed before it came into my possession. I believe too that it was  
used as a server rather than a PC. It has an 80 GB HDD and 4 GB of RAM. I've  
created boot disks for Trisquel 7.0 32-bit and 64-bit versions. I booted the  
64-bit version into a live session and what I've tested so far seems to work.  
Ethernet connection is working fine and I don't believe there is a wireless  
card - I may consider getting one separetly owing to the layout of my place.  
I have a wireless (microsoft branded) keyboard and mouse which I got from a  
friend who no longer needed them and I've connected it to my tv for a  
display. These peripherals work although I've found some keys aren't mapped  
correctly. For example, the pipe character results in the  character and I  
haven't been able to locate it. It's not mapped to the  key as you might  
suspect.


I appreciate this is an old machine. I found opening applications not slow  
but a little sluggish.

(1) Is this because it is the live cd?
(2) Does the fact the 64-bit live cd is operating that the chipset supports a  
64-bit OS? Is there a command that I can use to determine this to re-assure  
myself?
(3) Can someone provide a checklist of tests I should perform through the  
live cd to see what works and what may not? I'm not new to GNU/Linux but this  
is my first install. My other machines I purchased pre-installed with Ubuntu  
(System76, stolen!) and Trisquel (Gluglug - Libreboot X60s).
(4) What would you recommend in terms of partitioning the disk to have  
sufficient space for the OS and the applications I may install later? I  
intend this machine to only run distributions of GNU/Linux-libre. Initially,  
Trisquel but I may consider tinkering with gNewsense and Parabola at some  
point. I have an old 500 GB external HDD that I have been meaning to offload  
and I could remove its outer casing and slot into this machine as an  
additional drive. But if I'm limited to the 80 GB drive how should I  
partition it - root 20 GB, swap 5-6 GB, home 55 GB?


I am thinking of perhaps experimenting to see if I can use this machine as my  
own email server, own'cloud' server, gnu social instance so any tips/advice  
on these subjects would be appreciated. For example should one run such  
things on the same server? Can one still use the machine as normal if its  
primary purpose is that of a server? Cheers. TIA.



 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Help with new install

2015-05-02 Thread g . smyli

re (2)
I tried this from a terminal:
$ getconf LONG_BIT
64

re (4)
I'm new to Trisquel myself, I have only a / partition of 20 GB and a /home  
partition of about 108 GB plus about a 4 GB swap, about as simple as it can  
be done. I have installed apache2 web server, mariaDB database server and a  
few smaller packages and I have filled 6.5 GB on the 20 GB / partition. You  
can use your /home partition when you install another OS, just tell the  
partition manager to mount it as /home (don't format). That could save some  
room for the future.





[Trisquel-users] Re : Searx metasearch engine

2015-05-02 Thread lcerf
This is also why people like Richard Stallman are clear to distinguish the  
freedom concerns of SASS from the freedom concerns of programs running on  
one's own computer.


Stallman's definition of SaaSS excludes search engine. See  
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html :


Services such as search engines collect data from around the web and let you  
examine it. Looking through their collection of data isn't your own computing  
in the usual sense—you didn't provide that collection—so using such a  
service to search the web is not SaaSS.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Help with new install

2015-05-02 Thread lcerf
For example, the pipe character results in the  character and I haven't been  
able to locate it.


See  
https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/how-get-keys-thinkpad-t60-german-keyboard-layout#comment-60582


I found opening applications not slow but a little sluggish.

It may be because you are using a Live CD (access to CDs are slow). If you  
feel the same way after the install, you may want to try Trisquel Mini.


Does the fact the 64-bit live cd is operating that the chipset supports a  
64-bit OS?


Yes.

Can someone provide a checklist of tests I should perform through the live cd  
to see what works and what may not?


Besides graphics (3D acceleration, video decoding acceleration, etc.),  
everything should work. If you buy a Wifi card, go for the only vendors that  
guarantee Linux-libre can perfectly drive them: http://libre.thinkpenguin.com  
or http://tehnoetic.com


root 20 GB, swap 5-6 GB, home 55 GB?

20 GB for / is a lot unless you plan to install several heavy games, you use  
applications that write a lot to /tmp (Popcorn Time for instance), etc. You  
can take a look at how much space you use in the root partition of your other  
systems (and maybe double the number to feel at ease):

$ df -h

5-6 GB for a swap partition is a lot too. When the system swaps (because the  
main memory is all used), it becomes close to unusable and I doubt you will  
have the patience to run a desktop system that uses 5-6 GB of swap. That  
said, if you want to suspend your system (to save energy), then be aware that  
the whole memory that is used is dumped to the swap partition, which must  
therefore be sufficiently large.